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Bozzy 11-20-2005 04:20 PM

Brunell sucks
 
discuss

itvnetop 11-20-2005 04:23 PM

Re: brunell sucks
 
he didn't play that well today, but neither did the offense in general. the O-Line didn't do their job, the backs weren't really picking up the blitz, and the the receivers weren't getting separation. the raiders' D should not look this good, so we shouldn't put it all on brunell.

BigSKINBauer 11-20-2005 04:23 PM

Re: brunell sucks
 
These the sky is fucking falling threads suck

VTSkins897 11-20-2005 04:24 PM

Re: brunell sucks
 
dont be a moron. the redskins suck. its all good though; next yr is our year!!!

Bozzy 11-20-2005 04:25 PM

Re: brunell sucks
 
Brunell was overthrowing and underthrowing WRs all day.

Not many drops, Brunell just blew it.

Southpaw 11-20-2005 04:28 PM

Re: brunell sucks
 
Brunell played like an old, backup quarterback, oh wait... Anyway, his bag of tricks is empty. I wouldn't go so far as to say he sucks, but I won't be expecting him to win us anymore games.


And the O line was horrible today too. Why did someone come free EVERY time the Raiders blitzed???:banghead:

Big C 11-20-2005 04:29 PM

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he looked like the brunell of last year, couldnt move the ball at all the second half

Bozzy 11-20-2005 04:29 PM

Re: brunell sucks
 
everytime he went deep for Moss it was a post. so fucking predictable.

Gmanc711 11-20-2005 04:30 PM

Re: brunell sucks
 
Brunell didnt just play bad, he made stupid STUPID decisions. The next time I see them run that streak to Jacobs, I'm going to kill myself. Whatever. I know were only 5-5, but I'm pretty much numb already.

Same old skins, different year.

funandgunner 11-20-2005 04:37 PM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
the offensive line sucks.

skinsguy 11-20-2005 04:41 PM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
Have no idea why my post was deleted, but I'll say it again. No. Brunell does not suck.

skinsguy 11-20-2005 04:41 PM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
Sorry, my mistake. Wrong thread....LOL!!!!!

mooby 11-20-2005 04:43 PM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
Brunell played like he played last year. But this game wasn't his fault. Part of the blame goes to him, but it's not all his fault. He is still a good quarterback, and he's definitely better than Patrick Ramsey. We can't keep depending on him to win games on last minute drives. He can't do that on a consistent basis.

RedskinRat 11-20-2005 04:44 PM

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Not with the sketchy line play. They don't pick up blocks. How would you like to be back there passing?

jdlea 11-20-2005 04:47 PM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
If Joe Gibbs would coach 4 quarters of football or if Mark would play 4 quarters of football, we wouldn't need to try to win on last minute possessions. I don't see why it is so difficult for this team to play agressiver for 4 quarters. They get a small lead and then try to sit on it. The Skins haven't really tried to put anyone but the Niners away this year. That's why they're .500

BleedBurgundy 11-20-2005 04:49 PM

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I had to watch the Steelers and Ravens today. Maddox and Boller SUCK, Brunell is average. I think we all started hoping he was great after we saw the improvement from last year to this year. He's better but he's not above average.

itvnetop 11-20-2005 04:51 PM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
a big reason for his early season success was santana moss... now that defenses are keying in, there's no other wideout to step up (aside from the occasional cooley pass).

skinsguy 11-20-2005 04:51 PM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
This game is on everybody. Don't just single it out on the quarterback or the coach. The offensive line can't protect consistantly, our secondary gets burned consistantly, we can't create the turnovers except when we turn the ball over, Gibbs couldn't come up with the right game plan, Brunell played poorly,etc.....this was a complete team loss.

SmootSmack 11-20-2005 04:56 PM

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[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy]I had to watch the Steelers and Ravens today. Maddox and Boller SUCK, Brunell is average. I think we all started hoping he was great after we saw the improvement from last year to this year. He's better but he's not above average.[/QUOTE]

It's amazing how whenever Maddox plays now, the Steelers lose. That guy is just bad luck. Even when he plays decent they still lose.

jrocx69 11-20-2005 05:17 PM

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The trenches is where we lose every game. O-line isnt very good in pass protection and we cannot get any pressure on the qb GAME IN AND GAME OUT... OVER AND OVER AND OVER the opposing qbs are torching us. they have time to pick their ass and scratch their nuts before every pass, its getting a bit rediculous.

SUNRA 11-20-2005 05:27 PM

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I see you didn't have enough balls to post a thread about how Portis has fucked this team over by his inconsistent play today. He fumbled 2 balls while Brunell did not. No INT's either.

The reason a thread like this is ridiculous after this loss reveals how alot of you have selective amnesia because you watched Brunell make spectacular throws all year, in the pocket or while scrambling and you cheered your asses off. Let me remind you Brunell was the QB who threw the ball to every player who has scored this year. No anyone better? Brunell lead the Redskins to 4 TD's last week only to fail in cleaning up the shit that our defense has been giving up all season.

Wasn't that 28 points against the 1# defense in the league? Well they weren't 1# after last week.

djnemo65 11-20-2005 05:48 PM

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Whether or not Brunell sucks is really irrelevant. The more apt question is would we have been as or more succesful this year with Ramsey in there. The answer to that my friends is - NO!!!!

Brunell has had a remarkable probowl caliber year, and one game does nothing to change that. This is coming from someone who didn't support Gibbs at all on Brunell. I was wrong, Gibbs was right, and Brunell's heart is our only hope of getting in the playoffs this year.

MTK 11-20-2005 06:58 PM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
Another thread hardly worth starting.

jdlea 11-20-2005 07:00 PM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
[QUOTE=SUNRA]I see you didn't have enough balls to post a thread about how Portis has fucked this team over by his inconsistent play today. He fumbled 2 balls while Brunell did not. No INT's either.

The reason a thread like this is ridiculous after this loss reveals how alot of you have selective amnesia because you watched Brunell make spectacular throws all year, in the pocket or while scrambling and you cheered your asses off. Let me remind you Brunell was the QB who threw the ball to every player who has scored this year. No anyone better? Brunell lead the Redskins to 4 TD's last week only to fail in cleaning up the shit that our defense has been giving up all season.

Wasn't that 28 points against the 1# defense in the league? Well they weren't 1# after last week.[/QUOTE]

The same team Portis ran for 144 yards on, averaging 6.3 yards per carry?

Gmanc711 11-20-2005 07:01 PM

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I will say one thing, that pissed me off last week, pisses me off this week and i've seen it from Brunell before. When it is fourth and the game... I dont care if you dont have a single guy blocking for you, you have to...HAVE TO put the ball somewhere in play. You cant take a sack, you cant throw it away. At worst you have to throw the ball up for grabs on the other side of first down marker. Thats the only thing I'm REALLY pissed at Brunell for doing, because he's done it two striaght weeks. Everything else was a team effort, and so was that last play, but I put it on him for not giving us a chance there.

railcon56 11-20-2005 07:07 PM

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he looked like last year he forced ball over threw..... in the last minute he had plenty of poeple open he missed every one of them ...i was never on his bandwagon he sux

skinsguy 11-20-2005 07:13 PM

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Who was open in that last minute?

SUNRA 11-20-2005 07:30 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]Who was open in that last minute?[/QUOTE]

Not one single person. The same way it was for 60 minutes. Some people exagerate the facts to make their point credible. Fortunately, we ask questions on this thread.

FirstandTen 11-20-2005 07:50 PM

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Brunell does not suck.. Did u think he sucked last week? Did he suck when he went head first to get the 1st down? This thread sucks!! I could make a million more points but its not worth it. If you think he sucks after one bad game that wasn't entirely his fault then you have no idea what your talking about anyway.

Misterbillysells 11-20-2005 07:55 PM

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dont you think some of those overthrows had to do with taylor lacking the speed that patten has...how many times did he over throw jacobs...brunnel doesnt suck he just has to adjust to the new personnel

htownskinfan 11-20-2005 07:56 PM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
off and def line sucked,bottom line,anything else is mute,if we had M Vick it might have made a difference being able to scramble away from the pressure

TheMalcolmConnection 11-20-2005 07:59 PM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
But if we had Mike Vick we also might not make anywhere NEAR the amount of completions that we do right now.

hurrykaine 11-20-2005 08:29 PM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
This thread should have read: "Robert Royal Sucks". All the blind side sacks come because Robert Royal sucks as a blocker. Jansens play has dropped off a bit too, but attribute that to injury.

Sure targets like Cooley have become fumble prone now. Cooley has to be playing hurt. Portis' fumbles were inexcusable today. I realized the offense came out flat today right in the first quarter when our drives stalled at midfield. We weren't able to pick up third and shorts against the Raiders D? How does this team not come out ready to play in a home game after a loss?! Coaching staff equally to blame for this dismal outing.

Longtimefan 11-20-2005 08:57 PM

Re: brunell sucks
 
[QUOTE=itvnetop]he didn't play that well today, but neither did the offense in general. the O-Line didn't do their job, the backs weren't really picking up the blitz, and the the receivers weren't getting separation. the raiders' D should not look this good, so we shouldn't put it all on brunell.[/QUOTE]


You're right, but for some reason at times our offense looks very simular to last year. There has to be a serious problem when you max protect and your QB still does not have time to attempt a completion. However I still can't imagine our passing game gaining any steam when we only use two receivers in most patterns. Teams have found ways to limit Moss and for some reason the coaches haven't found a counter.

ST21 11-21-2005 03:10 AM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
[QUOTE=jdlea]The same team Portis ran for 144 yards on, averaging 6.3 yards per carry?[/QUOTE]

Thats a good one....nice comeback

irish 11-21-2005 08:48 AM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
MB is the least of the O's problems. The line line could not protect him yesterday and when he did have time to throw he only has 1 receiver thats a threat. When that receiver is shut down their is no passing game.

#56fanatic 11-21-2005 08:57 AM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
What is wrong with you people. Look I was on the wagon last year calling for Brunells head. But no way are we 5-5 without him. To say Brunell suck is rediculous. The last two games we lost fall on the coaches, both offensive and defensive. Brunell has made a tremendous amount of plays this year for this team. Portis fumbles twice yesterday, but the fact is we are winning late in the game and should have been running the ball, not throwing deep ball after deep ball down the sideline to our #4 receiver. Brunell does not make the calls, and be glad the throws were a little off, because if not the would have been picked. Brunell is putting ball where only the receiver can make plays. If the receiver cant, then the ball is thrown out of bounds. Brunell has by far, been the MVP of this team so far this season, as well as moss.

Its the coaches job to find or figure out a way to get somebody else open if Moss is getting doubled all day. This crap of not having any receiver is just that, crap. They play in the NFL, they cant be that bad to where they cant catch a damn ball. Portis should have had the ball late in the game and he didn't. thats what it comes down to. Bad play calling. on both sides of the ball.

Twilbert07 11-21-2005 08:59 AM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
The bottom line is that Brunell has played some good games and some bad games this season. Either way, though, Gibbs' decision to make him the starter means we start all over at the QB season next season or in 2007. Therefore, we're in for a couple more .500 seasons.

Skinnydo 11-21-2005 09:27 AM

Re: Brunell sucks
 
I predict the Skins will win-out and Brunell will be the MAN! At 11-5 the Skins will not only be in the playoff, but will win the Super Bowl!!! Brunell will be the most valuable player and will, of course, be in the Pro-Bowl and on his way to the Hall of Fame. Whatever you do, do NOT sell Brunell and the Skins short!

Southpaw 11-21-2005 09:37 AM

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[QUOTE=Skinnydo]I predict the Skins will win-out and Brunell will be the MAN! At 11-5 the Skins will not only be in the playoff, but will win the Super Bowl!!! Brunell will be the most valuable player and will, of course, be in the Pro-Bowl and on his way to the Hall of Fame. Whatever you do, do NOT sell Brunell and the Skins short![/QUOTE]

Wow... this has to be a joke.


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