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OK, I for one am not going to let this get me too down. I figured looking at the schedule, we could do 4-2 or 3-3 after 6 games. That would give us a positive going into the last 10 games, all of which figure to be tough. We have SF next week and if we aren't 4-2 by the end of next Sunday, then maybe we don't deserve to go to the playoffs.

However, what are your opinions on what we need now and in the draft?

I think:
Now - We need Arrington to suck it up, do as the coach wants and contribute. Holdman can't cut it as a starter. We also need our secondary to get healthy, or pick up another CB - I like Jimoh's attitude and commitment, but we can't rely on him like we can Springs. We need pass rush from somewhere. If it's not Arrington, then we have to see if we can change something on the DL - is there anyone in FA or possibly available in a trade?

Draft - regardless of this years results, we need upgrades at DE, LT, LG and LB. I just can't see Samuels and Dockery anchoring the left side of the line much longer. Maybe a better LG will improve Samuels? We must look for 2 pass rush specialists in the draft, 1 won't be enough. I also think we need a stand out MLB and, assuming Arrington is gone, a replacement WLB.

Your thoughts?

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can we draft turnovers? because that is what we need.

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer]can we draft turnovers? because that is what we need.[/QUOTE]
and some good calls by the refs

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What we need is to score a god damn TDs in the redzone. It's like this team freezes when they get down there and something awful usually happens.

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Samuels has played very well this year. KCs DE Allen must be on steroids or something. And Dockery is solid for the money he's paid. Possibly, we should've drafted two CBs in this past draft. As most of the rookie corners are proving their worth right now. I thought that we should've drafted a DT/DE and that Marshall added solid depth to our OLB corps but he's still a bit tenative in stopping the run that coming right at him. And WR? A big guy would help us.

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We need Arrington to be more involved on the field, plain and simple. G William's scheme is brilliant, but beyond a point, you need both scheme and playmaking talent to win

Just ask one of the greatest Defensive geniuses - Bill Belichik - look at the way Denver and San Diego are slicing through his depleted defense. Denver lit up New England for almost 200 yards in a quarter. One quarter!!! The skins played Denver tight - this is a good Skins team - we need better run blocking, pass protection, and pass rush to be more successful.

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id like to see lavar in the field more, we need to force more fumlbes, get pressure on the qb.

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Honestly, I'm going to say that basically the luck we've had the first 3 games is now running out. I mean SHIT, any fumble we force bounces right back into the fumber's hands. A big play or two with our turnovers is what caused this loss. We were fairly disciplined penaltly-wise. Jimoh sucks ass. However, again we owned both sides of the ball.

Turnovers AGAIN the difference in this ball game.

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not sure what the defense needs, maybe just some healthy players but does anyone think we need another big time reciever?Santana cant do it all himself although he,s trying.We especially need 1 inside the redzone where moss,s speed is negated.His catches for the most part are outside the 20.

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Our best offensive performances (aside from the Turnovers) have come in our two losses. This was different from past years (especially 2003).

We can cut down on TOs and develop better pass protection. The defense needs Springs and Arrington back.

My one concern is the fact that we are not able to run the ball. Damn it! Surely our passing game is getting enough respect now so that our running game can be more effective.

We are just weeks away from a Portis implosion - the guy is looking increasingly frustrated at the end of each game. The counter trey sucks balls.

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I think we need someone else coming out of Miami. An entire team of Santana Moss. All short, but physical speedsters who run wide open all the time.

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We are just weeks away from a Portis implosion - the guy is looking increasingly frustrated at the end of each game. The counter trey sucks balls.



I just hope the whole team doesnt implode

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Ughhh, another week of Arrington talk.

:doh:

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[QUOTE=canthetuna]I think we need someone else coming out of Miami. An entire team of Santana Moss. All short, but physical speedsters who run wide open all the time.[/QUOTE]


Sounds like a great idea ;)

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We're gonna need another bye week.

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i say we draft another santana moss

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Ughhh, another week of Arrington talk.

:doh:[/QUOTE]

a lot of talk at that. how much are we gonna hear about how many turnovers lavar could have caused

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Maybe you guys are right. As I think about the would've been sack on Green where every WSH defender crawled all over Green but couldn't bring him down or force him to fumble. LA isn't the sound, wrap up tackler either but, he has proven that he can blow up the ball carrier. Coach Williams hates the fact that he blows assignments too.

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yes we need some help on both sides of the ball, but would we actually be talking about what we need if we were winning? I mean obviously we should be 5-0!! we have beat ourselves these last 2 games and the refs havent been kind to us either. we have to hold on to the ball and SCORE TD'S when we get in the redzone!! they scored 10 off of turnovers i believe which means if we win 21-18 most likely 35 or 27-18 because we were deep on their side of the field on 2 of the turnovers. we will be 4-2 after next week going into Giants stadium. I said going into this game 2 guys we had to key on was Dante Hall and Tony G and we did that. I knew we could contain Holmes and Johnson running the ball, but due to poor tackling Holmes got loose on a screen pass. Im not mad just disappointed more then anything because once again we shot ourselves in the foot. Sure is depressing when you lose games like this and you know you should have won. we're the fans and we feel like this. I can imagine what some of the players are feling.

coooooooooley!!

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse]OK, I for one am not going to let this get me too down. I figured looking at the schedule, we could do 4-2 or 3-3 after 6 games. That would give us a positive going into the last 10 games, all of which figure to be tough. We have SF next week and if we aren't 4-2 by the end of next Sunday, then maybe we don't deserve to go to the playoffs.

However, what are your opinions on what we need now and in the draft?

I think:
Now - We need Arrington to suck it up, do as the coach wants and contribute. Holdman can't cut it as a starter. We also need our secondary to get healthy, or pick up another CB - I like Jimoh's attitude and commitment, but we can't rely on him like we can Springs. We need pass rush from somewhere. If it's not Arrington, then we have to see if we can change something on the DL - is there anyone in FA or possibly available in a trade?

Draft - regardless of this years results, we need upgrades at DE, LT, LG and LB. I just can't see Samuels and Dockery anchoring the left side of the line much longer. Maybe a better LG will improve Samuels? We must look for 2 pass rush specialists in the draft, 1 won't be enough. I also think we need a stand out MLB and, assuming Arrington is gone, a replacement WLB.

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you think we need o-line help after one bad game? hahaha that has to be the stupidest argument after one game. better yet, let's release all our defensive starters because they give up a big play. speaking of which, i think santana moss needs to be cut, did you see him drop that ball during the game? all we need to get in the draft is a pass rusher, you don't even know what it felt like to watch five guys all have chances to sack trent green and he manages to get free and throw the ball away.

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We need better play calling especially with our running game which is abysmal. I asking myself every week, why isn't Portis getting the ball on the pitch out rather than wasting downs running in the middle of a wall. He's banged up and its starting to show. Next we need to rotate our RB's more often, Broughton was activated and didn't get any carries. Lastly we need Sean Springs to get back as soon as possible. I'm not convinced that Carlos Rodgers was worth a first round draft pick. He's out of position a lot. Just my thoughts on what we need.

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Our number one priority has to be DL. We have some workmanlike (average) players along the D line with no one who can actually get after anybody, and it shows when we really need to bring some pressure. If we could bring some heat without blitzing, we could be a stout D with all our starters in place.

While I like Portis as a runner, I'm not convinced he's the ideal type back for the offence we run, neither do we utilize him in a way I feel he could be most effective. Counter Trey, 40 & 50 gut are not the kind of plays Portis will make a living off. John Riggins, Gerald Riggs, and George Rogers were the perfect type backs for that type offence, but Portis is absolutely not.

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]We need better play calling especially with our running game which is abysmal. I asking myself every week, why isn't Portis getting the ball on the pitch out rather than wasting downs running in the middle of a wall. He's banged up and its starting to show. Next we need to rotate our RB's more often, Broughton was activated and didn't get any carries. Lastly we need Sean Springs to get back as soon as possible. I'm not convinced that Carlos Rodgers was worth a first round draft pick. He's out of position a lot. Just my thoughts on what we need.[/QUOTE]


I respect your opinion! I just believe our playcalling is right on the money. We're almost moving the ball at will! We've been rotating our running backs about as much as we possibly can. We couldn't get Betts in there, because he was injuried. Broughton has to work his way into the system. Right now, I would much rather have Betts or Cartwright (despite the fumble,) relieving Portis than Nemo. However, I think in time, Nemo will become our missing ingredient for the short yardage goal line plays.

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Also, in Rock's defense, the helmet was laid RIGHT on the ball. It was a good hit, nothing more.

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A RB that can score TDs. Its pathetic that by this point in the season this team has zero rushing TDs.

Also a red zone O that can score. If this team does not score on long plays it just wont score.

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The fact is our line lacks inside power or unity on short yardage running plays.they get no movement at all on those plays. i am just not sold on dockery, if we can get fonoti from the chargers cheap, get him.dockery reacts to contact, he doesn't intiate it. a man thaqt big should impose his will on everyone.he lacks the mean streak or something the left side should be our bread and butter for short yardage. but they get no movement.turnovers turnover turnovers. where's ours? don't they have to share?

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In reply to a few points raised in reply to mine and others posts:

Dockery - Not doing a good enough job. As 56fan says, he is big enough and strong enough to move people, but he doesn't. Maybe he will get it, maybe he won't, but I'd be looking in the draft next year for depth at the least.

Rogers - He is still a rookie. He will make and learn from mistakes this year. From the little I have seen he looks more developed than Smoot was at the same stage.

Portis - Maybe he isn't the right back for this O, but to be honest we aren't going to get anyone better unless we draft the next Ladanian Tomlinson in the 06 draft. And running back is not a priority. With better blocking, I bet we'd see a damned sight more production.

DL - I don't blame anyone within the organisation, but I can't help wondering why we haven't found a quality pass rusher. The Eagles, Falcons and Colts all needed one and found one. We need one, but we haven't even appeared to try and get one.

Playcalling - from week 3 on, we have been able to move the ball. However, I don't believe the red zone play calling has been good enough. We are fine passing for short TD's, but we should be able to run the ball in from anywhere inside the 20. Betts should be pounded between the tackles and setting up a PA or outside run. We seem to me to be trying to finesse our way into the EZ too often.

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A disruptive DE would go a long way for our defense. We wouldn't have to blitz as often in order to get pressure on the QB. That would leave more defenders in the secondary to potentially bring down a few more interceptions. We saw what Jared Allen did to us, he basically won the game by himself by forcing all those fumbles.

We really need a blocking TE who can just bulldoze. We're lacking that big time.

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But any DE we get would need to also be as strong against the run as Wynn and Daniels are. Stopping the run is priority 1.

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What we need right now is a Home Game vs a team that had 5 turnovers in its last game.....

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Who is still the #9 runner even though his team had a by week, The # 2 RB for teams that have played 5 games? on pace for over 1400 yards? has a 4.3 YPC? is a great at picking up the blitz so his team can throw deep?

Yup. It is Portis. I think we are getting great production from him. I think we need to blow people off the ball inside the 10. We do that Portis scores...alot.

I think it will start to pick up again. Soon.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]But any DE we get would need to also be as strong against the run as Wynn and Daniels are. Stopping the run is priority 1.[/QUOTE]

I am sick and damn tired of hearing how great Daniels and Wynn are at stopping the run. Most of the rushing yardage opponents have gained this year have come around the ends. So despite the yearly pass these two bozos get because they’re such good run defenders appears to be debatable. Guess what folks, [U]they’re supposed to get to the quarterback, too[/U]. And so far this season, neither of them have been able to do it ONCE. The front office is equally to blame because it’s as if they simply write off any notion of the starting d-ends being able to apply pressure to the quarterback. AnonEmouse had it dead on – other teams with deficiencies in this area recognize how pivotal this is to the defense, and they do something to rectify it. Our team doesn’t even TRY to find a pass rushing threat.

Let me say it once again, in case you missed it: Philip Daniels and Renaldo Wynn have [B]ZERO[/B] sacks through five games this year.

Maybe it’s just me, but that’s pretty pathetic. And sooner or later, it’s going start costing us more games.

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What we need is two LB's Washington holds down the fort, he is all over the field. But Marshall and Holdman just arent cutting it. Those huge gains the past two weeks are a result of missed tackles or the LBs being able to shake off a block. If they are not going to play Lavar, then sit him for the year and bring another LB or a pass rush specialist, there has to be one out there, better than we have. for christs sake some no-named guy named Jared Allen kicked the crap out of our O-line and QB, not to mention poped the rock from rock. The sky is not falling, but why not try to fix the problem now, every team from now on knows how to exploit our D unless we can fix it.