(Merged Threads) LaVar Arrington and Gregg Williams
 

He could improve our special teams but he's being selfish. He's not a team player. I wish we could trade him.

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[QUOTE=Bozzy]He could improve our special teams but he's being selfish. He's not a team player. I wish we could trade him.[/QUOTE]

LMAO WHAT A JOKE... AND LET THOSE SCRUBS PLAY AHEAD OF HIM WILLIAMS IS A SISSY VINDICTIVE BASTARD HE'S NOT THE TEAM PLAYER..WHY SHOULD HE SHUT UP HE'S BEING TREATED WRONGLY...NONE OF THOSE GUYS STARTING AHEAD OF HIM CAN CARRY HIS JOCK STRAP TO BE WASHED.

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Well, we can't trade him, so we're going to have to find someway to use him. At this point, our defense has already given up 3 huge plays for TDs in the last two weeks. I'm beginning to believe that the tide is starting to shift toward our offense having to make the plays to win - which isn't a bad thing if the offense doesn't turn the ball over.

There was another great performance by the defensive genius and great linebackers
 

I was watching Marcus Washington and he was lined up trying to blitz and it was a pitiful effort. On the screen play, Holdman was there and he was blocked off. The others had no pursuit whatsoever with no toughness or speed.

I will admit, they were where they were supposed to be. They were there but they get blocked. These guys are no names with minimal talent. I am sorry for being negative, but I am upset by Greg Williams and his dumb ass pride. Who cares if the players are in their zones if they can't make plays?

The Offense had their best game of the year, so no fault there. I will not question Brunell or Gibbs. Brunell played great and well enough to win.
That vanilla defense relies on offenses making mistakes, but it has zero chance of forcing turnovers. And what happened to all of our pressure on opposing quarterbacks? I haven't seen any in a while.

It seems to me that offenses have figured out Wiliams' defense. Jimmy Johnson (of all people) said why can't Arrington get in the game and force some turnovers? Fasten your seatbelts, there is going to be a lot of calls and questioning of Williams (with regard to Arrington) this week. This is all so petty. Find a way to compromise and get that man in the game. It's so childish, vindictive, and sick.

Like last week, the Redskins could have easily won this game. Denver isn't a better team and KC sure isn't. We keep hearing turnovers will come..HELLO week 6 in the NFL where are they? If you don't see trouble, something is wrong. This team is too talented to be losing games like this; these LB's are pitiful scrubs.

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Maybe LaVar will learn to stop airing his dirty laundry in public. LaVar is constantly embarrassing both himself and the organization through the DC media.

Here's an idea LaVar -- play within the scheme, you're not above the system. While I'm not a huge LaVar fan he is a good player. I'd like to get him on the field, but not until he proves he's going to play it our way.

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[QUOTE=Bozzy]He could improve our special teams but he's being selfish. He's not a team player. I wish we could trade him.[/QUOTE]

You must have missed the parts of the game when He was in playing on the punt return team!!!!!! It aint Lavar's fault, GW has his head so far up his own ass!

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[QUOTE=Daseal]Maybe LaVar will learn to stop airing his dirty laundry in public. LaVar is constantly embarrassing both himself and the organization through the DC media.

Here's an idea LaVar -- play within the scheme, you're not above the system. While I'm not a huge LaVar fan he is a good player. I'd like to get him on the field, but not until he proves he's going to play it our way.[/QUOTE]
Yeah like the rest have proved anything ..well at least he has proved he can play..wtf have any of those other scrubs proved ...they want him to shut up an be a good little boy F_ck that why should he..LMAO what system hello watch i bet we are #7 or 8 this week the system is pathetic NO NAMES with no talet..play to ur strengths.....

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[QUOTE=WVU SkinsFan56]You must have missed the parts of the game when He was in playing on the punt return team!!!!!! It aint Lavar's fault, GW has his head so far up his own ass![/QUOTE]

I hate williams his head is his ass.... he's no genius explais why so he's been with so many teams..

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Maybe we should let Gregg Williams leave for a head coaching job...

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[QUOTE=railcon56@comcast.net]I hate williams his head is his ass.... he's no genius explais why so he's been with so many teams..[/QUOTE]


Let us put things back in perspective though, honestly, I dont' see Lavar being that much of a difference maker, but if the defense is going to give up big plays each week, then what does it hurt to put Arrington in there and see what he can do?

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]Let us put things back in perspective though, honestly, I dont' see Lavar being that much of a difference maker, but if the defense is going to give up big plays each week, then what does it hurt to put Arrington in there and see what he can do?[/QUOTE]
Right HOW CAN IT HURT??????????????

Re: Why can't LaVar shut up and play special teams?
 

OF course, then again, we're not seeing what happens in practice, we're not at team meetings, etc... so, it's easy for us to say Play Arrington! And....I'm not going to jump the gun and crap on Gregg Williams. I think he's done a great job with the defense, but it's been rough for our D the past two games.

Gotta love Williams
 

When Kelli Johnson asked him why not use Lavar, his response was "Can he play Corner? If he can't play corner, then who do you want me to take out from LB and D-line?"

I don't agree with G Williams though, cuz Lavar sure as hell could've done a better job than Philip Daniels at landing a shot on T. Green. There is something seriously personal that the coaching staff has against Lavar.

Re: Gotta love G Williams
 

[QUOTE=hurrykaine]When Kelli Johnson asked him why not use Lavar, his response was "Can he play Corner? If he can't play corner, then who do you want me to take out from LB and D-line?"

I don't agree with G Williams though, cuz Lavar sure as hell could've done a better job than Philip Daniels at landing a shot on T. Green. There is something seriously personal that the coaching staff has against Lavar.[/QUOTE]


I HATE HIS GUTS

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the d-line blows how could he say that

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[QUOTE=railcon56@comcast.net]I HATE HIS GUTS[/QUOTE]

What are you, 12? [I]I HATE HIS GUTS! HES SUCH A MEANIE![/I]

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[QUOTE=railcon56@comcast.net]I hate williams his head is his ass.... he's no genius explais why so he's been with so many teams..[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about? He spent over a decade with Houston/Tennessee, three years as head coach in Buffallo then here. That's not exactly "so many teams"

Re: Gotta love G Williams
 

[QUOTE=railcon56@comcast.net]I HATE HIS GUTS[/QUOTE]

Funny, he speaks highly of you.

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I dont care what GW does as long as he gets this god blesssed defense playing better somewhere. I dont care if its LaVar, sending them out on a sex boat, ANYTHING, this defense cant be giving up these types of plays.

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We need to get better by shutting out the niners. get the confidence back. win 28-3 or 0 something.

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[QUOTE=hurrykaine]There is something seriously personal that the coaching staff has against Lavar.[/QUOTE]

PISSING MATCH! plain and simple.

I am convinced he will have no choice but to put in Lavar ... very soon.

Re: Why can't LaVar shut up and play special teams?
 

In Gibbs Pressconference when someone asked about Lavar, Gibbs said " I've already updated everyone on that and my thoughts."


Seriously, why dont we just inactivate him and get it overwith. Its clear to me that they have some type of personal bias against Arrington, which could verywell be warrented.

Re: There was another Great performance by the Defensive genius and great LB's
 

i have learned not to doubt gibbs and williams...they'll fix it

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711]I dont care what GW does as long as he gets this god blesssed defense playing better somewhere. I dont care if its LaVar, sending them out on a sex boat, ANYTHING, this defense cant be giving up these types of plays.[/QUOTE]

That would be great if the defense starts to play better and in some post-game conference Gibbs says "Well Mr. Snyder rented a sex boat for the players a few back..."

Re: Gotta love G Williams
 

I have to admit the more and more it unravels with poor play by the D and mistakes missed tackles by starters, giving up big plays, no turnovers, and I know my attention is on it, but watching the game Holdman can not get off a block and they are killing us on the outside in the past 3 games. It is missed tackles but if you are getting blown out by blockers that is just as bad as missing the tackle. To many excuses, I am tired of hearing Lavar is not ready and getting better evidently some of the starters need to improve.

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It is kind of funny though, people are saying they hate Gregg Williams and such. I am concerned about our defense giving up some big plays - that needs to be fixed! However, I'm not going to go so far as to crap on Gregg Williams. If the defense continues with a downward spiral, then I'll pile on - but GW is much too good of a defensive coordinator to allow that to happen.

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At this point it is inevitable that LaVar will be inactivated soon. At least then the Skins can sign a kickoff specialist since Novak cannot get his kickoffs to the opps 10 yard line.
I do think there were some instances in this game that a sideline to sideline LB would have helped...

Re: There was another great performance by the defensive genius and great linebackers
 

i don't care we can't talk shit about williams

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[QUOTE=railcon56@comcast.net]Yeah like the rest have proved anything ..well at least he has proved he can play..wtf have any of those other scrubs proved ...they want him to shut up an be a good little boy F_ck that why should he..LMAO what system hello watch i bet we are #7 or 8 this week the system is pathetic NO NAMES with no talet..play to ur strengths.....[/QUOTE]
man cuz the #7 or 8 defense is so bad
williams and gibbs know a lot more about whats going on than you ever will
we lost this game because of 3 fumbles, not because of our defense

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[QUOTE=Daseal]Maybe LaVar will learn to stop airing his dirty laundry in public. LaVar is constantly embarrassing both himself and the organization through the DC media.

Here's an idea LaVar -- play within the scheme, you're not above the system. While I'm not a huge LaVar fan he is a good player. I'd like to get him on the field, but not until he proves he's going to play it our way.[/QUOTE]

The more and more I hear the coaches talk and tiptoe around the subject, I think he has more reason to air his dirty laundry he is just as confused as the fans are. I have been very conservative with this situation, but 0 plays again and a couple on special teams. We had numerous 3rd and longs which at the beginning was his speciality and the packages that the coaches said he was in. GW says who am I supposed to take out Phillip Daniels or Renaldo Wynn. I have to say HELL yeah they are putting no pressure on the QB in those situations. The coaches are just driving him into the ground and making it sound like he is a damn dirtbag 0 plays. He is better than that.

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While I agree the turnover battle is the reason why we lost the game--it highlights the fact that we need some sort of disruptive type player on defense (besides Taylor) that can cause turnovers.
I think our defense is fundamentally sound but does not necessarily strike FEAR in the hearts of offensive coordinators. I mean are there any players on our defense that offensive coordinators need to gameplan against? Other than Taylor?

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Even though this is a plug in play type of defense, it does take a couple special players to make a difference.

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Sorry i shouldn't have said i hated his guts ... too emotional..it was just seeing those LB's get pushed around... it was horrible...and it's personal..it's obviously personal... a coach is supposed to put his feelings aside and do whats best for the team ..like him or not lavar has talents ...

Re: Gotta love G Williams
 

[QUOTE=TAFKAS]That would be great if the defense starts to play better and in some post-game conference Gibbs says "Well Mr. Snyder rented a sex boat for the players a few back..."[/QUOTE]
Lmao i dont always agree with ur ass but you always make me laff ty

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[QUOTE=Bozzy]He could improve our special teams but he's being selfish. He's not a team player. I wish we could trade him.[/QUOTE]

I thought he has always said he would play ST's. He said anything to get on the field...

This guy is/was the face of the Redskins. He is in the public eye. When people ask him why he isn't playing, what is he supposed to say.

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Lavar has got to be just as confused as we are, maybe he is telling the truth with I am not sure what I need to do to get in the game. Post game comments by GW have me still lost as hell, because players are getting beat so the discipline card or best players card is running out why he is not playing. Gibbs says you can help this team, I have to ask how, when you do not get on the field? Gibbs is out of this he says he trust what the defense coaches are doing, but GW is sounding more and more ignorant when he says week after week he is getting better, but sees less and less playing time. I know he is a great coach and I am not questioning that, but if he is not going to play a down and is playing that bad he should not even be a back up and deactivated and a linebacker who can at least get in some type of rotation and contribute and end this damn mess with why is our most athletic player on the bench and can't be plugged in during 3rd and longs like you said are his packages. I am sure Holdman is coming out who is going in to give him a breather when he is tired?

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Hell, put him in a running back. See if he can hang on to the ball.

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You know what I'm gonna hate... if we never give arrington the opportunity to play, and he goes to denver, or dallas, or somewhere like that. We once again will look like the biggest bunch of douchebags in the league, cause he'll go to the freaking hall of fame.

fuck gregg williams
 

[size=6][size=3]man right know im[/size] [/size][size=3]starting to hate gregg williams because he hasnt even gaven lavar a shot.Man im sorry to say i love the redskins but damn our 3 linebackers suck at pass rushing the qb its like not even having the 3,rushing the qb.What im saying is that dam gregg williams give lavar a shot and if hes not the same the first game give him fucking time damn hes not gonna 2 be bac to normal the 1rst game it takes time.On top of the linebackers rushing the qb why cant we stop that one [size=6]BIG[/size] running play that always kills us the past 2 games.Gregg Williams i give u respect because of what u did to our defense but stop being the one guy who wants to prove to peaple u dont need lavar and just put him in there dam!!!!!!!!![/size]

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This whole think with LA is really sickening. The defense is struggling right now and there's no way you can argue that he wouldn't help the team if he were allowed to play. We aren't getting to the QB and we aren't causing fumbles. And the coaches want us to believe that LA can't contribute positively to either problem?

I really am beginning to think this whole thing has become somewhat of an ego struggle between LA and the defensive coaches. Shame on them both, but more shame on the coaches because they're supposed to be making decisions in the team's best interests and, in this case, I definitely do not believe that they are.

It's a disgrace to see LA sitting on the bench at every game. And I'm tired of hearing the lame excuses that we get each week. Do they really think the fans are so ignorant as to believe the **** that they are feeding us as to why he isn't playing?