Do you trust Gibbs?
 

Here's a poll to bring back in about 6 months for review.

Simple question, do you trust the man?

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Hail Yeah

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Yes.

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As a fan I do but if I'm a player I'm not so sure I would.

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"In Gibbs I Trust" when it comes down to football.

He sees all, he knows all when it comes down to this team. If he benched Portis for no reason "WE" see I would still trust his intentions and ability to win.

He's the Golden Coach with the Golden Touch.

period
peace
mike

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yes, zir!!!

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Simple question - not a simple answer.

I trust Gibbs to make the decisions that he feels are best to elevate this franchise to its former glory. Therefore, I vote yes.

However, my fear is that there is now an element of distrust on the team. Every member of that starting offense was told that the franchise had faith in Patrick Ramsey - and the history of faith in a starting quarterback lasts longer than 19 minutes (see Brunell, Mark - 2004). Those players who made a bond with Ramsey based on the stated faith in Ramsey have reason to question the things that come out of their coach's mouth now.

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I voted yes he did say Ramsey was the starter and he did start.

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i agree with brudlee, but i'm the stupid fan and joe gibbs is the hall of famer. that's why i have to give my faith to him, so i can hope he brings my team to the top.

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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!

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can we start another poll as well? "Did you trust Joe Gibbs last season?"

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Here's my short-term reason: we really don't have a good QB. We're gonna win with D and the run, so turnovers and 3rd down efficiency are what matter. In that--going by preseason and yesterday, not by 2004--Brunnell appears to have the edge. Gibbs sees the QBs everyday, so I'll trust him on this.

Long-term reason: he switched QBs a lot before, and won. He feels more comfortable with Brunnell, and his gut-feelings about QBs have been reliable in the past.

ABout all this "Gibbs lied" stuff: He never said Ramsey is my starter, whatever he does out on the field. He also said: committ TOs and you wont play. He gave Ramsey the vast majority of play with the first-stringers, and the majority of snaps in practice. Then Ramsey did indeed start the first game, despite having been outplayed by Brunnell in preseason. Then he comes out and throws an INT and fumbles twice.

Ramsey didn't step up and remove the doubts. Yeah, I know, the pressure was on him, peolple lacked condfidence in him, etc. BUt this is the NFL. You have to be able to handle just this sort of pressure. So I trust GIbbs even in the face of this quick switch.

The timing of the switch was awkward, but after wrestling with it and consulting his coaches, he felt that it was right. It was a tough decision, and it may fail. He stepped up and did what he thought would be best for the team, and admitted in wouldn't be popular. It may be his downfall. But taking this sort of risk is what leadership is about. It's not a popularity contest.

I trust Gibbs.

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I voted no, I don't believe he honored his word in giving [what everyone knew he said] Ramsey the starters job, I believe he paid lip service to him all the while looking for any excuse to get the teachers pet back on the field, if Brunell was doing something spectacular last year, or this, it would be another story, but he hasen't, what was so great about his preseason? Everyone looks at it being great, comparitivly to what he did last year, yes, which was nothing.

Did Gibbs make Ramsey his starter? Yes. Did he back him like other QB's he's had? Absolutly not! Gibbs himself has stated in the past that perhaps his loyalty to his starters may be a little extreme, well not in Patricks case, which tells me he really in his heart did not keep his word, all he did is pay lip service to buy Brunell some time and let the memory of one of the worst QB performances and rating's through the first 9 games in NFL history soften a bit to get his boy back on the field and justify a 42 million dollar blunder which is his fault, and his fault alone!

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I voted yes. But its by far the most laxadazical yes I could have given. I'm saying yes purley based on what he did in the past, but his time with that is running out really, really quick with me.

He did say Ramsey was going to be the guy, and lied. So I dont know.

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trust him in what way? trust he loves the team? trust he thinks he's doing the right thing? trust him to win it all this year?

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Offiss, Coach gibbs past doesn't in any way suggest he's that kind of man.

I honestly believe that we are not seeing what the caoching staff are seeing. There is something that will come to light after Ramsey has left.

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Brudlee,
I would suggest that football has always been based on performance and not promises. Your boss for instanced propmised you a job but if you were dropping stuff all the time, could not focus on the task at hand or get the project any further, let alone you bumped you head. He would set you down, get the next guy to get the job done for the team.

I say it makes the players step it up and fight for their job and not think about what was promised.

Plus I don't think anyone here can quote the Coach saying "I Promise P. Ramsey will be the starter"

"He's our starter" Yes
"He's our guy" Yes

peace to ya bro
mike

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Plus I said Joe Crisp was the coolest here but I would start MattyK

lol

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]Simple question - not a simple answer.

I trust Gibbs to make the decisions that he feels are best to elevate this franchise to its former glory. Therefore, I vote yes.

However, my fear is that there is now an element of distrust on the team. Every member of that starting offense was told that the franchise had faith in Patrick Ramsey - and the history of faith in a starting quarterback lasts longer than 19 minutes (see Brunell, Mark - 2004). Those players who made a bond with Ramsey based on the stated faith in Ramsey have reason to question the things that come out of their coach's mouth now.[/QUOTE]

I'm going throw out this possibility, as far-fetched as some may believe it to be. What if the players really don't have that much faith in Ramsey? What if some of the veterans (let's say Springs and Patten for the sake of argument) went to Gibbs in recent weeks and said "Coach, I know you declared Ram the starter, but we're not so sure about that. We don't feel he's ready yet?"

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I am also tired of this fumbled twice nonesense, he didn't turn the ball over on one of those, shall we count the INT's Brunell would have had last year, and to come, when they go throw a defenders hands? Portis had a fumble as well should we bench him? Ramsey had 1 bad throw, the 1 fumble we did lose he has hammered in the throat like he was a member of the WWF, after throwing a TD I might add, which what else is new a ref who can't see our WR's getting raped downfield see's something no one else see's and negates a TD.

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Does a bear shit in the woods?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]I'm going throw out this possibility, as far-fetched as some may believe it to be. What if the players really don't have that much faith in Ramsey? What if some of the veterans (let's say Springs and Patten for the sake of argument) went to Gibbs in recent weeks and said "Coach, I know you declared Ram the starter, but we're not so sure about that. We don't feel he's ready yet?"[/QUOTE]


What if they went to Gibbs and said we don't think your ready yet coach?

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat]Offiss, Coach gibbs past doesn't in any way suggest he's that kind of man.

I honestly believe that we are not seeing what the caoching staff are seeing. There is something that will come to light after Ramsey has left.[/QUOTE]


The past is the past.

I agree on the second part, and it may very well be Gibbs has lost it.

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[QUOTE=offiss]What if they went to Gibbs and said we don't think your ready yet coach?[/QUOTE]

That is the most stupidest statement I've ever read.

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I think we need to use [color=darkorange][b]orange[/b][/color] for [color=darkorange][b]sarcastic[/b][/color] or [color=darkorange][b]facetious[/b][/color] comments.

Just to avoid misunderstandings.

Oh, and [color=sienna][b]brown[/b][/color] for stupid comments.

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If this ship sinks with Coach Gibbs at the helm then I'm going down with it every time till the day I die! The man earned that kind of respect from me and nothing can ever take it away. This little episode is just part of the intrigue of watching him work this team back to greatness. He works so hard it's silly. That's all that matters. Joe Gibbs best is got to be better than most of the rest. I can't wait to see what happens this year. We have so much potential. Granted that the QB situation is a vital piece to the puzzle, but everything else is pretty darn good so far isn't it?

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat]I think we need to use [color=darkorange][b]orange[/b][/color] for [color=darkorange][b]sarcastic[/b][/color] or [color=darkorange][b]facetious[/b][/color] comments.

Just to avoid misunderstandings.

Oh, and [color=sienna][b]brown[/b][/color] for stupid comments.[/QUOTE]


It seems I have to learn how to do that. :laughing-

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Without a doubt yes.

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[QUOTE=JWsleep]Here's my short-term reason: we really don't have a good QB. We're gonna win with D and the run, so turnovers and 3rd down efficiency are what matter. [/QUOTE]

JW has given an absolute truth. [color=darkred][b]We really DON'T have a very good QB ready to play right now.[/b][/color] BUT, does anyone even remember who was playing QB for Baltimore when they won the Super Bowl...I can't. But I remember they had a stud defense and a running back named Jamal Lewis. Their QB just managed the game. It can be done and I'm trusting Gibbs to see what the rest of us can't.

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[QUOTE=offiss]I voted no, I don't believe he honored his word in giving [what everyone knew he said] Ramsey the starters job[/QUOTE]
You are correct
But he owes it to the fans, management and the players to start he QB that gives them the best chance to win.

Gibbs has been making mistakes handling players, but i trust him to do the best for the team no matter how bad it makes him look.

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I trust Joe Gibbs fully!

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I am working under the impression that Gibbs knows that the offense isn't producing enough to win consistently and QB is the reason. He didn't say that Brunell is the answer yesterday, he said he is looking for someone to step up and become the QB of the Redskins and lead them.

He has zero confidence in Ramsey and let's take emotion out of it and look at facts, Ramsey has done nothing to instill that confidence. He started and lost in 3 games last year that exceptional QB play would have led to victory (Pittsburgh, Philly, Dallas) which would have put us inthe playoffs. He was 2 TD-4 INT in the pre-season, he fumbled twice and threw an INT on the opening series in the opener. That's not going to cut it for an NFL QB. If it were Boller (for example) doing that we all would be saying how much he sucked and laughing at the Ravens.. He had his chances, crapped the bed last preseason and didn't win the job, didn't excel in the regular season when he got a chance and didn't shine in the preseason or the opener. I don't know why any of us are suprised or offended that Gibbs made an obvious choice.

So, yes, I trust him.

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[QUOTE=Paintrain]
He has zero confidence in Ramsey and let's take emotion out of it and look at facts, Ramsey has done nothing to instill that confidence. He started and lost in 3 games last year that exceptional QB play would have led to victory (Pittsburgh, Philly, Dallas) which would have put us inthe playoffs. He was 2 TD-4 INT in the pre-season, he fumbled twice and threw an INT on the opening series in the opener. That's not going to cut it for an NFL QB. If it were Boller (for example) doing that we all would be saying how much he sucked and laughing at the Ravens.. He had his chances, crapped the bed last preseason and didn't win the job, didn't excel in the regular season when he got a chance and didn't shine in the preseason or the opener. I don't know why any of us are suprised or offended that Gibbs made an obvious choice. [/QUOTE]

we're surprised because Brunell had more chances, "won" the preseason, was the worst QB in the NFL last year, and did worse than Ramsey in the same regular season offense. three drives into the regular season isn't enough time to even begin to shine.

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Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes...How many times do I need to repeat it?!

Gibbs will get it done.

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YES, Joe has the team's best interest at heart. Come on, this guy ain't Bill Parcells or Jerry Jones........Gibbs doesn't have an ego, he loves the Redskins and wants them to do well, that's why he came back from retirement. He didn't have to....he already has his Super Bowl rings and his HALL OF FAME bust in Canton..........

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If you look at Gibbs's coaching career.
He always sparks competition between QB's as his strategy to make them perform better.

Look at Mark Rypien

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[QUOTE=heybigstar]If you look at Gibbs's coaching career.
He always sparks competition between QB's as his strategy to make them perform better.

Look at Mark Rypien[/QUOTE]
he didnt put him through what he put ramsey through
and yes i do trust him...just not with brunell

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[size=7]NO[/size]

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I think it depends on what you are talking about. I think Gibbs is a great man who has done wonders for our franchise. Can anyone imagine what the Redskins would be like without the Joe Gibbs I years? We'd be a speck, just another team (and a bad one at that).

However, I'm not going to swear a blind oath of unquestioning loyalty to anyone - including Gibbs. If I think his decision to put Brunell in is a boneheaded one, I'm sure as hell going to say it.

So....I think he's making a bonehead decision, but I trust him otherwise.

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Yes, for the simple fact that i trust his decisions are made for the team's sake. He may make mistakes, but he's not doing them because of ego or to save face. His decisions are rooted in winning and that's what I'll stick by.