LaVar not happy
 

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I really hope he gets a start after the bye week.

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i hope so too. he's too good to be a backup. i think he will definitely be put in a bigger role after the bye week. apparantly he thinks his knee is healthy, but dale lindsay says he's not 100 percent yet. well i hope two weeks is enough practice for him to get to 100 percent.

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I hope Lavar get back in soon as well but what did he expect when last time he said they rushed him back he shoulda known they were gonna take their time.

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He wants to be out there helping the team, but I think after what happened last year the team and coaches are in no rush to push him too far too quick, even if he says he's 100%.

He thought he could come back last year and look what happened... then he turned it around on the team. Not gonna happen this time.

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I am confident G Williams has great plans for an athelete of his caliber. He'll be a happy dude soon! I hope

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I really think he should play more DE on passing downs. I wonder if it's the knee or Lavar's freelancing nature that is keeping him on the bench. If he plays DE he can freelance all he wants if you ask me. Dwight Freeney is like five pounds heavier than Lavar.

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When is Lavar happy? That's the real question. The guy has been nothing but a pain in the ass since he arrived here. Remember his first contract, he agreed in principle to terms and then tried to pull back in signing it, then signed it.

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Seems like every other month there's some "Lavar Not Happy" article. We could probably do a whole forum of Unhappy Lavar articles.

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I just think they put the quotes together and slap that title on the peice. He dosent really say anything that makes him unhappy. I love how when people say they would like to play, all of the sudden they are unhappy. I didnt play a whole lot in high school when I would have liked too, but that dosent mean I'm unhappy, ya know? If a reporter asked me if I wanted to play I would say somthing like Lavar did.

That being said, I agree that hes way to good to be on the sidelines and hope hes out there more vs Seattle.

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I will communicate with him, 'hey Lavar your the most overated player in football" now you know where you stand.

How many 60 million dollar LB's can't even crack a lineup? Especially with the only name on our LB corps is M. Washington.

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711]I just think they put the quotes together and slap that title on the peice. He dosent really say anything that makes him unhappy. I love how when people say they would like to play, all of the sudden they are unhappy. I didnt play a whole lot in high school when I would have liked too, but that dosent mean I'm unhappy, ya know? If a reporter asked me if I wanted to play I would say somthing like Lavar did.

That being said, I agree that hes way to good to be on the sidelines and hope hes out there more vs Seattle.[/QUOTE]

I agree the title is misleading.

What is he supposed to say, I love riding the bench and not playing? I'm content with not playing?

Please.

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well the unhappiness from not being talked about it sounds real.

it really sounds like LaVar is not as much a system guy as they want him to be. everything he does he does with emotion, look at all the off-field stuff, on field must be even more so. especially with the huge chip he's carrying right now. loose canon.

i remember him not liking playing DE, but man that's what we NEED. wonder if he'd consider it again, and how he'd take it?

hell with Noble out, and the LBs playing so well, why doesn't Williams check up on his 3-4?

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso]I really think he should play more DE on passing downs. I wonder if it's the knee or Lavar's freelancing nature that is keeping him on the bench. If he plays DE he can freelance all he wants if you ask me. Dwight Freeney is like five pounds heavier than Lavar.[/QUOTE]

It sounds like that may be it, that he (like ramsey) just isnt doing what the staff wants to see him do in practice yet.

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[QUOTE=illdefined]
i remember him not liking playing DE, but man that's what we NEED. wonder if he'd consider it again, and how he'd take it?

hell with Noble out, and the LBs playing so well, why doesn't Williams check up on his 3-4?[/QUOTE]

before last year he said he just wanted to win and wouldn't mind playing DE if that's what he had to do... he also said he saw what marvin lewis was doing and was sorry he was soo resistant to his plans at the time.

i think williams does use some 3-4 mixed in with everything else, but the base package is standard 4-3.

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"LaVar needs more work [in practice]," Lindsey said. "On top of that, he has to feel confident that his knee is OK and that he understands what the [defensive] system asks him to do and then can go out and do that to the best of his ability, and we have to feel the same way about him."

The impression I'm getting from Lindsey's quote:

1) LaVar is still free-lancing and not doing what Gregg Williams is asking him to do.

2) LaVar doesn't fully understand Gregg Williams' scheme.

If that's the case, they are doing the right thing by not starting him IMO.

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Arrington as a down lineman is problematic. The difference between a two point stance and a three point stance is pretty significant for a player who has 6 yr in the league and add in his time at Penn State and you have a player who wants to stay in his comfort zone. Even if he agreed to try and switch it would be difficult.

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[QUOTE=5RINGS]Arrington as a down lineman is problematic. The difference between a two point stance and a three point stance is pretty significant for a player who has 6 yr in the league and add in his time at Penn State and you have a player who wants to stay in his comfort zone. Even if he agreed to try and switch it would be difficult.[/QUOTE]

well he did get career high sacks that year.

if not, let's see the 3-4. we have a backup tackle in there now, and our front four isn't bringing it without help anyway.

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How do you have the potential best linbacker in football ...not playing..????

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Your Defence is avg 10pt a game. That's pretty good. Why switch schemes now?

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shutouts!

(and frankly, maybe some defensive points..)

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[QUOTE=railcon56@comcast.net]How do you have the potential best linbacker in football ...not playing..????[/QUOTE]

if he's not buying into the system, it doesn't matter how good he is... the defense as a whole will suffer if every player is not covering his zone.

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I remember playing LT you had to design your offense to stop him...and then u freed every one else up.... less recievers out more protection... Plus lavar is nasty ... every hit is a potential fumble or injury or big play... Bruce Smith at the end of his career after many years said some one hit him on the first day of camp and it was the hardest he had ever been hit.... When u have talent like that you find a way.... Juat ask Aikman..(not sure if thats how you spell his name but frankly i dont give a damn how its spelled....) lol

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I think we have to really take him coming back in stride. There is no way he won't crack the lineup in some capacity soon. Lavar will be playing in the next game if not starting.

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Someone here asked:

How do you have the potential best linbacker in football ...not playing..????


I believe the answer to that is in the question itself. It is the word "potential". LaVar has been in the NFL far too long to continue to get his playing time based on "potential". Rookies and second year players get playing time so that they can develop their potential. By this point in the careersa of men who were good enough to be thought of as the "best linebackers in football", they were not living on potential; they were demonstrating it on the field Sunday after Sunday and earning even the grudging respect of fans of their most bitter opponents.

LaVar Arrington is a gifted football player on a physical level. He better find a way to use those physical gifts sometime soon because Father Time does not let linebackers keep those "best linebacker in football physical skills" for all that long. The clock is ticking...

I don't know if Arrington's "issue" now is that the knee is not yet right or if he and the coaches are at odds with each other. This knee problem has gone on for about a year now; originally they thought it would be fine in about a month to six weeks. So, maybe there is some real problem going on in there.

Or it could be that LaVar is not taking to coaching as well as coaches would like him to. That has happened before.

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[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]LaVar has been in the NFL far too long to continue to get his playing time based on "potential". [/QUOTE]

So, you don't give the guy playing time based on his proven performance? I just find it hard to believe that a perrenial pro-bowler is having to justify playing time behind warrick holdman and chris clemons. This guy has done nothing but lead our Defense since we drafted him and become the face of the team. I like clemons as a third down pass rusher, but not as a blocker-shedding playmaker on the defense. I think the lack of big plays on defense is a pretty big concern with Williams and he'll give Arrington the shot to claim the spot as his soon. Probably after the bye. I hope they just don't want him to get hurt again, but they may be seeing where they'd be if they trade him to unlock some cap room, and keeping him healthy until around week 6. I'd hate to see him go, but it is a possibility.

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Can't we just give the man a chance to work his way back?

Seriously, we had about 5 or 6 'Where's LaVar' threads going earlier this week.

A little patience goes a long way.

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This won't be a popular opinion, but...
I really think trading him in the offseason for draft picks and cap room is a good idea. I don't know what the "dead money" situation would be but if it gives us cap relief and can generate a #1 and #2 or 3 draft pick, I'd pull the trigger.

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I like Lavar's physical skills as much as any Redskins fan, but he's not smart enough to excel in Gregg Williams' systems. He consistently makes mental errors, and I think that's why the coaches are reluctant to work him back into the mix. Besides, our D has been incredible without him.

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[QUOTE=5RINGS]Arrington as a down lineman is problematic. The difference between a two point stance and a three point stance is pretty significant for a player who has 6 yr in the league and add in his time at Penn State and you have a player who wants to stay in his comfort zone. Even if he agreed to try and switch it would be difficult.[/QUOTE]

under marvin lewis he had 10 sacks playing DE only on 3rd downs, so i don't think it'd be a problem, and he's already agreed that he's willing to do it.

or best DE last year got like 4 sacks playing everydown.

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Lavar will be back.
Noone should worry. He's coming off an injury that kept him out almost all of last season. The Redskins are winning without him right now so it's not that big of a deal. Arrington will be back in full swing by midseason and hopefully be healthy to take us into the playoffs. Yeah its the first post I've mentioned playoffs as a reality, but Arrington will be a big assett to this team this year! And you'll see it soon. Noone really knows if he's over having swelling in his knee. Why play him full tilt if he wasn't 100% in wk2 and we have a wk3 bye? You'll see more of him in the coming weeks. And I still believe he's got plenty in the tank. He wants to win and he wants to win as a Redskin. Good combo. Don't fret and please don't continue to freak out. Gibbs' and Tyer and the organization have been to the rodeo before.

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As much as I love LaVar and want to see him playing more, I am a Redskins fan first, and with our D allowing only 10pts. per game, plus being 2-0, I say work him in slowly. There is no rush. If he has such a problem with that, shut up and work harder to show the coaches you are ready.
That being said, I agree that the article kind of strings a lot of negative quotes together and leaves out more positive ones like how he just wants to win and was thrilled with the win in Dallas, even though he wished he could have been more of a part of it.

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A couple points to make:

The first skins defensive play this past monday night, Lavar was in there and came from accross the field to make the tackle on J. Jones for a gain of 3-4 yds. Great play. Check the tape, i'm 99% sure. Big time, play. I didn't even see him the rest of the game.

As for the injury, this is the NFL. He should get more than a couple plays a game, even if he's hurt.

As for his attitude, its obvious anyone who plays in the nfl should want to play and be upset if he's not. This guy has played hurt for us many, many times and probably not gotten the respect for it. He probably is a little sensative sometimes but this guy has a ton of heart and is a true redskin.

And...he probably should be explained how they want to "easy him in" or if they are just not going to play him b/c they feel he freelances too much. He is one of the most tenured skins on the team.

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[QUOTE=redsk1]A couple points to make:

The first skins defensive play this past monday night, Lavar was in there and came from accross the field to make the tackle on J. Jones for a gain of 3-4 yds. Great play. Check the tape, i'm 99% sure. Big time, play. I didn't even see him the rest of the game.

As for the injury, this is the NFL. He should get more than a couple plays a game, even if he's hurt.

As for his attitude, its obvious anyone who plays in the nfl should want to play and be upset if he's not. This guy has played hurt for us many, many times and probably not gotten the respect for it. He probably is a little sensative sometimes but this guy has a ton of heart and is a true redskin.

And...he probably should be explained how they want to "easy him in" or if they are just not going to play him b/c they feel he freelances too much. He is one of the most tenured skins on the team.[/QUOTE]

All of this runs contrary to his statements last year when he complained that the coaches rushed him back after his injury too early.

Sometimes, it seems like it's hard to please LaVar.

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Like i said before....maybe lavar should of learned Williams system, rather than take those people to wal-mart. but then again, this might be a good thing for lavar....if he keeps acting like a little bitch, he can use his degree from the state penn, i mean penn state, and maybe one day i'll hear over the intercom....LAVAR, CLEAN UP ON AISLE THREE. But i really think the reason is more than the knee,Williams is a great coach, and i think he wants his players to be in the right position all the time and lavar does his own thing, which hurts our scheme. I use to be a big fan of lavars, until he tried to screw the team out of money, then i saw what a selfish dick he really is. I use to wear Lavars shirt every sunday with pride, sadly now, he's old news(and a bitch) i might add, now i wear taylors #21 jersey, now he's a stud who gives his all.

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lavar has his reasons, for instance in that arbitration, he felt they wronged him, therefore he did what he had to do, but in the end it got settled peacefully. he's not a selfish man, taking those people to walmart speaks for itself. sadly now, he's not being used to his full potential, and he's not a bitch. what the hell did he do to deserve this treatment? now taylor's a stud who gives his all? yeah i figured, that's why he took the law into his own hands and put a gun to some guy's face. i'm getting sick of all you lavar haters, for all the things he does for the fans you'd think he get the tiniest ounce of respect. did you ever think lavar just decided bah, i don't have to learn the playbook, no. maybe he thinks he's ready, but the coaches think he isn't. and did the thought ever cross your mind that in gregg williams scheme, the plays for lavar are designed so he can freelance and still make plays?

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LAVAR could get more pressure on QBs playing a one man front than all four of our starters

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back to the original post, i heard the entire interview yesterday (replayed) and he said if you ask anyone, of course they're not happy when they're not playing, but winning is far more important than anything else, and we won... that's a paraphrase anyways.

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[QUOTE=mooby]lavar has his reasons, for instance in that arbitration, he felt they wronged him, therefore he did what he had to do, but in the end it got settled peacefully. he's not a selfish man, taking those people to walmart speaks for itself. sadly now, he's not being used to his full potential, and he's not a bitch. what the hell did he do to deserve this treatment? now taylor's a stud who gives his all? yeah i figured, that's why he took the law into his own hands and put a gun to some guy's face. i'm getting sick of all you lavar haters, for all the things he does for the fans you'd think he get the tiniest ounce of respect. did you ever think lavar just decided bah, i don't have to learn the playbook, no. maybe he thinks he's ready, but the coaches think he isn't. and did the thought ever cross your mind that in gregg williams scheme, the plays for lavar are designed so he can freelance and still make plays?[/QUOTE]

Whoa, cowboy (no punned intended), I thought Taylor still had to stand trial on his situation. So why are you saying he pointed a gun to someone's face....and he's only been accused at this point?

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either way, I'm getting antsy to see Arrington and Taylor and Washington and Griffin all on the field at the same time. Our DE's need a bit of work, but our seconday is crucial. I just really wanna see some big plays on defense. We havent really had to many. I know wins are what matters, but big D plays couldnt hurt.

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BTW yeah that was arrington in the first play that ran JJ down from behind, but when they introduced the starting D on TV they announced holdman, marshall, and washington.