Eric Moulds
 

Eric Moulds seems to be on his way out in Buffalo. He's had seasons of 100 catches and 1300 yards. He even managed to make Peerless Price look like a good wideout. He's played through double teams pretty much his whole career in buffalo where he played under Greg Williams. Most importantly hes 6-2 and 210 pounds, the kinda size we lack. At 32 he still has some football left to play. Do we go after him at the end of the season? He would most certainly open things up for moss and with patten as a number 3 we could have an explosive offense. He just had his streak of 121 games with a catches broken. And he's frustrated in buffalo but he said "I don't really want to comment on it. I don't want it to be a situation like T.O." Which to me makes him a much better target than Owens.

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Moulds sounds great. If he does come, it could be the most talented trio of wideouts that we've had since Clark-Sanders-Monk.

:spank:

Thats what i get for dreaming...

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vet minnimum

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[QUOTE=Misterbillysells]He would most certainly open things up for moss and with patten as a number 3 we could have an explosive offense.[/QUOTE]

Eric Moulds is vastly superior to David Patten, so if Washington did happen to sign him, he would, more than likely, become the #2 receiver. And I can promise you, he won't just be sitting at home without any offers in the offseason, so he won't come very cheap.

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why do the fans always want someone elses problems.there is a reason he is being released,behavior

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Good point Dmek, particularly if GW coached him, he is keenly aware of what is going on with him. If the Skins' have interest in him, it won't be a secret long. If not, GW has his reasons.

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[QUOTE=dmek25]why do the fans always want someone elses problems.there is a reason he is being released,behavior[/QUOTE]
For what it's worth I don't remember him having issues in the past ever. He is 32 so he's been in the league. If he was a problem guy I think everyone would know by now. He is getting screwed over up there for making very measured comments that were basically correct. The gist of what he said was that they should have been RUNNING the ball more when they had the lead and throwing less since they have an inexperienced QB. Losman straight up lost the game for them on an interception and he shouldn't have been throwing in the first place. Moulds didn't come out all mouthy trying to start trouble. He simply stated the obvious. It is important to note he wasn't bitching about touches either. He was pointing out what they needed to do to win and not so incidentally it didn't involve him getting the ball. He was frustrated that he was benched for 3 quarters and I think he might have a point there since they don't have more than one guy who is as good or better than him. Mularkey says Moulds "took" himself out but that's not what Moulds says. Don't know why a guy would take himself out and then say the coach had benched him. Something is up there and I am going to give Moulds some benefit of the doubt since he hasn't shown himself to be a jerk in the past.
As to whether we should pursue him I would be cautious. His talent has diminished and he is aging so I'd only advoacte getting him on the cheap which I am guessing won't happen. If he can play for a couple seasons somewhere close to his top level he would be great for us. We still need to develop a young WR in the comign seasons though.

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frplg have you ever heard anyone on the skins complaining like this?coles was the only one that comes to mind and look where he is it

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so he got released? i hadn't heard anything. he'll probably command more than the veteran minimum.

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[QUOTE=dmek25]frplg have you ever heard anyone on the skins complaining like this?coles was the only one that comes to mind and look where he is it[/QUOTE]
Coles never once complained in the media and I applaud him for that. What does where he is at matter?
I think a guy being a 9 year veteran with no history of personality problems simply deserves some benefit of the doubt. I am not going to immediately label him as a cancer or anything until the entire situation is played out and everyone knows what happened. I am willing to conjecture that maybe this is being mishandled by the coaching staff and management since other coaches haven't had problems with him. I absolutly could be wrong but I'd also be willing to give him a shot for the right price even if it turns out he jerked up on this one. One incident in 9 years is not a pattern. It is a warning though.

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maybe a 2 year 2 million dollar contract or something s mall, but this guy has his best years behind him. he is nothing more than an above average possession reciever now.

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He is a VERY good receiver with no quarterback. If we got him for less than 5 for 3 years it would be a steal. He is a team player and said nothing detrimental to the team, just stated the facts when asked about it. He is EXACTLY what the Redskins need, and Buffalo will be hating it next year when Evans is double teamed every play. Moss and Moulds would be sweeeeet.

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moulds is making like 7mill or something insane this year... last year moose was free and gibbs REALLY liked him, but refused to even make an offer cause he was too good to be cheap and too old to be worth a long contract. moulds is going to get offered #1 money and we just don't need to pay that much for a 32 year old WR on the downside of his career.

If he's cheap, sure, but my guess is he's just another FA we pass on. So far JG + crew have gone for young promising (but unproven or unsung) players (griffin, washington, clark) or betting on injury problems (springs, harris, fiore, barrow, vaughn). Though WRs with feet problems (coles, jacobs) don't really seem to be worth the risk.

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I'd pass, he's definitely lost a step or two.

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He'd be a decent pick up but the price definitely has to be right.

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[QUOTE=VTSkins897]so he got released? i hadn't heard anything. he'll probably command more than the veteran minimum.[/QUOTE]

He is good, but old and has clearly lost a step. I dont want him for any kind of big signing bonus. Remember, this is a young team and we should be spending on quality free agents who can grow along with the rest of our guys.

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I think Moulds can still contribute. I'd consider him this offseason. I'd like to see them go after Antwaan Randle El and either Moulds, Joe Jurevicius (I know he's no spring chicken), and to a lesser extent Antonio Bryant (I know he's a former Cowboy)

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Speaking of the Bills though, rumor is their head coach might be on his way out. What about Mularkey here as OC? How ironic would that be, what with the guy he replaced, Gregg Williams, here already.

But Mularkey did some pretty good things with the offense in Pittsburgh. An offense not too much unlike ours. Run, Run, Run, play-action

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If we do add a "big" WR I'm hoping it will be a guy with some speed. Moulds just doesn't have that extra gear he used to. His yards per catch have steadily dipped the last few years, granted the unsettled situation at QB hasn't helped, but he hasn't averaged more than 13 per catch since 2001.

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Speaking of Big WRs w/speed, I'm glad we didn't pick up M.Williams with that first round pick.

I thought it was funny last week on the NFL today, Jimmy Johnson called him a slow tight-end!

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There are alot of Dan Snyders out here. Big name, lets get him. First it Price, now Moulds. There is a reason Price has not been seen since leaving Buffalo. Moulds is 32, why pay another aging player money. He is not going to be cheap. Why not DRAFT a player! or develop one of our yound guys. Jacobs should be given a shot, if he doesn't get hurt again. The organization was so impressed with him in the offseason, then he got hurt. We dont need another big name guy that will complain about not getting the ball, or breaking his streak of catches. Havn't we learned from this? Why is it when somebody is rumored to be let loose or dropped, its alot of "we need him, thats exactly what we need" come on people! let build up from young players and stop overpaying these players on their way out!

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no cap space

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]There are alot of Dan Snyders out here. Big name, lets get him. First it Price, now Moulds. There is a reason Price has not been seen since leaving Buffalo. Moulds is 32, why pay another aging player money. He is not going to be cheap. Why not DRAFT a player! or develop one of our yound guys. Jacobs should be given a shot, if he doesn't get hurt again. The organization was so impressed with him in the offseason, then he got hurt. We dont need another big name guy that will complain about not getting the ball, or breaking his streak of catches. Havn't we learned from this? Why is it when somebody is rumored to be let loose or dropped, its alot of "we need him, thats exactly what we need" come on people! let build up from young players and stop overpaying these players on their way out![/QUOTE]

I agree but unfortunately the skins have a coach and front office that likes to give away draft picks like santa claus gives away xmas presents. This team needs to stop giving these draft pick away so they can develop a depth of talent instead of giving away $ to once great players looking to cash a big paycheck.

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56Fanatic -- Most people are willing to offer both players you mentioned a very small salary. It's worth the risk for the possible reward of getting a great player. We're not asking anyone to break the bank (IE the over-the-hill crew Snyder first brought in) but we are willing to take a chance if they're cheap.

Just like a few of us wanted to bring in Koren Robinson, he's doing pretty damn good out in MN right now.

It's all about finding those gems that fall through the cracks. Like Irish mentioned, its not like we can keep draft picks around.

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]There are alot of Dan Snyders out here. Big name, lets get him. First it Price, now Moulds. There is a reason Price has not been seen since leaving Buffalo. Moulds is 32, why pay another aging player money. He is not going to be cheap. Why not DRAFT a player! or develop one of our yound guys. Jacobs should be given a shot, if he doesn't get hurt again. The organization was so impressed with him in the offseason, then he got hurt. We dont need another big name guy that will complain about not getting the ball, or breaking his streak of catches. Havn't we learned from this? Why is it when somebody is rumored to be let loose or dropped, its alot of "we need him, thats exactly what we need" come on people! let build up from young players and stop overpaying these players on their way out![/QUOTE]Drafting WRs is a total crapshoot and our young "talent" consists of Taylor Jacobs and Parrish the Practice Dummy. You can bet Jacobs will be hurt again soon. The good news is that this offseason the WR free agent market will have some pretty good talent and guys will come relatively cheap. I want Javon Walker but he's too expensive.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]56Fanatic -- Most people are willing to offer both players you mentioned a very small salary. It's worth the risk for the possible reward of getting a great player. We're not asking anyone to break the bank (IE the over-the-hill crew Snyder first brought in) but we are willing to take a chance if they're cheap.

Just like a few of us wanted to bring in Koren Robinson, he's doing pretty damn good out in MN right now.

It's all about finding those gems that fall through the cracks. Like Irish mentioned, its not like we can keep draft picks around.[/QUOTE]

Most people, meaning NFL teams? Yeah, they can offer minimul amounts, my point is he isn't going to come cheap. 1 to 2 million, are you kidding, he is getting between 5 and 8 right now. He doesn't need to accept less because he will get paid, but a team with cap room, and a team that needs one more good receiver to get over the top. Koren Robinson is a time bomb, he is going to hold out or want another deal when he feels he deserves it. Then it will be the same ole story. All of the things people are saying, lead to the front office. We cant keep draft picks around because they want to go somewhere and win. Why stay here and suffer for a .500 ball club. Others will go for money. If our organiztion wasn't in such disarray, champ would still be here, smoot too. Champ left because we couldn't keep the same staff and players here to win. Its one of the things he says all the time. And the fact that the organization he went to had some class, which I believe Denver does. Washington, well mainly Dan has not really shown much class to players or people within the organization.

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]If our organiztion wasn't in such disarray, champ would still be here, smoot too. Champ left because we couldn't keep the same staff and players here to win. Its one of the things he says all the time. [/QUOTE]

make no mistake, he left for money. He wanted $68mill and we didn't want to pay him more than $50mill. Those pot-shots are just petty sh*t cause we rejected him. During the contract talks all he said was how much he liked it here and how he wanted to be a redskin for life and all that other crap pro athletes say.

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]Most people, meaning NFL teams? Yeah, they can offer minimul amounts, my point is he isn't going to come cheap. 1 to 2 million, are you kidding, he is getting between 5 and 8 right now. He doesn't need to accept less because he will get paid, but a team with cap room, and a team that needs one more good receiver to get over the top. Koren Robinson is a time bomb, he is going to hold out or want another deal when he feels he deserves it. Then it will be the same ole story. All of the things people are saying, lead to the front office. We cant keep draft picks around because they want to go somewhere and win. Why stay here and suffer for a .500 ball club. Others will go for money. If our organiztion wasn't in such disarray, champ would still be here, smoot too. Champ left because we couldn't keep the same staff and players here to win. Its one of the things he says all the time. And the fact that the organization he went to had some class, which I believe Denver does. Washington, well mainly Dan has not really shown much class to players or people within the organization.[/QUOTE]

If Smoot did indeed leave the Redskins for the Vikings because this organization has issues...then that's a sad commentary on the state of the Redskins

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Speak of the devil, Moulds has been suspended for this week's game

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