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-anyone know what their post apocalyptic plans are for 2006? Cut Casserly, and the rest? Pick up Steve M. since the lions cut him? They should be in good shape to get Reggie Bush.

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I can't understand how the Texans have gotten so bad. I always thought they were one step away from being a really good team (like Cincy being so close and then getting there this year.) I doubt Casserly would be welcomed back to Washington though.

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Although I never thought Dom Capers was a great coach. I figured he would build a solid team that would be contending by now. I'm trying to get a line on Charlie Casserly. I am not sure he would be welcome (as you said). I am not sure we would want him back. After all what part has he played in this fiasco? I would love to know what Joe is thinking??????

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They have a good running back in domanik davis so maybe they'll get reggie bush and trade him for a o-lineman and maybe a couple picks?

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Am I the only person in the world that feels Reggie Bush is terribly overrated? He's behind an amazing USC line, he's kinda small. I simply don't see him being a great NFL product, but who knows!

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I think he's gonna be a very good back. He's small, but he runs pretty strong, he looks like he's at a different speed than everyone and he's pretty shifty. I love watching him at USC, I hope he ends up somewhere that he can be great.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]Am I the only person in the world that feels Reggie Bush is terribly overrated? He's behind an amazing USC line, he's kinda small. I simply don't see him being a great NFL product, but who knows![/QUOTE]

There is probably some truth in that....but he is a good player who may not be as good in the nfl as he is in college. Now, if we wanna get into the hesiman debate....bush hands down. young has played against no one...and whenever he plays someone actually good, his team bails him out. and i don't think young will be too good in the nfl either. I do think we'll be hearing matt leinart's name in the pros quite a bit though.

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He's 200lbs and he probably has some room for some extra weight without sacrificing his speed and quickness. He's lightening in a bottle, I can't wait to see what he does in the pros.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]Am I the only person in the world that feels Reggie Bush is terribly overrated? He's behind an amazing USC line, he's kinda small. I simply don't see him being a great NFL product, but who knows![/QUOTE]
Have you watched him much? He is incredible. He is a faster, quicker, more balanced Brian Westbrook who actually understands how to run the ball. He is on the same level as Barry Sanders coming out of college. He is that good.

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Seriously anyone questioning his potential hasn't seen him enough. I am usually not someone to gush over a player but Bush is THE REAL DEAL. Bush is the best back to come out college since Barry hands down. It is not even close. He could make LT look like some second stringer.
He does everything great. He can catch, make cuts, hell he even seems to block decently for a featured college back. And he does all this faster than anyone on the field. He is amazing. I wish we had first pick in the draft because we could a hell of a lot for him or CP.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]Am I the only person in the world that feels Reggie Bush is terribly overrated? He's behind an amazing USC line, he's kinda small. I simply don't see him being a great NFL product, but who knows![/QUOTE]

YOU may be right! Heisman Guys are notorious for ???????????

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[QUOTE=Hog1]YOU may be right! Heisman Guys are notorious for ???????????[/QUOTE]
Living here in LA, I see all the USC games. This guy is a combination of Joe Washington, Kelvin Bryant and Earnest Byner. He is, as Matty stated, "lightning in a bottle". Great speed, quickness, intelligence and when he gets into the open field, forget it. If anything, he is UNDERRATED! Be sure to watch the national championship game and you'll see why he is so hailed.

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[QUOTE=dblanch66]Living here in LA, I see all the USC games. This guy is a combination of Joe Washington, Kelvin Bryant and Earnest Byner. He is, as Matty stated, "lightning in a bottle". Great speed, quickness, intelligence and when he gets into the open field, forget it. If anything, he is UNDERRATED! Be sure to watch the national championship game and you'll see why he is so hailed.[/QUOTE]

Lol, I hope Reggie has the best game ever in the NC and Vince Young is exposed as being overrated.

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]I can't understand how the Texans have gotten so bad. I always thought they were one step away from being a really good team (like Cincy being so close and then getting there this year.) I doubt Casserly would be welcomed back to Washington though.[/QUOTE]

If Joe wanted Casserly back, he would get him. Danny gets Joe what ever he wants. Vinny would just be moved to a different position of "yes man"

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If the Texans were smart they would draft Matt Leinhart. He is a pro already, and there is no way that he won't be as good or better than Carson Palmer. I would rather have a great quarterback and Domanick Davis than a great RB and the Fresno Kid.
Or they could trade down to 3 and get D'Brickashaw Ferguson, they really need help on the line.

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[QUOTE=skindogger47]If the Texans were smart they would draft Matt Leinhart. He is a pro already, and there is no way that he won't be as good or better than Carson Palmer. I would rather have a great quarterback and Domanick Davis than a great RB and the Fresno Kid.[/QUOTE]

Are you smoking something? You have a QB who can make all the throws, and pretty good QB, not like Joey Harrington. Bush is the altimate weapon, catch, run, pass. He can make a QB really good. Plus the coaching in Houston isn't all that great right now either.

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]Are you smoking something? You have a QB who can make all the throws, and pretty good QB, not like Joey Harrington. Bush is the altimate weapon, catch, run, pass. He can make a QB really good. Plus the coaching in Houston isn't all that great right now either.[/QUOTE]Domanick Davis is better than decent.

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They could probably draft Leinhart and trade him to the Titans and reunite him with Chow (if he's still there) and get Ferguson and a lot of compensation. Reggie Bush is raw, but I think the Texans have a very good RB already.

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They might not even keep Davis though, I'm pretty sure he's a free agent.

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I think the Texans will fire Capers and his staff but Casserly will be staying

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[QUOTE=dblanch66]Living here in LA, I see all the USC games. This guy is a combination of Joe Washington, Kelvin Bryant and Earnest Byner. He is, as Matty stated, "lightning in a bottle". Great speed, quickness, intelligence and when he gets into the open field, forget it. If anything, he is UNDERRATED! Be sure to watch the national championship game and you'll see why he is so hailed.[/QUOTE]

I will damn sure be watching that game!

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i cant get a read on bush because that damn usc team is soooo loaded.he has alot of talent buts its hard trying to translate that into what sucess he will have in the nfl.texans are interested in usc coach carrol as well.i am not sure what i would do if i was the texans.if they are sold are david carr they will probably trade down because they so many other holes to fill

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You can paint Capers "gone". The over/under for how long he lasts after the final game for the Texans - against the 49ers no less - on New Years Day is 48 hours. I'll take UNDER.

Casserly is probably 50/50 to survive.

The Texans real failing is that their offensive line awful. The only thing offensive about it is the smell of their practice uniforms back during training camp in August. They don't block real well for the run but they make up for that by blocking really horribly on pass plays. David Carr is lucky to be alive. Even in the worst of times for the Skins' OL under Steve Spurrier, the Skins' OL was hugely better than what the Texans have.

So who's to blame? Is Capers at fault for not getting enough performance out of those jamokes? Is Casserly at fault for thinking those lumps could actually block other professional football players? Or did Casserly assemble a flawed bunch and then Capers got them to underachieve even from their reduced levels of proficiency? You make the call...

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RB is worth the hype...

Check out these 05 stats:

1658 rushing yards on 187 carries (that's almost 9 yards a clip... you can say what you want about Pac-10 defenses, but that's hard to believe any back to get at JC!

12.4 receiving yards a carry (for a back, that's crazy)

15 rushing TDs and 2 receiving TDs... oh not to mention 3 passing TDs! he throws a pretty damn good ball too.

You could probably find better statistics somewhere this season in CFB, but you won't be able to find it in one player. Not to mention, he's not the only player in that offense- he has to split carries with Lendale White (who will be another first rounder)... and not to mention the other weapons (Smith, Jarrett, and Byrd).

The fact that other superstars make his job easier is somewhat valid... but let's not forget that every defense we've played so far has tried to key in on Bush in their gameplans. That's what separates Bush from the rest of the pack- they "try." I remember some Cal defender say, "take away the big play ability and he's an average running back." Yeah, well that's the key- every defense thinks they can contain him, but until they see it in person, they're already eating his dust.

The SC O-line is freakish, I'll agree there. If you watched the UCLA game, my grandma could have run through those holes. Having said that, even if you put a good-to-great running back behind there (say like a UT ricky williams or a VT Kevin Jones) they would have pretty good numbers as well. But they don't have the same type of dynamic that Bush has on the offense. With a Heisman QB, stud wideouts, and top TEs, he's the X-factor that D-coordinators try to plan for, but rarely ever stop.

Re: "he's too small, he'll be Brian Westbrook or Eric Metcalf"- B. Westbrook or Metcalf do not have the vision Bush has. I've never seen anyone in the history of football that has RB's game speed. Yes, there have been many players faster than Reggie. But no one has been able to cut on a dime (without losing a step), making defenders look like pop warner players... this includes Barry Sanders, who was amazing at switching directions. After Chow left last season, the coaching staff told him he'd be the focus point of the run game (after going 50/50 with White last season). He put on extra weight, and it's allowed him to run between the tackles. His 9 yard rushing average is a combination of long runs and grind it out yardage. Oh, and he's learned how to become an effective blocker too- essential for the NFL.

People say, "he won't be able to do that in the NFL because the defenses are faster and bigger." You don't think Bush is going to get bigger and faster? His ability to adapt physically and mentally is second to none. Unlike a lot of people in similar positions of celebrity here in Los Angeles, he's forgone the extra curricular activity. He's here at the mecca of fake boobs, great weather, and Hollywood. But he's a straight baller- no parties, no alcohol, no drugs. All he does is practice, study hard, and show up on game day- especially when it's a national stage.

What you're going to see in the Rose Bowl this year is probably different than what he's done all year... and that's be a decoy. The Texas d is probably going to focus on shutting him down, and when that happens Lienart is going to have a field day with all the other receivers. It happened at the last Rose Bowl we were in, when BMW was the decoy for Keary Colbert. In either case, it won't affect his draft status... there's a reason why Pro scouts are saying he's a combination of Barry Sanders and Ladainian Tomlinson.

I like this quote the best:
"Reggie Bush looks like a creation from a video game-an almost unreal character created by a kid who finds all the secret codes to make his player faster, quicker and better than everyone else on the field...He always makes the impossible seem possible. The scary thing for USC's opponents is that this creation isn't imaginary. He's not from a video game. He's a living, breathing human joystick who terrorizes defenses with his blinding speed and ankle-breaking shimmies...His speed borders on blinding and his knack for eluding defenders borders on ridiculous."

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Bush is great but from all the games Ive watched he has a tendency to not tuck the ball he holds it away from body alot when running in college is not a problem. Hopefully when he goes pro he will either change that himself or be taught to cause you wont get away with that in NFL defenses are to fast and will knock that ball out. If he fixes that his potential is amazing

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Bush isnt small, he is 6'... but i dont think he will be better than a napolean kaufman type player.

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Reggie Bush is the main reason for the team being undefeated... 513 total yards in a 3 point victory over fresno and he had a really good game against Notre Dam too. He's the type of player who will bring his best games when needed. Unless he gets injured I would be amazed if he isn't one of the best runningbacks the NFL has ever seen when he's done.

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The thing about Reggie Bush is he has the luxury of having a great offensive line. I watched a bit of their championship game last week, and I could have driven a mac truck through those holes. I believe Reggie is an outstanding running back, but he's not going to have that type of offensive line if he goes to Houston next year.

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[QUOTE=jamf]Bush isnt small, he is 6'... but i dont think he will be better than a napolean kaufman type player.[/QUOTE]

dude, everyone is definitey entitled to their own opinions no matter how ridiculous they may sound...

but if bush turns into napolean kaufman, i'll eat all the crow you can serve.

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Reggie Bush didn't even make Kiper's top 10.

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I think that's because his top 10 only counts seniors

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Ah, very true, TAFKAS.

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It seems like QBs that win the Heisman tend to be a bust, whereas the RBs that win end up pretty successful in the NFL.

Since 1980 the only remotely successful QB has been Carson Palmer, and his success is very recent. Guys like Flutie and Testaverde have had long careers, but I'm not sure they're future hall of famers.

The RBs on the other hand do pretty well - Marcus Allen, Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson, Barry Sanders, Eddie George, Ricky Williams and Ron Dayne. Not all are equal, but I'd say they've all done pretty well.

Maybe the Heisman is the kiss of death for a QB, but a decent predictor of success for a RB?

Source: [URL=http://www.heisman.com/winners/hsmn-winners.html]Heisman Trophy Winners[/URL]

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mheisig:

You'd make a better case for Heisman running backs if you dropped Ron Dayne who has not done diddley-squat in his four or five year tenure in the league and added a gentleman named Earl Campbell.

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[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]mheisig:

You'd make a better case for Heisman running backs if you dropped Ron Dayne who has not done diddley-squat in his four or five year tenure in the league and added a gentleman named Earl Campbell.[/QUOTE]

Probably true, though I only said from 1980 on - Campbell was the 1977 winner.

Dayne definitely isn't the standout of the bunch though, I'd agree. Though I think you'd have to agree that on the whole, throughout the history of the Heisman, there are substantially more Hall of Fame or future Hall of Fame RBs than QBs.