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offiss 09-26-2005 01:27 PM

Skins punt Groom
 
Groom is gone here comes Derrick Frost.

[url]http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=10630[/url]

SmootSmack 09-26-2005 01:28 PM

Re: Skins punt Groom
 
Guess I had reason to think they [URL=http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=8068&highlight=Groom]might[/URL]

skinsguy 09-26-2005 01:30 PM

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Wow....another example of us not settling for medicore play.

illdefined 09-26-2005 01:36 PM

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wha?? jeez, did Groom cause a turnover too? i liked the guy, strong leg and nothing but room to grow. oh well, hope this guy is good?

JWsleep 09-26-2005 01:41 PM

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Wow, good cal TAFKAS! Surprise to me, though I will say that as I watched games yesterday, I was very aware of how weak our special team play has been--other teams are pinning people and getting serious return yardage; we're really not.

Groom had a weak average and couldn't pin folks. There are lots of punters out there, so bye-bye. Wonder if this new guy wil be an improvment.

So, we've lost our punter, our PK, and our return man. We've got to fix that part of our game. Specials all but lost the Dallas game with that kickoff return. And field position is crucial--we've been playing on a long field all year, it seems. That affects playcalling and makes it harder to score points.

WOnder if Danny Smith makes it through the year? Who coached specials in Gibbs first tenure? ;)

FRPLG 09-26-2005 01:57 PM

Re: Skins punt Groom
 
Wayne Severe(sp?) and he was good. Real good. One of the best.

That Guy 09-26-2005 02:06 PM

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our ST's still stink... coverage is improved, i'm not sure danny is that great though.

This new guys average is a whopping 1 yard more, or 0.6yards more net average... i'm not sure its really much of an upgrade.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-26-2005 02:10 PM

Re: Skins punt Groom
 
Hm, I'm concerned about this punter turnover. It's going to be hard for our kickers to get used to new holders.

celts32 09-26-2005 03:37 PM

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I think they pulled the plug a little to soon...hopefully Groom does not turn into the punting equivilent of David Akers.

skinsguy 09-26-2005 03:56 PM

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The guy was punting awesome in preseason - I know it was only preseason, but that shouldn't matter how he was kicking the ball. Problem is, he hasn't shown the same leg during the regular season.

illdefined 09-26-2005 04:02 PM

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i dont get it, the Skins have gotten even more impatient as a team.

MTK 09-26-2005 04:34 PM

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Groom was near the bottom of the league in punting, if you can't get it done you're outta here, I like the message the team is sending. Losing Tupa really hurt us.

dblanch66 09-26-2005 06:20 PM

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]Wayne Severe(sp?) and he was good. Real good. One of the best.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately he can't coach from heaven. He died a few years back. Otherwise, he'd be back with the rest of the "Old Gang".

saskin 09-26-2005 06:49 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Groom was near the bottom of the league in punting, if you can't get it done you're outta here, I like the message the team is sending. Losing Tupa really hurt us.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I gotta agree with that. We need our players to perform as best as they can.

JWsleep 09-26-2005 07:02 PM

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In Gibbs' press conference on skins.com today, he mentioned that Groom got a good role on a few, so that raised the average up some. Bottom line, Groom wasn't hitting it where he had to, either too short or out of the endzone. THere are lots of punters out there, so you gotta produce, especially if you are a rookie.

We'll see if this new guy is the answer, or the first of a number of auditioning players. Special teams can really help and it can really hurt. And with our offense, losing the field position game is a big problem.

(Guess that's why the call it the NFL--Not for long, if you kick like that!)

STPainmaker 09-26-2005 09:11 PM

Re: Skins punt Groom
 
I guess there was a big enough problem with groom to bounce him. I feel like our special teams is really shaky, including return and coverage teams. I feel like we are shooting ourselves in both feet when we can't move the ball on offense, and we can't get any positive yards in the return game. This is a huge problem in the field position battle. If our special teams can be top flite our shortcomings on offense would figure less in each game.
It may be a more solvable problem then the offense.

SUNRA 09-26-2005 10:43 PM

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I think we're witnessing a change in the guard for the NFC East. Gibbs is not waiting for an Akers situation to occur. Philadelphia has got to be one of the dumbest and cheapest organizations in the NFL. It was cute the first time Simeoneau kicked the field goal. But to go another week without signing a place kicker is ridiculous. Then on top of that, plead with an injured kicker to go out and win the game for them is really pathetic.

FRPLG 09-27-2005 12:21 AM

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]I think we're witnessing a change in the guard for the NFC East. Gibbs is not waiting for an Akers situation to occur. Philadelphia has got to be one of the dumbest and cheapest organizations in the NFL. It was cute the first time Simeoneau kicked the field goal. But to go another week without signing a place kicker is ridiculous. Then on top of that, plead with an injured kicker to go out and win the game for them is really pathetic.[/QUOTE]
It'd serve them right if Akers tore that hammy up and was out for weeks. Morons they are. And cheap ones to boot.

Luxorreb 09-27-2005 07:39 AM

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Skins have seen more than we have of Groom. I thought he did a fine job, but something tells me we haven't seen anything yet from a below average special teams team.

In Gibbs I trust!

Bozzy 09-27-2005 04:29 PM

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There's plenty of punters to choose from. Just grab another.


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