Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)
 

I know there is a super duper mega merge Lavar thread, but since he is in all of the post game threads as well I figured this would be ok. On the postgame, Kelli Johnson asked GW about Lavar and he said that he's improving and is getting closer to being able to contribute.. After the interview she quoted sources who go up very high on the staff that said Lavar is practicing with the second team but is still freelancing too much in practice and isn't disciplined enough for the coaches to trust him. Brian Mitchell said it's common knowledge league wide that Arrington is undisciplined and will hurt his own team with mistakes and that he usually costs the Redskins 1-2 games per year with those mistakes. I'm as big of a Lavar fan as there is, but maybe we shouldn't look at all of the conspiracy reasons for Lavar not to play and focus on the man himself..

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I have no problem with LaVar riding the pine until he EARNS his playing time.

Apparently Gibbs is off the hook now with the fans and we've moved on to blasting Williams.

I find it laughable that some are now questioning GW... a man who many have championed to take over as head coach once Gibbs walks away. A man who has led many top ranked defenses in this league and probably knows a thing or two about personnel and who he feels comfortable working in his schemes.

If we should have learned one thing since Gibbs came back, it's that no individual player is above this team.

Why is LaVar exempt from this with some fans? It's no secret that he tends to play out of position and can get burnt because he doesn't stay true to the scheme.

The Monday Morning coach/GM routine is getting really tired, especially with people thinking they know how more than our coaching staff.

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I did watch the postgame w/ Comcast. I'll go on the record that i am a LA fan. I post my opinion, but i also know that Greg Williams knows alot more about football than me. So, I am also a big GW fan and think this guy is the best defensive mind in the league. Anything this coaching staff does, i'll support. As a skins fan, i would love for LA to make it out there and tear it up. We'll see...

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I'm a LaVar fan as well, BUT above all I'm a Skins fan.

If GW thinks we're better off right now with LaVar on the bench, call me crazy but I'm going to trust his decision. Just like I trusted Gibbs when he went with Brunell.

Do I always agree with these decisions? Definitely not. But in the end I'll support whatever decisions are made because I trust that Gibbs and this staff always has the team's best interests in mind at all times.

To insinuate that some of these decisions are personal or to stroke someone's ego is just absolutely assanine to me.

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I agree that Lavar tends to play out of position. But clearly we need a pass rush. No sacks yesterday. I can believe that there is not at least one package that he fits into where all he has to do is rush the qb. No need to fall into protection or stop the run, simply all out rush on the passer. I find it very hard to believe that he can't at least contribute that way. The man is a beast and to stop him on a blitz is tough. At least with him in the game, offenses have to think about him and maybe it allows someone else to get the qb. It is a shame not to get any sacks and have him sitting on the bench. Just my opionion.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Why is LaVar exempt from this with some fans? [/QUOTE]

Because I already bought the jersey. :smashfrea

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I am a Skins fan as long as they are winning I will support the coaching staff. I was against Brunell starting but look what he is doing. He is putting us in positions to win and not causing us to lose. My only problem with the LA thing isn't that he is not playing but the fact that they are probably just going to release him instead of trade him for something. He is too valuable to just let him go to another team. Plus that way we can dictate where he goes. Don't want him to show up in Dallas, Philly, or NYG and put a hurting on us.

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets]Because I already bought the jersey. :smashfrea[/QUOTE]
:lol: :laughing2

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[QUOTE=tjmorgan]I agree that Lavar tends to play out of position. But clearly we need a pass rush. No sacks yesterday. I can believe that there is not at least one package that he fits into where all he has to do is rush the qb. No need to fall into protection or stop the run, simply all out rush on the passer. I find it very hard to believe that he can't at least contribute that way. The man is a beast and to stop him on a blitz is tough. At least with him in the game, offenses have to think about him and maybe it allows someone else to get the qb. It is a shame not to get any sacks and have him sitting on the bench. Just my opionion.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree, just his presence on the field could make an impact. Although, I feel its much more than what they are saying.

I stuck with Gibbs with Brunell and I'll stick with Gregg with this decision.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I'm a LaVar fan as well, BUT above all I'm a Skins fan.

If GW thinks we're better off right now with LaVar on the bench, call me crazy but I'm going to trust his decision. Just like I trusted Gibbs when he went with Brunell.

Do I always agree with these decisions? Definitely not. But in the end I'll support whatever decisions are made because I trust that Gibbs and this staff always has the team's best interests in mind at all times.

To insinuate that some of these decisions are personal or to stroke someone's ego is just absolutely assanine to me.[/QUOTE]

Well said.

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[QUOTE=Paintrain]Brian Mitchell said it's common knowledge league wide that Arrington is undisciplined and will hurt his own team with mistakes and that he usually costs the Redskins 1-2 games per year with those mistakes.[/QUOTE]

This is the dumbest comment I've ever heard about LaVar, and I'm not the least bit suprised it came from the mouth of Brian Mitchell. Someone please give me an example of a game that LaVar has lost for the Skins, because the only game I can remember LaVar being single handedly responsible for the outcome was the Carolina game a few years back when the Skins were 0-5 and looking at 0-6 and LaVar intercepted the ball and returned it for a touchdown. Winning the game, and basically single handedly turning the season around.

Everyone wants to discount the "conspiricy theories", but no one thinks that LaVar having a contract dispute recently and bad mouthing the medical staff in the offseason has anything to do with him not playing? Also, he can only void his final two years of his contract if he makes the Pro Bowl twice in the next two years, but hmmm... the three time pro bowler isn't playing good enough to start. I bet LaVar gets a lot more playing time around week 6 or 7, when he'll be unable to get the type of stats needed to make the Pro Bowl.

And everyone seems to think Holdman is a "solid" replacement. So far this season Marcus Washington has 28 tackles, Marshall has 24, and Holdman has [b]10[/b], with no sacks, picks, or forced fumbles. In the 2 games that Arrington played in Williams system last year, he had 15 tackles and a sack, but all of the sudden he doesn't know how to play football. If Greg Williams actually believes that LaVar overpursues and freelances too much, then why isn't Omar Stoutmire starting over Sean Taylor?

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It doesnt make any sense to have one of our best defensive players on the bench! When the run game wasnt working so well last year the skins tailored the blocking skemes to suit Portis, why dont they tailor something on D for Lavar? We cant get pressure from our lineman on D and for some reason GW stopped blitzing, maybe we do need someone who can go in there and wreak havoc. The fact that they are saying that LA doesnt fit into the scheme is just BS, he fit perfectly fine last year before he got hurt, he was the face of the Skins now he just an overpaid bench warmer. I say play your best players, and especially a player that you just re-negotiated a contract with and are paying large sums of money. Our D right now isnt an attacking D, it seems like we let things come at us rather than going up against an offense and punching them square in the mouth!

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Lavar has alwasy been my favorite player on the skins in recent years. That's irrelivent though...winning is all that matters. I think many of the people who want Lavar to play will cite our defenses lack of sacks and turnovers as the reason. Lavar probably would bring some of those big plays, but he will probably also give up a lot of them in the process. GW has certainly weighed this out in his mind and at this point he obviously thinks that Lavar will cause more harm than good right now. What i find amazing is that Lavar obviously is still free lancing in practice. Knowing that the only way he will play on Sunday is if he follows his assignments durning the week and he is still messing up!

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[QUOTE=Stacks42]It doesnt make any sense to have one of our best defensive players on the bench! When the run game wasnt working so well last year the skins tailored the blocking skemes to suit Portis, why dont they tailor something on D for Lavar? We cant get pressure from our lineman on D and for some reason GW stopped blitzing, maybe we do need someone who can go in there and wreak havoc. The fact that they are saying that LA doesnt fit into the scheme is just BS, he fit perfectly fine last year before he got hurt, he was the face of the Skins now he just an overpaid bench warmer. I say play your best players, and especially a player that you just re-negotiated a contract with and are paying large sums of money. Our D right now isnt an attacking D, it seems like we let things come at us rather than going up against an offense and punching them square in the mouth![/QUOTE]


Exactly. Why do we not have packages in place just for Lavar. If he does not stay put in coverage, fine, don't use him in coverage. Put there are clearly times when we want to pressure the qb, and he is the best person on the team for that. He is a pure athlete, let him use those talents to beat his man. If he gets double teamed, then someone else has the chance of getting the qb. Third and long, bring the blitz. Lavar is the man for that down.

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I remember when I played football in high school and the coaches put me in as linebacker (and I was small at that!) Everytime I played linebacker, I always caused a fumble or forced the QB to throw when he didn't want to - which usually resulted in an INT. However, the coaches were always fussin' at me because I didn't play my assignment. I'm think, I thought I did something good for my team. I think it's more of regardless of the fact, do what you're told!

GW's defense works on team work - but sometimes to make a defense a top defense, you do have to have those special players who are big play type of guys.

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Lavar should be on the field thats the bottom line any other team out thier would kill to get a linebacker like that the skins are making a huge mistake he to good of an athlete to be watching.

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[QUOTE=tjmorgan]Exactly. Why do we not have packages in place just for Lavar. If he does not stay put in coverage, fine, don't use him in coverage. Put there are clearly times when we want to pressure the qb, and he is the best person on the team for that. He is a pure athlete, let him use those talents to beat his man. If he gets double teamed, then someone else has the chance of getting the qb. Third and long, bring the blitz. Lavar is the man for that down.[/QUOTE]
Williams essentially said that on the postgame, but there were no situations (specifically third and long) that fit the packages that Arrington was in on. Denver consistently had 3rd and 5 or 3rd and 8. Those are the exact situations where you need people to be in the right spots.. Let's assume he's in for as a pass rusher and he's supposed to take an inside charge and he thinks he reads something and goes outside to use his 'athletic ability' to beat his man to make a big play but the draw play goes right thru his gap for a first down or more. 3rd and 15, 3rd and 18 those plays don't happen. Those are the plays that kill a team..

[quote=Southpaw]
This is the dumbest comment I've ever heard about LaVar, and I'm not the least bit suprised it came from the mouth of Brian Mitchell. Someone please give me an example of a game that LaVar has lost for the Skins, because the only game I can remember LaVar being single handedly responsible for the outcome was the Carolina game a few years back when the Skins were 0-5 and looking at 0-6 and LaVar intercepted the ball and returned it for a touchdown. Winning the game, and basically single handedly turning the season around.

Everyone wants to discount the "conspiricy theories", but no one thinks that LaVar having a contract dispute recently and bad mouthing the medical staff in the offseason has anything to do with him not playing? Also, he can only void his final two years of his contract if he makes the Pro Bowl twice in the next two years, but hmmm... the three time pro bowler isn't playing good enough to start. I bet LaVar gets a lot more playing time around week 6 or 7, when he'll be unable to get the type of stats needed to make the Pro Bowl.
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A couple of years ago, when George Edwards was def. coord, I don't remember the exact games, but there were about 3-4 of them that freelancing on defense cost us victories.. I can remember one specific play in the Carolina game that year where Trotter's freelancing resulted in a long TD pass to the back out of the backfield.. Look, I am a HUGE Lavar fan, but I also defer to the coaches knowing what's best for the team moreso than I do.. I think last year against Cleveland he got beat by coming up on Garcia (playing outside the scheme) and Aaron Shea got behind him for the winning TD.. That may have been M. Washington, I don't remember, but I know it was a loss because of that..

Let me just point out the major hole in the contract/keeping him out of the lineup logic regarding Lavar.. Nobody on the coaching staff wants to lose games. If you had a player that you think will significantly improve your chances of winning games you don't play him because of spite? The Redskins aren't hurting for money, it will seriously impact the cap to trade or release him in the offseason, so they aren't holding him out for financial reasons. Leaving him on the bench [b] hurts [/b] his trade value so there's no motivation there. I just don't get how the Redskins benefit from sabotaging their season for spite as has been suggested..

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[QUOTE=Paintrain]Let me just point out the major hole in the contract/keeping him out of the lineup logic regarding Lavar.. Nobody on the coaching staff wants to lose games. If you had a player that you think will significantly improve your chances of winning games you don't play him because of spite? The Redskins aren't hurting for money, it will seriously impact the cap to trade or release him in the offseason, so they aren't holding him out for financial reasons. Leaving him on the bench [b]hurts [/b]his trade value so there's no motivation there. I just don't get how the Redskins benefit from sabotaging their season for spite as has been suggested..[/QUOTE]

I love voices of reason.

Thank you.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I love voices of reason.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]
I just don't understand how that's not crystal clear to everyone. :frusty:

Re: Did anyone else watch Comcast postgame? (Lavar Related)
 

All Im saying is that you should have you best players in, and LA is definetly a "game breaker" for the Skins. Maybe he would have had one of his bone jarring hits on Bell or Plummer yesterday and changed the tied of the game. Or maybe LA would have freelanced and let Bell run all over the team for TD's of 55 and 34 yards, wait our LBs did that without him. And stating that the D did great to hold the Broncos to 257 yards, doesnt make sense because they let them score 21 and win the game.

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there is no consiparcy, that is rediculous. i have only heard one person question williams in the manner described which is a hell A HELL of a lot less than it was for GIbbs. It is ok to wonder why Lavar isn't in there but i think that lavar is learning and will be in soon, even taylor after missing the offseason didn't start during the preseason but lavar was injured all last year.

what i don't understand is why holdman who has had less time in our defense could be starting. I don't care what anyone says holdman isn't a major player on our D, one could argue he is the least significant player on our D.

If GW wants to keep him out i am not gonna argue, i will be upset if this is lavar's role the whole year, i just don't think he is gonna be a bench warmer the entire season

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Now that's a good post. Levar makes big plays that can change the game around. All those GM's that claims he freelances will be the first ones to call when he becomes a free agent.

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[QUOTE=tjmorgan]I agree that Lavar tends to play out of position. But clearly we need a pass rush. No sacks yesterday. I can believe that there is not at least one package that he fits into where all he has to do is rush the qb. No need to fall into protection or stop the run, simply all out rush on the passer. I find it very hard to believe that he can't at least contribute that way. The man is a beast and to stop him on a blitz is tough. At least with him in the game, offenses have to think about him and maybe it allows someone else to get the qb. It is a shame not to get any sacks and have him sitting on the bench. Just my opionion.[/QUOTE]

But remember the sack leader for the Redskins in 2004 was Sean Springs. The reason being, GW doesn't have to send a LB to sack the QB. Instead send the CB's in and let the LB's bring the wood if the pass gets off. I'm a big Lavar fan as most of you. I've got the authenic jersey and the whole nine yards. But I'm not putting GW down because of a personal dilemma Lavar has in respecting and adjusting to the current coaching staff. If he doesn't want to play within the package set up for him he doesn't deserve to play. How can we speculate on Lavar would do if he were in the game more often when he hasn't made any impact when he has played? He's becoming a distraction and it's a sad commentary on his part.

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I'd just hate to see LaVar making a greater impact somewhere else and he did not get an opportunity to even make one here.

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I actually respect GW more for benching a superstar and saying he needs to get his ass to work.

but the thing that bothers me is, why didnt he have this problem last year? Lavar started early in the year. once he came back he played in a limited role, we assumed the injury limited his role.

Its hard to be critical of GW system. it works. but he needs to be more aggressive or atleast use the stars in a way that allows them to make big plays. taylor has been too quiet, he needs to be on the line more. washington doesnt get enough blitzes and arrington, well....

the defence cant give up big plays and not create any. the taylor hit in the dallas game was the only big play on defence all year.

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[QUOTE=jamf]the defence cant give up big plays and not create any. the taylor hit in the dallas game was the only big play on defence all year.[/QUOTE]

Actually he had a great hit on Anderson in the red-zone that sent him flying back. But hits like that can for sure make an impact if it was done at FedEx to get us all PUMPED for more!!!

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[QUOTE=Paintrain]I just don't understand how that's not crystal clear to everyone. :frusty:[/QUOTE]

It's not crystal clear to everyone because the numbers don't lie. All other starting linebackers have more than twice the tackles that Holdman has. Springs and even Carlos Rogers have more tackles than him. Walt Harris has one less than him and he's been injured for two games. What kind of linebacker has 2.5 tackles a game? And what's so good about being "in position" if your blocked on every play that comes your way?

All I'm saying is, opposing offenses fear Lavar. He's a disruptive force on the field and a playmaker. As I said before, if "freelancing" is the reason he's not on the field, why isn't Omar Stoutmire starting over Sean Taylor?

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[QUOTE=jamf]I actually respect GW more for benching a superstar and saying he needs to get his ass to work.

but the thing that bothers me is, why didnt he have this problem last year? Lavar started early in the year. once he came back he played in a limited role, we assumed the injury limited his role.

Its hard to be critical of GW system. it works. but he needs to be more aggressive or atleast use the stars in a way that allows them to make big plays. taylor has been too quiet, he needs to be on the line more. washington doesnt get enough blitzes and arrington, well....

the defence cant give up big plays and not create any. the taylor hit in the dallas game was the only big play on defence all year.[/QUOTE]

I don't think GW wants to use Lavar in the same way that we have become accustomed to knowing him. (Pass rusher). GW likes to send CB's who are faster than most LB's. I could understand why we didn't blitz in yesterday's game. GW watched Plummer struggle to throw against our defense and wanted Denver to resort to their ground attack which worked in their favor. Lavar has to keep his emotions in check which has been noticed by several people at Redskins park who said he and Coach Gibbs were in an heated argument. It doesn't look good. Greg Williams's philosophy in this case is right and just for this team which lacked discipline for many years. Its time for a change and at attitude of the player can help or hurt.

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Ugh, this is seriously turning in to Ramsey/Brunell all over again.

Trust and have faith folks.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Ugh, this is seriously turning in to Ramsey/Brunell all over again.

Trust and have faith folks.[/QUOTE]

I do have faith in Gregg Williams scheme, but it's hard to believe the words that come out of their mouth when the article in the Washington Times today has comments like this:

[b]"But Coach Joe has been trying to set a certain tone since he returned to Washington, and he'll go to any lengths to accomplish his objective. If he has to bench a three-time Pro Bowl linebacker, a $6 million-a-year man, to get his point across, he'll do it."[/b]

But yeah, LaVar not playing has everything to do with his on field performance and nothing to do with spite or ego...

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[QUOTE=Southpaw]I do have faith in Gregg Williams scheme, but it's hard to believe the words that come out of their mouth when the article in the Washington Times today has comments like this:

[b]"But Coach Joe has been trying to set a certain tone since he returned to Washington, and he'll go to any lengths to accomplish his objective. If he has to bench a three-time Pro Bowl linebacker, a $6 million-a-year man, to get his point across, he'll do it."[/b]

But yeah, LaVar not playing has everything to do with his on field performance and nothing to do with spite or ego...[/QUOTE]
Was that a quote from a coach or from a sportwriter? Consider the source.

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[QUOTE=Paintrain]Was that a quote from a coach or from a sportwriter? Consider the source.[/QUOTE]

I've heard that comment from several different sources including writers, analysts and one former coach. And this particular writer was actually praising Gibbs for his "I'm the Boss" approach.

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I'll trust Williams and his decisions and afterall, didn't Lavar cry that Gibbs and the Skins are rushing him along after his injury and showed no compassion.........

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[QUOTE=Southpaw]if "freelancing" is the reason he's not on the field, why isn't Omar Stoutmire starting over Sean Taylor?[/QUOTE]

Maybe it comes down to that. Maybe the Redskins believe they can only afford to have one "freelancer" on defense and the coaching staff has decided that they'd rather it be Sean Taylor than LaVar.

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[QUOTE=tjmorgan]I agree that Lavar tends to play out of position. But clearly we need a pass rush. No sacks yesterday. I can believe that there is not at least one package that he fits into where all he has to do is rush the qb. No need to fall into protection or stop the run, simply all out rush on the passer. I find it very hard to believe that he can't at least contribute that way. The man is a beast and to stop him on a blitz is tough. At least with him in the game, offenses have to think about him and maybe it allows someone else to get the qb. It is a shame not to get any sacks and have him sitting on the bench. Just my opionion.[/QUOTE]

Rushing the passer from the down lineman possition is the worst of him tallent.

Hey, we had other great defenses before Williams was here and they included LaVar.

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There are some who are convinced of the fact LaVar has never truly embraced JG and this coaching staff. How many remember the very first interview with LaVar after JG anounced he was returning to the team? He did not receive a ringing endorsement from LaVar. It was more or less "We have been loosing so much, and to the effect he was leary things would change." JG has had several serious heart to heart talks with LaVar and we as fans do not know the degree of those discussions. There has been so many things going on with him in the last eighteen months that I'm sure if we knew all the factors to be considered, maybe we would have a better understanding of why he is not playing. There are obviously many things to consider and the most important ones have not been printed. Joe Gibbs is the face of the Redskins now, and it could be that is not exactly to LaVar's liking.

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Redskins pregame show. Williams was interviewed. He dodged the LaVar question. Then, right after, they started talking about the Denver offense.

The very first words out of his mouth were, the coaching is amazing. The change the offense to fix the talent they have.

After I got my jaw off the ground, I game to post this.


Ahhh, hello. How can you admire that so much in another coach but you don't do it yourself. Actually, changing the plays to fit the offense is something Gibbs was know for also.

I think in some ways Williams doenst need as many stars for his system. Actually, do some extend, he is probably better without them.

Maybe its one of those things we in 2 years, everyone can know the D well enough that you can get more agreesive from there.

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[QUOTE=Southpaw]This is the dumbest comment I've ever heard about LaVar, and I'm not the least bit suprised it came from the mouth of Brian Mitchell. Someone please give me an example of a game that LaVar has lost for the Skins, because the only game I can remember LaVar being single handedly responsible for the outcome was the Carolina game a few years back when the Skins were 0-5 and looking at 0-6 and LaVar intercepted the ball and returned it for a touchdown. Winning the game, and basically single handedly turning the season around.

Everyone wants to discount the "conspiricy theories", but no one thinks that LaVar having a contract dispute recently and bad mouthing the medical staff in the offseason has anything to do with him not playing? Also, he can only void his final two years of his contract if he makes the Pro Bowl twice in the next two years, but hmmm... the three time pro bowler isn't playing good enough to start. I bet LaVar gets a lot more playing time around week 6 or 7, when he'll be unable to get the type of stats needed to make the Pro Bowl.

And everyone seems to think Holdman is a "solid" replacement. So far this season Marcus Washington has 28 tackles, Marshall has 24, and Holdman has [b]10[/b], with no sacks, picks, or forced fumbles. In the 2 games that Arrington played in Williams system last year, he had 15 tackles and a sack, but all of the sudden he doesn't know how to play football. If Greg Williams actually believes that LaVar overpursues and freelances too much, then why isn't Omar Stoutmire starting over Sean Taylor?[/QUOTE]


preech on brother, i'm with ya.

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Being the best athlete or most talented does not make you the best player. Gibbs is about hard work and discipline as is Greg Williams. You will never see a T.O. or Randy Moss on this team and they are the most talented and physically gifted at there position and how many rings do they have NONE. Now look at the Patriots they get hard working smart team players who do what they are assigned to do. No matter who goes down or gets hurt they can plug in anyone. Now I love Lavar when he hits people it makes me feel all warm inside. But we are a well disciplened defense and if he doesn't buy in to that and learn to play that way keep him on bench. I see people talk about us givin up those rushing yards to Denver well year in and year out Denver has one of the best rushing attacks in the league. Look at what happened to Coles one year our best offensive player then last year he did nothing I know he was hurt and we didnt throw deep but aot of Moss catches have been short but he runs after catch. A couple deep balls but most are short. Every move that has been made this year even though we questioned it has been proved right si far and I feel this will too.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I have no problem with LaVar riding the pine until he EARNS his playing time.

Apparently Gibbs is off the hook now with the fans and we've moved on to blasting Williams.

I find it laughable that some are now questioning GW... a man who many have championed to take over as head coach once Gibbs walks away. A man who has led many top ranked defenses in this league and probably knows a thing or two about personnel and who he feels comfortable working in his schemes.

If we should have learned one thing since Gibbs came back, it's that no individual player is above this team.

Why is LaVar exempt from this with some fans? It's no secret that he tends to play out of position and can get burnt because he doesn't stay true to the scheme.

The Monday Morning coach/GM routine is getting really tired, especially with people thinking they know how more than our coaching staff.[/QUOTE]
Why were there any posts after this? Anyone who doesn't see how right this entire post was fooling themselves.