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As much as anyone on this site, I have had fun at the expense of current Redskins, ex-Redskins, and opponents. With that in mind, I will ask everyone to read this post:

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=7911[/URL]

Understand that jokes about this will not be tolerated. There will be no warnings other than this one. Posts will be deleted upon first read, and if I have anything to say about it (and I believe that I do) the user will be banned.

Have a pleasant weekend.

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I always respected Coles as a player. Now I respect him as a person. It takes a lot of courage to go public with such a painful memory, and there is no reason for him to do so aside from a sincere desire to help others with similar circumstances.

Sounds like New York may be a better place for him to be right now. I wish him the best in the rest of his career.

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after reading that article, i honestly feel bad for coles. when he left, i hated him for the way he acted while he was here, but reading that article gives me a new light. to have to cope with that for 3 years, it made him stronger, and i'm glad he's bringing it out. for the way he's turned out in the nfl, coles has earned my respect.

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That's a horrible thing that happened to Coles, but, I have new found respect for the guy. To come public about something like that takes guts.

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real glad you said something

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Wow, I admit I was pissed about Coles and the way he left, but this is totally seperate from the football world, I wish him the best and I hope he knows Redskins fans will always have his back... and respect.

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Aside from how I feel about him on the football feild right now, thats downright horrible. I hope he has come around in his life (which I think he has) and can try to put away that painful time. Good luck to him in that aspect.

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I met Laverneus at the DC improv in 2001 and I have to tell you he was a great guy. He hung out after the show spoke to the management of the club, the fans, and the waitstaff. He signed autographs for about 15 minutes after the show and was extremely gracious. I've always been a fan but that experience made me like him more. Now that I know he was molested I have even more respect for the guy, being able to talk about it. Big Ups L. :biggthump

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I hope every network that covers the NFL runs this story.

for a superstar to come out with something like this....
if there is one kidliving in hell that takes a little hope/comfort/anyhting from this then LC is a hero.

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That takes a lot of courage. Hopefully this will give others the courage and confidence that they need to tell someone if they are stuck in the same situation.

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]As much as anyone on this site, I have had fun at the expense of current Redskins, ex-Redskins, and opponents. With that in mind, I will ask everyone to read this post:

[url="http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=7911"]http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=7911[/url]

Understand that jokes about this will not be tolerated. There will be no warnings other than this one. Posts will be deleted upon first read, and if I have anything to say about it (and I believe that I do) the user will be banned.

Have a pleasant weekend.[/QUOTE]

While I appreciate the serious nature of this issue, I'm not so sure such a stern warning is necessary, especially a preemptive warning. I do believe that most Warpathers know not to go there and crack jokes about such a sensitive issue. I also understand that within any group, even within the Warpath, there are going to be a few clowns. I'm sure that was the audience you intended to resonate with, Brud. So I can appreciate what you're doing with the warning. But with such a stern tone, and before any "clowns" actually cracked any inappropriate jokes, the site starts to feel a bit uptight.

Mind you, I'm totally on the same page with you, it's not a funny thing to joke about. And I'm not a mod, so maybe there is a reason, to which I'm not privy, explaining why the site needs to be so mindful of it's Ps and Qs. I guess the point of this rambling post is just to wonder if such a stern tone is really necessary.

No love lost though.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]While I appreciate the serious nature of this issue, I'm not so sure such a stern warning is necessary, especially a preemptive warning. I do believe that most Warpathers know not to go there and crack jokes about such a sensitive issue. I also understand that within any group, even within the Warpath, there are going to be a few clowns. I'm sure that was the audience you intended to resonate with, Brud. So I can appreciate what you're doing with the warning. But with such a stern tone, and before any "clowns" actually cracked any inappropriate jokes, the site starts to feel a bit uptight.

Mind you, I'm totally on the same page with you, it's not a funny thing to joke about. And I'm not a mod, so maybe there is a reason, to which I'm not privy, explaining why the site needs to be so mindful of it's Ps and Qs. I guess the point of this rambling post is just to wonder if such a stern tone is really necessary.

No love lost though.[/QUOTE]

If I was to begin pointing fingers at those who have made inappropriate comments about former Redskins, I would start with myself. The boundaries for such behavior are pretty lenient here. I wanted to make sure everyone knows that such boundaries do, however, exist - and that cracking wise about sexual abuse is way past them.

Nearly everyone has a story about telling jokes at a party, when all of the sudden someone breaks out the inappropriate racist or sexist or fill-in-the-blank-phobic joke. The whole gathering is spoiled by one person's idiotic insensitivity. This was to remind everyone not to be that guy.

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]This was to remind everyone not to be that guy.[/QUOTE]

no one likes me :(

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This story explains a lot about Coles's demeanor, particularly around the press. He was one of the most unapproachable players I'd ever met; you could see him physically tense-up and bristle whenever the press approached him. He always avoided making eye contact, giving brief and often curt answers to reporters' questions.

It's obvious now that much of that behavior was a product of the defense-mechanism he's developed from coping with such an emotionally damaging trauma.

I sincerely feel bad for him now, especially since I had developed a genuine dislike for the guy while dealing with him as a member of the press for two years, then hearing how he treated Joe Gibbs and the team leading up to his departure.

When you find out that someone has been carrying the burden of such a dark and painful secret in their life, it totally changes your perspective on all their past behaviors, and forces you to think twice next time the impulse to judge may strike.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]no one likes me :([/QUOTE]
lower case, not Upper Case. ;)

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I think it is very admirable that coles would share this story with everyone else. It really shows that he wants to make a difference in other's lives who might be experiencing something like this or might have experienced it in the past. It's pretty remarkable how he was able to cope with this and put it behind him and turn into an NFL star. It takes courage to come out with a story like this and I hope he has a good future ahead.

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I always liked coles because he has always been a blue colar guy with a great work ethic. this article was great because it showed his motivation.

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Coles' story is compelling and all too real in the society we live in. It just goes to show you that child molestation and rape is not alien to those in the NFL, NBA, NHL or any other sport. The most positive result of Coles' story is the fact that he seems to have confronted his past and moved to a point to share and hopefully help others to overcome such a tragic and horrible experience.

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I always respected Coles because he NEVER appeared to be afraid to go over the middle. My respect for him has now skyrocketed; he's willing to talk publicly (in the New York Times no less) about something that is so very personal and emotional.

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That takes a lot of guts. I applaud the man. I’m sure it will help other children that have suffered the same.

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Who cares? I wish there was a smiley that resembled the punk! Wait. Here's one. Open up "Trouble"... :eek:

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I definitely respect Coles for his attempt to help others while sharing a painful memory. Best of wishes to the man; I hope he does well in NY.

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[QUOTE=BossHog]Who cares? I wish there was a smiley that resembled the punk! Wait. Here's one. Open up "Trouble"... :eek:[/QUOTE]
You are the weakest link. Goodbye.

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Coles: A good person, terrible football player.

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BossHog, - very poor taste. Did you not read the first post in this thread??

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While I don't agree with the "who cares?" part (I tend to care a lot since I have a daughter and that tends to strengthen your resolve to have people who do this kind of thing killed in very painful and tedious ways) I won't simply give the guy a free pass on the way he treated our beloved Redskins organization. He definitely deserves our respect for being open and honest about this because it could help others out there come out about abuse. But it does not give one the right to be a punk. He was a punk when he treated the Redskins the way he did and this doesn't really change that perception. Maybe I won't look upon him with such disdain now but I still will hiold agrudge about the Skins deal.

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[QUOTE=Bozzy]Coles: A good person, terrible football player.[/QUOTE]

cortez is terrible, ade is on the verge of terrible... coles wasnt worth the money after his injury, but is definately not terrible ;)

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[QUOTE=That Guy]cortez is terrible, ade is on the verge of terrible... coles wasnt worth the money after his injury, but is definately not terrible ;)[/QUOTE]
Yeah there's no way you can call hima terrible football player. If not for the toe injury he is a top 6 or 7 WR. That is far from terrible.

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]Yeah there's no way you can call hima terrible football player. If not for the toe injury he is a top 6 or 7 WR. That is far from terrible.[/QUOTE]

Not too mention he has scored more TD's this year than our whole offense.....

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]Yeah there's no way you can call hima terrible football player. [b]If not for the toe injury he is a top 6 or 7 WR.[/b] That is far from terrible.[/QUOTE]

You can't just separate the toe problem from the player. One of the big reasons he has the toe problem is because he refuses to get it fixed. And it's not like you can sign a guy and say, "hey, we'll sign you to a multi-million-dollar contract, but you can't bring your toe with you."

While I don't think Coles is "terrible" (I'd save that term for Todd Pinkston), he's definitely not going to help anybody win anything in the NFL. With that toe issue he is reduced to nothing more than a posession WR.

While I sympathize with his childhood plight, I can't stand him. He's self-centered in the way he demands to be used in an offense, and all the while he can't produce that way because he won't get his toe fixed. Good riddance.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]You can't just separate the toe problem from the player. One of the big reasons he has the toe problem is because he refuses to get it fixed. And it's not like you can sign a guy and say, "hey, we'll sign you to a multi-million-dollar contract, but you can't bring your toe with you."

While I don't think Coles is "terrible" (I'd save that term for Todd Pinkston), he's definitely not going to help anybody win anything in the NFL. With that toe issue he is reduced to nothing more than a posession WR.

While I sympathize with his childhood plight, I can't stand him. He's self-centered in the way he demands to be used in an offense, and all the while he can't produce that way because he won't get his toe fixed. Good riddance.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I totally agree. I should have stated I do not think he is a top flight WR with the toe injury but he is still a solid WR either way.

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Has everyone forgotten the TD Coles saved on that pick last year where he could have quit on the play but tackled the defender down ans stripped the ball?

I can't hate the guy, it's not like he's Dieon Sanders.

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat]
I can't hate the guy, it's not like he's Dieon Sanders.[/QUOTE]

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE=BossHog]Who cares? I wish there was a smiley that resembled the punk! Wait. Here's one. Open up "Trouble"... :eek:[/QUOTE]

BrudLee specifically layed down the law with this thread, and you basically flipped him the finger and went on to make a disrespectful post.

Sorry but there's no room for that around here.

You're in the box for a week.

Peace out.

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat]
I can't hate the guy, it's not like he's Dieon Sanders.[/QUOTE]

That's not saying much.