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While enjoying dallas losing (hope it lasts) drew bledsoe passed joe montana in yards passed. 40 thousand something. Thats such a pantload. Its not fair that a QB can throw a 1 yard screen,the receiver runs 99 yards and the stats say the QB threw for 100 yards. Give the receiver 99 and the QB 1.

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The receiver gets it too. Also, there is usually a YAC category these days too.

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Yea i know the receiver gets it...shoulda left that part out....but the QB shouldnt get a yard more than where the ball was caught.

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i disagree, for example brunell on his second pass of the last game owned and threw a perfect pass, he deserved the full 70 yards for recognizing that moss had the biggest potential of going to the house. It is just that QBs have options and by throwing a 1 yarder they make a decision and if it is a good one then the receiver probally will go for many yards therefore they deserve the yards in my opinion

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there are definetly a lot more rules dumber then this one. this one isn't even dumb. how can you dis-cred a qb yards just because he throws to a spot and the reciever puts on extra yeards.

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How about if you intercept a pass on a 2 point conversion, run it back 100 yards, you don't get 6 points???

How come Punts are measured from the line of scrimmage and Field goals from the spot of the kick?

How come Oliver Stone is still allowed to make movies?

These are the things I can't understand.

Jim

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dumbest rule of all...... OVERTIME

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]dumbest rule of all...... OVERTIME[/QUOTE]

While I hate a tie (like kissing your sister. Believe me, it's over rated), I HATE the NFL version, which basically means the game often is determined by a coin toss.

Why not some version of the college system where both teams get a chance.

If you score, and I don't I lose.

But if you score and I don't get a chance, how fair is that?

IMHO

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[QUOTE=jgalecpa]While I hate a tie (like kissing your sister. Believe me, it's over rated), I HATE the NFL version, which basically means the game often is determined by a coin toss.

Why not some version of the college system where both teams get a chance.

If you score, and I don't I lose.

But if you score and I don't get a chance, how fair is that?

IMHO[/QUOTE]
yeah that is what i meant the nfl version. I like two ideas, first to 5(which i think is the same thing as first to 4) points or the college rules. College rules are very nice and defenses have to put up a stop while the first to 5 rule forces it to be either a TD or two field goals, also a safty and field goal would be a win.

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If the NFL can finally adopt the 2-pt conversion, why not the OT?

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if we take the NCAA OT system, do we have to take the BCS too?

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OK, here's another rule I don't understand:

Can someone tell me what the difference is between pass interference and illegal contact (when the defender touches the receiver beyond five yards) ?

One is penalized only five yards, while the other gets the ball placed where the infraction happened. And I know it's not dependent on who the intended receiver is -- I originally thought the pass interference was called only on the intended receiver, while illegal contact was called on any receiver. But watching the Atlanta-Buffalo game, the ball was thrown at a Buffalo wideout, who was touched well after 5 yards, and it was an illegal contact penalty. But why wasn't it pass interference?

Is it simply a judgement call? Or am I missing something?

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i rather the NBA OT rules... add 15minutes, if the score is still tied, add 15 more... still tied? 15more, etc.

fatigue + injuries make it unlikely to ever be used, but it'd be my choice. I don't like the NCAA OT rules... its geared towards offensive teams and forced turnovers for the defenses, so there's still some of the luck over skill the current OT system suffers from.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven]OK, here's another rule I don't understand:

Can someone tell me what the difference is between pass interference and illegal contact (when the defender touches the receiver beyond five yards) ?

One is penalized only five yards, while the other gets the ball placed where the infraction happened. And I know it's not dependent on who the intended receiver is -- I originally thought the pass interference was called only on the intended receiver, while illegal contact was called on any receiver. But watching the Atlanta-Buffalo game, the ball was thrown at a Buffalo wideout, who was touched well after 5 yards, and it was an illegal contact penalty. But why wasn't it pass interference?

Is it simply a judgement call? Or am I missing something?[/QUOTE]

PI is when the ball is out of the qb's hands already in the air, and Ic is when the ball is still in the qb's hands, IINM

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[QUOTE=jrocx69]PI is when the ball is out of the qb's hands already in the air, and Ic is when the ball is still in the qb's hands, IINM[/QUOTE]

That makes sense, but yesterday during the Falcons-Bills game, the ball was in the air, and they called illegal contact. Now, I should mention it was one of those very late flags, the kind that the official throws well after the play, when the receiver protested heavily.

It seems that pass interference is called when the receiver is absolutely mauled by a defensive back right before the ball arrives, while illegal contact is just that -- very minimal contact. To me, it looks like nothing but a judgement call, dependent on the mood of the official at the time.

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I am tired of all the stat talk about marginal players like Bledsoe.
Stats are for media geeks and fantasy footballer's. Drew Bledoe has a ton of great stats because he has played for a long time, but he has never won a Superbowl. Bledsoe was on the bench of the 2001 Pats, but Brady was the starter. Bledsoe is an above average QB, he should not be held in the same regard as future HOF QB's like Montana, Young, Brady ETC.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins]I am tired of all the stat talk about marginal players like Bledsoe.
Stats are for media geeks and fantasy footballer's. Drew Bledoe has a ton of great stats because he has played for a long time, but he has never won a Superbowl. Bledsoe was on the bench of the 2001 Pats, but Brady was the starter. Bledsoe is an above average QB, he should not be held in the same regard as future HOF QB's like Montana, Young, Brady ETC.[/QUOTE]


Stat talk is a part of football. You can't get around it, no matter who the player is.

Do you get tired of hearing the stat about Timmy Smith, a marginal player in the grand scheme of things, other than one game of course. Yet he still holds the record for most yards gained rushing in the Super Bowl.

I don't know about you, but that's a stat I could hear over and over.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven]Stat talk is a part of football. You can't get around it, no matter who the player is.

Do you get tired of hearing the stat about Timmy Smith, a marginal player in the grand scheme of things, other than one game of course. Yet he still holds the record for most yards gained rushing in the Super Bowl.

I don't know about you, but that's a stat I could hear over and over.[/QUOTE]

If Bledoe actually held a record in the Superbowl game like Timmy Smith, I might not think he is an overrated player. Bledsoe played like crap when he played in a Super bowl in the 90's for the Pats.
Timmy Smith did not, although to be fair, the Hogs opened holes for Timmy that I could have run through.

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This isn't even a rule. This is an argument over who gets credit for the yardage when a screen pass goes for a TD. Who cares? The bottom line is a TD is a TD, no matter who gets the credit.

Rules have a bearing on the outcome of the game. This argument just has bearing on who gets the stats. Big deal. If you're going to argue rules, argue about when a catch is a catch, or how much contact is illegal contact, or whether the ground can cause a fumble or not. But this isn't even worth discussing.

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plus joe montana and every other QB plays(ed) under the same rules so it evens out in the end..

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]This isn't even a rule. This is an argument over who gets credit for the yardage when a screen pass goes for a TD. Who cares? The bottom line is a TD is a TD, no matter who gets the credit.

Rules have a bearing on the outcome of the game. This argument just has bearing on who gets the stats. Big deal. If you're going to argue rules, argue about when a catch is a catch, or how much contact is illegal contact, or whether the ground can cause a fumble or not. But this isn't even worth discussing.[/QUOTE]

I was just about to post something similar, I couldn't believe it took 19 posts until someone said this isn't a rule, LOL.

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I absolutely HATE College OT. I remember watching Arkansas beat Mississippi (And Kid Eli) in 7 OTs, and as exciting as it was, it was way too damn long. The game was 17-17 going into OT, and the final score was 58-56! Any decent team can score from the 25. Want to make it better? Have the teams start from their own 40. That way, they have to work to even get 3. You can run 3 unsuccessful plays from the defensive 25, and put points on the board...to me, starting on the 25 is kinda like getting the ball handed to you via coinflip.

I'm glad they don't have ties anymore, but I prefer the Pro OT system. Granted, it's unfair if the other team doesn't get a chance, but life is unfair. If your special teams cannot stop the returner on the kickoff, do you really deserve to win? Your defense should be pumped enough to make crucial stops in OT to get their offense the ball.

as far as stats are concerned, the QB benefits from a piss poor defense that cannot stop a screen pass.

Illegal contact vs. Pass Interference. Not quite sure the exact wording, but have to believe that it has to do with the type of play. Illegal contact may not impede a receiver making the catch, whereas Pass Interference does...

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illegal contact is touching the WR after 5 yards... the clearest example is how CBs used to keep their hand on the WR shoulder to keep track of where they were (champ did it a lot), which didn't really affect the WRs route.

pass interence is interfering with their ability to catch a ball, by throwing them to the ground, pushing them, tripping them, etc.

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Worse rule? Easliy the arbitrary hands to the face on QB's. Why don't the refs just be honest and reword it to read "Hands to the face of QB's we like"?

Last night Eli has his brow lightly mopped by one of the Bolts LB's and there was a 15 yard penalty. Ramsey has his tenure at the Redskins cut short by a clothesline (where the arm hit his facemask) and he gets diddly......Bitter? Moi?