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If this don't fire you up to see the regular season...nothing will. Whoever wrote this pile of nonsense this is a complete nincompoop. (Then again what can you expect from a pre season power rankings) :FIREdevil

[URL=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/4802386]check it out[/URL]

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[quote]There's no other way to put it: Joe Gibbs' first season back in Washington was a disaster. [/quote]
Actually there is. It would go something like this: 'There's no other way to put it: I don't know a damn thing about football. I look at a 6-10 team that was about 5 plays away from 8-8 or 9-7 and have no other choice but deem it a disaster. In fact unless a team wins the superbowl then the season is a disaster.'

[quote]But the parts are in stock for a rebound, though maybe not a playoff run.[/quote]
A rebound would almost assuredly put us in the playoffs. Again what a moron

[quote]But too many questions surround the quarterback situation to give a blessing before the season kicks off. [/quote]
Even a blind squirell finds a nut now and then and apparently this moron can read and has found out the the Skins have what we can euphamistically call a 'QB Issue'. He gets no points for regurgitating a known issue.

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I guess I think these rankings have the skins just about where they should be. Last years team had a good defense but a non-existant offense. This year they go into the season with essentailly the same defense and an offense with a shakey and unproven QB, average WRs, good RB & line. Essentially the same as last year. So until the offense proves it can do something I dont see how the skins can be ranked any higher.

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I try to not get too riled up over these silly power rankings, but I see a handful of teams ranked ahead of the Skins that have just as many questions, if not more.

The Ravens at #10 seem awfully high for a Kyle Boller led offense.

The Cardinals at #15? That's pure hype. I guess people have already forgot that Kurt Warner is their QB. If someone just breathes on this guy he coughs up the ball. They mention "if" they can protect him... isn't that a big if considering how poorly he plays with someone in his face?

The Bengals at #17 despite a very shaky preseason showing by Carson Palmer. Yet somehow they encourage fans to "overlook" this.

It just seems that with some teams they are overly optimistic, and with the Skins they are overly cautious, but I guess that's been the theme of our offseason to date.

All the more people to prove wrong I guess!

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I try to not get too riled up over these silly power rankings, but I see a handful of teams ranked ahead of the Skins that have just as many questions, if not more.

The Ravens at #10 seem awfully high for a Kyle Boller led offense.

The Cardinals at #15? That's pure hype. I guess people have already forgot that Kurt Warner is their QB. If someone just breathes on this guy he coughs up the ball. They mention "if" they can protect him... isn't that a big if considering how poorly he plays with someone in his face?

The Bengals at #17 despite a very shaky preseason showing by Carson Palmer. Yet somehow they encourage fans to "overlook" this.

It just seems that with some teams they are overly optimistic, and with the Skins they are overly cautious, but I guess that's been the theme of our offseason to date.

All the more people to prove wrong I guess![/QUOTE]

I do think the Cards rating is way too high and the Bengals seem a little too high also. The Ravens are a different story, they are a perennial playoff team and have had lots of success recently. I think if all things were the same as they are now but the skins had the recent success of the ravens they would be ranked in the top 15.

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What is the deal with everyones sudden love for Carson Palmer? I've read like 3-4 articles that say he's gonna break out this year? Even one comparing him to Troy Aikman (I think it was Chris Carter also said Campbell was the rookie QB to watch) He hasn't shown me much more then Ramsey? But my blind fandom tells me Ramsey is gonna dominate so what do I know!

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Until we snap the ball on September 11th everything is B.S.

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before i read it let me assume that the redskins are ranked somewhere from 28-32. okay i was wrong, they ranked us 26. that's not so bad, at least we're better than six other teams.

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5. Bills
10th

(+5) Hmm, in the Bills you have a team built around a turnover machine on defense (ranked No. 2 overall in 2004), excellent special teams (five kick/punt returns for TDs last year) and an offense led by a young, mobile QB (second-year J.P. Losman) surrounded by a stellar group of runners and receivers ... all set in a football-crazy city in the Northeast. Sounds a lot like last year's Steelers. If Losman is this year's Roethlisberger, watch out.

uh...stellar recievers???? moulds is solid now, hes not elite like he was, and lee evans had a pretty good year last year...but stellar?? lead by a rookie QB that no1 really knows much about??? failing to mention that they lost pat williams, their best dlineman...#5 is outrageous for the bills

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Wow I didn't see the Bills at #5, talk about hype... damn!

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[QUOTE]Actually there is. It would go something like this: 'There's no other way to put it: I don't know a damn thing about football. I look at a 6-10 team that was about 5 plays away from 8-8 or 9-7 and have no other choice but deem it a disaster.'[/QUOTE]

LOL :biggthump

Edit: Normally I pay ZERO attention to power rankins all season- however- this was so far out of touch I had to post it.

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Somebody mentioned before that we were ranked so low because we have an unproven QB. A lot of the people above us didn't make huge changes in the offseason but because of one or two rookies they drafted all of a sudden they will be great. Isn't that the TRUE definition of being unproven?

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And it's very true about the Bills. The Bills and the Redskins have strikingly similar teams. Great defenses, both young unproven QBs, elite running backs. Why are they ranked so high?

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please remember this is the Fox power rankings. This is the same media group that didn't vote Ramsey as Fan Favorite for the tough guy award 2 years ago because they liked Ray Lewis better, although redskins fans "flooded the voting polls". Fox media is shitty. So I don't care about their rankings, if anything I'm happy because I want the team to be underated, it will suprise other teams when we whoop dat ass!

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]And it's very true about the Bills. The Bills and the Redskins have strikingly similar teams. Great defenses, both young unproven QBs, elite running backs. Why are they ranked so high?[/QUOTE]
And the Ravens...

Tell me how Boller, a superstar RB, and the #6 defense in the league last year is so much better than Ramsey, a superstar RB, and the #3 defense last year.

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Ok there are some teams that I thought where to high and I also believe they put the skins a little bit low.

There is no way the chargers are #4 this is just based on LAST year and people you have to take it for what it is its just bull crap they play it safe this is the same team of people that put the chargers at #32 last year and now say they are the 4th best team based on 1 season thats FOX for you. so take it as it is.

Also the bills can't be that high with a rookie QB (and higher than Pitsburgh may I add fell to number 8 behind the Jets come on)

The Cardinal ARE WAYYYYY HIGH this is based more on the assumption they are going to take the divisions....... BRONCOS droping 12 spots to 20 based on what ......... this is all hipe and speculation I do believe the Boys and Skins needed to be at least 3 spots up


The Bottom 6 teams I do agree and the top 2 also untill they prove otherwise

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JP Freaking Losman??????!?!?!?!?!!? I am not saying this kid is not going to be good but he has thrown exactly 5 passes in the NFL. 5 PASSES! How can any team witha guy that inexperienced be ranked 5th. That is just silly.

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]Ok there are some teams that I thought where to high and I also believe they put the skins a little bit low.

There is no way the chargers are #4 this is just based on LAST year and people you have to take it for what it is its just bull crap they play it safe this is the same team of people that put the chargers at #32 last year and now say they are the 4th best team based on 1 season thats FOX for you. so take it as it is.

Also the bills can't be that high with a rookie QB (and higher than Pitsburgh may I add fell to number 8 behind the Jets come on)

The Cardinal ARE WAYYYYY HIGH this is based more on the assumption they are going to take the divisions....... BRONCOS droping 12 spots to 20 based on what ......... this is all hipe and speculation I do believe the Boys and Skins needed to be at least 3 spots up


The Bottom 6 teams I do agree and the top 2 also untill they prove otherwise[/QUOTE]


There is no doubt two teams are grossly overated one is the cardinals, and 2 is the bills. I know the cards have a lot of potential but this is hard to swallow. The Bills have losman at Q...this alone should downgrade them...he is a mystery. I feel the redskins and cowboys are fairly placed in [i]preseason power rankings[/i] because their respective offenses are just unproven. The NFC east cannot be dominant on defense alone!!

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After watching the new Gibbs, Williams, and Arrington videos last night and hearing more of the usual crap from the media, I have a feeling I will be using the phrase:

"It's Joe Gibbs, stupid"

fairly often as a reply to the pre-season doubters.

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The more we are overlooked, the better. Said it before.

These things are a joke, of course. But everyone is really on the cards jock this year, and the BIlls as well. Well see...

Thank god we actually get to PLAY the games! ;)

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Ok I will admit that the skins and the coaching(that includes Gibbs but not WIlliams) looked very shaky at the beginingof the year. The play calling, use of time outs, clock maniagement etc... Gibbs start to show all the signs in the last 6 to 7 games he was adjusting to the NFL. Gibbs is Gibbs and I think everyone is stuck on their first half of the season because of all the hype of Gibbs returning and they have just forgotten who they are talking about. Gibbs is going to be the one with a chip on his shoulder this year and I like that. One other thing is why don't people say the game has passed by Parcells he went from the play off to 6 & 10. With two years back in coaching he is regressing.

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[QUOTE=firstdown]Ok I will admit that the skins and the coaching(that includes Gibbs but not WIlliams) looked very shaky at the beginingof the year. The play calling, use of time outs, clock maniagement etc... Gibbs start to show all the signs in the last 6 to 7 games he was adjusting to the NFL. Gibbs is Gibbs and I think everyone is stuck on their first half of the season because of all the hype of Gibbs returning and they have just forgotten who they are talking about. Gibbs is going to be the one with a chip on his shoulder this year and I like that. One other thing is why don't people say the game has passed by Parcells he went from the play off to 6 & 10. With two years back in coaching he is regressing.[/QUOTE]
Good point. By the time the coaching staff was adjusting to the nuances of today's NFL, we were all but eliminated - bue not only to those adjustments, but a good deal of poor play. There was a sea change in the team, but nobody pays attention to how the losers finish.

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1. Pats
2. Eagles
3. Steelers
4. Chargers
5. Falcons
6. Panthers
7. Jets
8. Vikings
9. Chiefs
10. Broncos
12. Bills
13. Seahawks
14. Jags
15. rams
16. bengals
(i refuse to predict the saints or raiders, neither one has a defense (these two might be fighting for who gets the 31st best defense this year) but they have the POTENTIAL on offense to outscore some people... sometimes).

22. cardinals
23. packers
24. texans
25. lions
26. Bucs
27. Titans
28. Giants
29. Bears
30. Dolphins
31. 49ers
32. Browns

I put twenty seconds of thought into this, but i like it better... I think the chiefs and panthers will have much better records... it'd be unlikely the panthers get rocked by injuries again, and the chiefs actually got at least a few talented defensive players now... remember in 03 they went 13-0 and the panthers went 9-0... I think they're over their slumps for now.

I agree with the last six, i'd put the bucs below us though... they got an RB, but its still an aging defense and a an O lacking any real talent.

I think the lion are a bit high too, the only real strength they have is WR, maybe DL... they have to prove it first, just like the cards.

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in my personal power rankings, the Redskins are ranked numero uno. Everyone else is ranked between 2-32. I'll show you a preview of who earns #30, 31, and 32.

30. Gints - The Gints are, how should i put this, bad. 'Nuff said.

31. Egirls- The Egirls have certainly fought their share of bad news this offseason. What makes my power rankings different from others is the fact that the Egirls aren't gonna have a leg to stand on. We all know how T.O. feels about the organization and their franchise quarterback, Donovan McTurtle. They will finish 3rd in the NFC East this year.

32. Cowpokes - Coming in last in my world popular power rankings are the Cowpukes. Everyone thinks that these horse ridin' homo's are worthy of a playoff berth because of their offseason moves. I for one am not falling for it. This team will be lucky if they manage to win a single game in 2005. Why? because of Drew "The Statue" Bledsoe. This guy moves like he has cinderblocks tied to his feet. Washington, Philadelphia, and New York are gonna have field days sacking this guy. And their porous defense isn't gonna have any help from last year. They couldn't defend the pass if it him them in the face. And the run defense, it looks like they want to give running backs craters to run through.

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]please remember this is the Fox power rankings. This is the same media group that didn't vote Ramsey as Fan Favorite for the tough guy award 2 years ago because they liked Ray Lewis better, although redskins fans "flooded the voting polls". Fox media is shitty. So I don't care about their rankings, if anything I'm happy because I want the team to be underated, it will suprise other teams when we whoop dat ass![/QUOTE]
Exactly. Fox is if definition of a "controlled" medium. Gosh...I wonder who controlls them...?

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There has been some discussions among the moderators about resurrecting our own award-winning Power Poll™ for this season. We should be releasing ours before the first game. I hope you don't rip us this badly ;).

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Honestly, I'm feeling that the Vikes might be a surprise to actually take the Super Bowl this year. I think the Patriots will be good enough to make the playoffs and that Peyton will finally get the monkey off his back (after losing the regular season games to them).

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no one likes us?:(

he kicked the packers in the pack

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]There has been some discussions among the moderators about resurrecting our own award-winning Power Poll™ for this season. We should be releasing ours before the first game. I hope you don't rip us this badly ;).[/QUOTE]

Damn right our poll is trademarked!

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WPather Power Poll? I love alliteration.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Damn right our poll is trademarked![/QUOTE]
And award-winning!

(Honorable Mention, Best Power Rankings from a Redskins-centric website with "warpath" in the URL, 2003)

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Bills at 5? Cardinals? Bengals? Ravens? Although I have been buying into the hype that is the Ravens, common. Boller has alot to show. Its preseason, I still dont care. Do I think we should be a little hihger, yes. But who really cares. I'm just ready to prove the world wrong.

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Power rankings have never been kind to us. It still seems like everyone thinks our defense has suddenly fallen from the ranks of the elite. Saying it "should remain tough to penetrate" is an understatement.

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]And the Ravens...

Tell me how Boller, a superstar RB, and the #6 defense in the league last year is so much better than Ramsey, a superstar RB, and the #3 defense last year.[/QUOTE] You can also throw in the steelers. Our D's are almost mirror images of each other. We could also have a better running game this year and I dont know how much better big ben is than ramsey. He only averaged 180 some pass yds per game last yr and if their running game doesnt stay as good as it was, roethlisberger's weaknesses will show.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Honestly, I'm feeling that the Vikes might be a surprise to actually take the Super Bowl this year. I think the Patriots will be good enough to make the playoffs and that Peyton will finally get the monkey off his back (after losing the regular season games to them).[/QUOTE]


I don't know about that one... They'll get to the playoffs I'll give u that. I think patriots will fall heavy from the football heaven and back into reality, they just lost to many key people. The skins to me even as a fan are an enigma cause this season trully depends on the success of Patrick and how he performs. The defense will hold teams to low scores he just has to be smart with the ball and not throw pick ala steelers last year. rely on the running game

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I dont understand why a few of you have such a problem with the Cards @ 15

A few questions...outside the Raiders, who has a better trio of WR's than the Cards?

Warner, if healthy, will benefit greatly from the Cards WR's...as will rookie JJ Arrington who should have a lot of space to run through

Bertrand Berry had 14 sacks last year..the Cards also acquired Chike Okeafor who's had 16.5 sacks the last 2 years along with Darnell Dockett who reminds me of a young LaRoi Glover

A pass rush hides alot of deficiencies

They have Rolle and Tate @ CB-- guys who will get beat from time to time but will also make plays....Adrian Wilson @ S along with a young, fast group @ LB

The Cards will have a better record than the Jints, Cowboys and Redskins and will make it to at least the divisional round of the playoffs and quite possibly to the NFC Championship game @ Philly

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[QUOTE=la73hof]I dont understand why a few of you have such a problem with the Cards @ 15

A few questions...outside the Raiders, who has a better trio of WR's than the Cards?

Warner, if healthy, will benefit greatly from the Cards WR's...as will rookie JJ Arrington who should have a lot of space to run through

Bertrand Berry had 14 sacks last year..the Cards also acquired Chike Okeafor who's had 16.5 sacks the last 2 years along with Darnell Dockett who reminds me of a young LaRoi Glover

A pass rush hides alot of deficiencies

They have Rolle and Tate @ CB-- guys who will get beat from time to time but will also make plays....Adrian Wilson @ S along with a young, fast group @ LB

The Cards will have a better record than the Jints, Cowboys and Redskins and will make it to at least the divisional round of the playoffs and quite possibly to the NFC Championship game @ Philly[/QUOTE]

I disagree. I dont know why everyone is so in love with Kurt Warner (not you specifically). I just feel like he hasent done anything substantial in so long; and while I think the guy was a great story a while back, he's just not good anymore.

JJ Arrington is someone who I think can find a good spot in the league, but he's a rookie; and he is not running behind a very good offensive line. Even with those recivers last season, they were only ranked a couple spots higher than we were offensivley. They are just in the middle of the league defensivley. In addition, they were the only team the freaking 49ers beat last year. I know this is a parody league, but I just dont think the addition of Warner and a few rookies are going to make a difference overnight. Thats not to say I think they will be a bad team, because if any team sleeps on them, it will mean trouble. But I dont think this team is anywhere near NFC Championship Material. :twocents:

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The Cards have just as many question marks as anyone else right now, yet they are everyone's 'sexy' preseason pick.

I'm sorry but I just can't get hyped up over a Kurt Warner led team. Unless they have the great wall of china in front of him, he's going to turn the ball over, a lot.

They have some nice WRs, I'll definitely give them that.

I like Denny Green, but I just don't see them better than 17 other teams in this league right now.

They're all hype right now.

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711]I disagree. I dont know why everyone is so in love with Kurt Warner (not you specifically). I just feel like he hasent done anything substantial in so long; and while I think the guy was a great story a while back, he's just not good anymore.

JJ Arrington is someone who I think can find a good spot in the league, but he's a rookie; and he is not running behind a very good offensive line. Even with those recivers last season, they were only ranked a couple spots higher than we were offensivley. They are just in the middle of the league defensivley. In addition, they were the only team the freaking 49ers beat last year. [B]I know this is a parody league[/B], but I just dont think the addition of Warner and a few rookies are going to make a difference overnight. Thats not to say I think they will be a bad team, because if any team sleeps on them, it will mean trouble. But I dont think this team is anywhere near NFC Championship Material. :twocents:[/QUOTE]
It's actually a "parity league". Although, come to think of it, you may be right...

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]Actually there is. It would go something like this: 'There's no other way to put it: I don't know a damn thing about football. I look at a 6-10 team that was about 5 plays away from 8-8 or 9-7 and have no other choice but deem it a disaster. In fact unless a team wins the superbowl then the season is a disaster.'


A rebound would almost assuredly put us in the playoffs. Again what a moron


Even a blind squirell finds a nut now and then and apparently this moron can read and has found out the the Skins have what we can euphamistically call a 'QB Issue'. He gets no points for regurgitating a known issue.[/QUOTE]

To be honest with you... Gibbs' year was a disaster, with the exception of hiring a great defensive coordinator. The offense, under his watch, was horrible.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Redskins were still a year away from the playoffs. They're definitely not a lock.

Regardless of what the squirrel read, the Redskins do have a QB issue if Gibbs isn't confident in Ramsey... and it's pretty evident he isn't.

If I had to rank the Redskins myself this year... I don't think they'd break the top 20. You might disagree with the order of some of the teams ahead of them... the Vikes a little low... the Cards a little high... but this is not a fact-based ranking. It can't make everyone happy. If you want happy, make your own list.