New Bandwagon - Start Campbell?
 

Seeing as how we're all very emotional here and jumping/constructing various bandwagons all heading in different directions, I just thought I'd stir the pot a little...and mix some metaphors.

Who is for starting Jason Campbell as soon as possible?

So as not to wimp out on my own question, I am for starting Campbell. I think Ramsey is done for any way you look at it. Even if Gibbs started him again, his confidence is shattered and he no longer wants to be here. We can argue all we want about Brunell, but does anyone really truly believe he's the "quarterback of the future"? He's what, 35, 36? He's a band-aid, and a kind of soiled, leaky band-aid at that.

Call me crazy, but I'm for putting Campbell in as soon as possible. I say since there's no real winning alternative right now, we might as well see what he can do. Maybe he's the next Roethlisberger waiting in the wings, maybe he's a waste of a draft pick. Either way, there's no sense in wasting time finding out. Start the kid and see how he does - he can move well and he had a great career at Auburn, let's see what he can do.

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I'll be the first guy on this bandwagon when he can handle the cart.

He's the future in my opinion but needs to slow cook like good BBQ.
Think "Steve Young"

peace

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[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]
He's the future in my opinion but needs to slow cook like good BBQ.
Think "Steve Young"
[/QUOTE]

No "learn by doing" philosophy?

I'm inclined to just throw him in there and see what happens. Can it get worse than it is? (No, the sky isn't falling after 1 game...I exaggerate)

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Definitely no.

If Ramsey isn't ready, how can we say Campbell is?

If Gibbs wants efficiency and turnover free play from his QB, a rookie QB is not the way to go.

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i would like to see campbell play
not next week but after the bye week i wouldnt mind seeing him in there
he couldnt be much worse than brunell

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[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan]I'll be the first guy on this bandwagon when he can handle the cart.

He's the future in my opinion but needs to slow cook like good BBQ.
Think "Steve Young"

peace[/QUOTE]


Gibbs should read your post SBF and apply it to Ramsey.

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we should have put Campbell in more preseason games. apparently those can take you from worst ranked QB in the NFL to your team's best hope in just four meaningless games.

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[QUOTE=offiss]Gibbs should read your post SBF and apply it to Ramsey.[/QUOTE]

P. Ram had [4] FOUR years.
That makes BBQ...Jerky!


lol!!!
:lol:

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Im still trying to figure out how my "Doomsday Bandwagon" got locked, but this one cuts it with the Joe Gibbs Kool Aid Crowd. Hmmmmmm.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]
If Gibbs wants efficiency and turnover free play from his QB, a rookie QB is not the way to go.[/QUOTE]

Clearly that's not the case for all rookie QBs. Roethlisberger had a 98.1 passer rating his rookie year, 17 TDs, 11 INTs, only 2 fumbles and a 66.4% completion percentage, and the minor detail of being undefeated until the AFC championship game. I'd call that damn efficient and mistake free.

Now, granted, Roethlisberger is the exception, not the rule. I still don't see it being much worse than it is.

I didn't make it to any of the preseason games, but can anyone comment on Campbell's ability? I remember him well from college, but he seemed to have incredibly limited play time this preseason.

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brunell is strong enough to push the cart we call the redskins. campbell isn't strong enough to push the cart yet.

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[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]Im still trying to figure out how my "Doomsday Bandwagon" got locked, but this one cuts it with the Joe Gibbs Kool Aid Crowd. Hmmmmmm.[/QUOTE]

What do you mean the Joe Gibbs Kool Aid Crowd? This thread is asking is now the time to just see what Jason Campbell can do. Yours was basically saying everything sucks, who wants to ride off a cliff with me.

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[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]Im still trying to figure out how my "Doomsday Bandwagon" got locked, but this one cuts it with the Joe Gibbs Kool Aid Crowd. Hmmmmmm.[/QUOTE]


This ain't Jonestown, and you ain't reverend Jim.....................what the hell, maybe you are!!!!!!!!!!

Play BRUNELL

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If we want to be the Bears, then start Campbell, otherwise Brunell is a much better choice right now. Who knows, I don't wish anything bad on Brunell, but what happens the next time he gets hit and has to come out? Who goes in, Ramsey or Campbell? Wouldn't it be interesting if Brunell got hurt and Ramsey lead a great comeback error free!

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This shit is getting ridiculous. Everyone, with the exception of a few, have written this team off due to the QB change. With a defense as good as this one, anything is possible here people. Don't give up hope!!! I don't agree with the change either, but I do know that Gibbs knows football and the team he is coaching a hell of alot better than any of us.

Lets hope like hell he is right on this and stand behind it 100%. If it doesn't work out over the long term, then we can question the judgement of the king. But until then, all these threads about starting Campbell and Ramsey getting the shaft should come to an end until he has actually killed the teams chances. And to the best of my knowledge, that hasn't happened yet...even with a loss Monday Night in Dallas, it wouldn't be a disaster.

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[QUOTE=mheisig]Clearly that's not the case for all rookie QBs. Roethlisberger had a 98.1 passer rating his rookie year, 17 TDs, 11 INTs, only 2 fumbles and a 66.4% completion percentage, and the minor detail of being undefeated until the AFC championship game. I'd call that damn efficient and mistake free.

Now, granted, Roethlisberger is the exception, not the rule. I still don't see it being much worse than it is.

I didn't make it to any of the preseason games, but can anyone comment on Campbell's ability? I remember him well from college, but he seemed to have incredibly limited play time this preseason.[/QUOTE]The only game I can remember was the last preseason and he threw several int's but I think he played fairly well in the first two. I think if Brunell does not put us in the win colum after about five games I'd say get Campbell in.

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I totally Agree!! as do the twenty or so guys that watch the redskins games at spectators sports bar in Kent Wa, all that came out of the mouth of one of the guys last sunday was Jason Campbell!!! Let the kid do what he was drafted to do we all know Ramsey cant get it done!!! and as for Brunell if he gets racked just once he,s done. so i will repeat!! in the words of my fellow redskin Brian!!( JASON CAMPBELL!!!):dallas:

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Absolutely not......for all of the reasons I said we shouldn't have drafted him to begin with........he just isn't capable of grasping an NFL offense (yet / maybe ever). Count me in as one person who will never be on this bandwagon (and yes, I still hope I'm wrong about him).

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[QUOTE=jbcjr14]This shit is getting ridiculous. Everyone, with the exception of a few, have written this team off due to the QB change. With a defense as good as this one, anything is possible here people. Don't give up hope!!! I don't agree with the change either, but I do know that Gibbs knows football and the team he is coaching a hell of alot better than any of us.[/QUOTE]

That's what I don't get either. I mean it's one thing to say you disagree with the decision to bench Ramsey. That he deserves to stay on as the starter. But I don't really follow the logic of Gibbs is a backstabbing liar and now the season is over and now there is no way the Redskins can be any good. They just suck. End of story.

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Put the rookie in! J. Campbell would do no worse than Brunell. I'm ordering my No. 17 jersey this week.

As George Allen said, "The future is now!"

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Been on this bandwagon since his name was called in the draft.

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I want the best QB to start. At the moment that's Brunell, soon it'll be Campbell. Personally I'd love to see Campbell start.

This is one of the many reasons I'm not a HC, that and I make rookies cry.

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I don't care who starts, I just wanna win.

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[QUOTE=jbcjr14]I don't care who starts, I just wanna win.[/QUOTE]


I think thats the best statement made al day

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[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]Im still trying to figure out how my "Doomsday Bandwagon" got locked, but this one cuts it with the Joe Gibbs Kool Aid Crowd. Hmmmmmm.[/QUOTE]

cause yours was a total troll.

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[QUOTE=mheisig]Clearly that's not the case for all rookie QBs. Roethlisberger had a 98.1 passer rating his rookie year, 17 TDs, 11 INTs, only 2 fumbles and a 66.4% completion percentage, and the minor detail of being undefeated until the AFC championship game. I'd call that damn efficient and mistake free.

Now, granted, Roethlisberger is the exception, not the rule. I still don't see it being much worse than it is.

I didn't make it to any of the preseason games, but can anyone comment on Campbell's ability? I remember him well from college, but he seemed to have incredibly limited play time this preseason.[/QUOTE]

look at the game by game, he had a lot of games where he threw a total of 11 times too.

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[QUOTE=jbcjr14]Lets hope like hell he is right on this and stand behind it 100%. If it doesn't work out over the long term, then we can question the judgement of the king. But until then, all these threads about starting Campbell and Ramsey getting the shaft should come to an end until he has actually killed the teams chances. [/QUOTE]

you mean like after the 1-4 start he gave us last year? the reason is his track record isn't great :/

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[QUOTE=mheisig]Clearly that's not the case for all rookie QBs. Roethlisberger had a 98.1 passer rating his rookie year, 17 TDs, 11 INTs, only 2 fumbles and a 66.4% completion percentage, and the minor detail of being undefeated until the AFC championship game. I'd call that damn efficient and mistake free.

Now, granted, Roethlisberger is the exception, not the rule. I still don't see it being much worse than it is.

I didn't make it to any of the preseason games, but can anyone comment on Campbell's ability? I remember him well from college, but he seemed to have incredibly limited play time this preseason.[/QUOTE]

If Jason Campbell is Ben Roethlisberger....put him on the field! But "Big Ben" is something else though...Campbell needs time.

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Ideally, you like to DEVELOP your rookie QBs, not toss them in the fire for short-term gain. Maybe we'll get to the point this year where we've got nothing to lose by going to the rook, but I don't think we're there yet.

My guess is Brunnell gets a lot of rope by which to hang himslef, but if he's hurt, it's back to PR. Some of this switch is designed to light a fire under PR, and to convince him, a la Rypien, that he CANNOT turn the ball over. Maybe it'll work, and we'll see an improved Ramsey yet this year.

Bring Campbell along right--rememeber: PRs development has been rushed, and it's messed him up, IMO.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]If Ramsey isn't ready, how can we say Campbell is?

If Gibbs wants efficiency and turnover free play from his QB, a rookie QB is not the way to go.[/QUOTE]

That's the thing. Ramsey is far from being a rookie. Campbell gets a free pass because he is. You have to feel more comfortable with Brunell at the helm because he's not going to turn it over as Ramsey has. I'm for Brunell starting this game even if Ramsey hadn't gotten clothesline and won the game being the starter throughout the opener. We can beat DAL (possibly without scoring a TD) if we don't have a costly turnover. TDs will come and the Ws will keep coming if we do just that. :oink:

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[QUOTE=JWsleep]Bring Campbell along right--rememeber: PRs development has been rushed, and it's messed him up, IMO.[/QUOTE]

I think missing out of camp due to contract issues was a big no-no too, that mighty greed for pennies ends up costing almost every holout millions in the long run (well, the ones that survive that contract, though sometimes the holdouts also cause premature cuts too). Benson isn't going to be a factor till at least week 3... if he had been there on time, maybe the bears would have had a better chance... if ramsey was on time, he could have started a lot sooner too...

campbell on the otherhand was very fast to sign and immediately came in to start working on the playbook when he didn't have to... so at least he's trying to set himelf up for success.