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mooby 10-12-2021 06:45 AM

The Buttery Males Thread
 
I feel like there's more yet to come with this email thing and it deserves its own thread. Gruden might be the first to fall but if the email chain is any indication he shouldn't be the last.

[url]https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1447727725633064964?t=ClNCc1MSjqZ9lSFDOTM9WQ&s=19[/url]

Albert Breer makes a great point about the cover up - which begs the question how does the WFT get fined 10 million dollars and the conclusion to the investigation is just an oral report?

Like we're all in agreement on an email chain between Allen, Gruden, Jim Mcvay (Sean's uncle, CEO of the Outback Bowl) and others where they were shit-talking various people and sending cheerleader nudes, how is Jon Gruden the only one to come out of this tarnished?

punch it in 10-12-2021 07:29 AM

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Idk but somehow The Dan will become more powerful because of Allen or any other ex WFT employees that might have been involved

BaltimoreSkins 10-12-2021 07:40 AM

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Breer is right in his assertion unfortunately. ESPN's statement thus far is also subpar IMO. Personally I'd like to see Jon go full on whistleblower. I also wouldn't be surprised to see a congressional hearing.

EdmundDorf 10-12-2021 08:13 AM

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Makes you wonder, given how connected Bruce was, and maybe still is, within the league how much other dirty landry there is in his email accounts. He was certainly in communication with every other GM and high profile coach, not to mention owners and senior NFL staff up to and including the commisioner. May be a good indicator why the Snyder affair was swept under the carpet without a written report being made. Question is who now has the emails ( NFL HQ?) and why are they leaking them now.

There must be more in there and Gruden could demand complete disclosure if he took it to court, so he has been allowed to resign probably with a golden handshake so as to not muddy the waters

Chico23231 10-12-2021 08:42 AM

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Leaked emails are back in now I guess…funny how that works.

Booger said it best last night, folks like Gruden and Allen…your character will be exposed at some point.

Let’s be honest here, the sexual harassment and what’s been found from the Redskins investigation was far worse than leaked emails.

While we all would love Snyder to leave, I think that woulda happened by now.

MTK 10-12-2021 08:46 AM

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This shit is tip of the iceberg stuff.

mooby 10-12-2021 09:00 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1295277]Leaked emails are back in now I guess…[B]funny how that works.[/B]

Booger said it best last night, folks like Gruden and Allen…your character will be exposed at some point.

Let’s be honest here, the sexual harassment and what’s been found from the Redskins investigation was far worse than leaked emails.

While we all would love Snyder to leave, I think that woulda happened by now.[/quote]

I played to the crowd, knew you'd be all all over that shit.

Let's also be honest - why does Jon Gruden need to be the fall guy if everyone who took part in this shitnado was acting inappropriately. Allen and Snyder don't deserve to come out of this clean and so far they have.

Chico23231 10-12-2021 09:09 AM

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[quote=mooby;1295280]I played to the crowd, knew you'd be all all over that shit.

Let's also be honest - why does Jon Gruden need to be the fall guy if everyone who took part in this shitnado was acting inappropriately. Allen and Snyder don't deserve to come out of this clean and so far they have.[/quote]

“The difference is Jon Gruden isn’t part of the Redskins administration”

That’s how it works right?

The days of thinking Snyder will be removed died after they allowed him to buy out his partners

irish 10-12-2021 09:12 AM

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[quote=MTK;1295278]This shit is tip of the iceberg stuff.[/quote]

100% correct. We ain't seen nothing yet.

MTK 10-12-2021 09:13 AM

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[quote=mooby;1295280]I played to the crowd, knew you'd be all all over that shit.

Let's also be honest - why does Jon Gruden need to be the fall guy if everyone who took part in this shitnado was acting inappropriately. Allen and Snyder don't deserve to come out of this clean and so far they have.[/quote]

Because he's the low hanging fruit here. Owners and anyone else higher up on the food chain get different protections.

MTK 10-12-2021 09:14 AM

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[quote=irish;1295282]100% correct. We ain't seen nothing yet.[/quote]

And we probably never will see much more than this.

mooby 10-12-2021 09:22 AM

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Urban Meyer knuckle deep in a co-ed right now getting ready to text Roger Goodell "thanks for leaking those emails, appreciate it"

mooby 10-12-2021 09:24 AM

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[quote=MTK;1295283]Because he's the low hanging fruit here. Owners and anyone else higher up on the food chain get different protections.[/quote]

I'm hungry, the on-field product is back to being mediocre shit, surely there's gotta be someone at the NFL office reading these emails who also hates Snyder/Allen.

Dlyne8r 10-12-2021 09:37 AM

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Never was a fan of Jon Gruden and def do not condone his actions but let’s be fair. Now that it appears to be open season on practically everyone’s privacy let’s take a look at the players and other team staff’s emails. Do you believe for a second they haven’t made racist and inflammatory comments? Just seems to be a double standard being practiced on so many fronts. Again, what he did was dead wrong but what about everyone else (including Snyder & company)?

MTK 10-12-2021 09:49 AM

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Throw privacy out the window when you're using a work email like these guys were. Just dumb.

mooby 10-12-2021 09:49 AM

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[quote=Dlyne8r;1295289]Never was a fan of Jon Gruden and def do not condone his actions but let’s be fair. Now that it appears to be open season on practically everyone’s privacy [B]let’s take a look at the players and other team staff’s emails.[/B] Do you believe for a second they haven’t made racist and inflammatory comments? Just seems to be a double standard being practiced on so many fronts. Again, what he did was dead wrong but what about everyone else (including Snyder & company)?[/quote]

100% believe Gruden is just the fall guy on this, I'm sure everybody involved would rather avoid the spotlight if possible.

But seriously, anyone who has a company email should know from day one anything you send can come back on you later. Can't believe these idiots thought they could maintain privacy on a company email.

Chico23231 10-12-2021 09:56 AM

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[quote=MTK;1295290]Throw privacy out the window when you're using a work email like these guys were. Just dumb.[/quote]

Also, making ignorant statements verbally are terrible, but consciously writing that shit down is another level IMO. This isn’t just Twitter…these are composed emails.

Gruden is just a piece of crap. He is getting off doing it through emails.

Dlyne8r 10-12-2021 09:57 AM

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[quote=MTK;1295290]Throw privacy out the window when you're using a work email like these guys were. Just dumb.[/quote]

Totally agree but my point was what about everyone else? I can only imagine what players and others say about the coaches, etc. Racism exists in all races.

Chico23231 10-12-2021 09:58 AM

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Don’t we think if they had dirt on Snyder with emails…you are reporting this right now and not the Gruden stuff?

I don’t think holding inflammatory statements back makes sense in Snyder case.

MTK 10-12-2021 09:58 AM

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So apparently Gruden was using a personal email, but Allen was not. Either way, still dumb. You have to assume any email sent to or from an employer's email is going to be discoverable.

mooby 10-12-2021 10:09 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1295296]Don’t we think if [B]they had dirt on Snyder[/B] with emails…you are reporting this right now and not the Gruden stuff?

I don’t think holding inflammatory statements back makes sense in Snyder case.[/quote]

I can't prove it but the talk is that the league office is leaking these emails because they want Gruden fired - presumably for shit-talking Goodell back in the day. It also points to him being the fall guy - Allen is already gone and I'm sure if they have any incriminating emails including Snyder they are probably sitting on them bc they obviously want the harassment story with the team to go away.

punch it in 10-12-2021 10:10 AM

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1295277]Leaked emails are back in now I guess…funny how that works.

Booger said it best last night, folks like Gruden and Allen…your character will be exposed at some point.

Let’s be honest here, the sexual harassment and what’s been found from the Redskins investigation was far worse than leaked emails.

While we all would love Snyder to leave, I think that woulda happened by now.[/QUOTE]


Hope you aint goin where i think u r goin cus there was plenty of leaked emails going around during your victory parade too. Last comment ill make on that in this thread.

punch it in 10-12-2021 10:11 AM

The Buttery Males Thread
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1295296]Don’t we think if they had dirt on Snyder with emails…you are reporting this right now and not the Gruden stuff?

I don’t think holding inflammatory statements back makes sense in Snyder case.[/QUOTE]


Absolutely correct. And disappointing. [emoji22]

MTK 10-12-2021 10:12 AM

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Apparently Snyder doesn't use email. Dude is like the modern day Paulie from Goodfellas.

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punch it in 10-12-2021 10:14 AM

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Too much conspiracy here. Gruden said stupid shit in an email and got caught. I doubt there is some behind the scenes shit involving Goodell etc to get him fired. Thats crazy.

mooby 10-12-2021 10:14 AM

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[quote=MTK;1295304]Apparently Snyder doesn't use email. Dude is like the modern day Paulie from Goodfellas.

[/quote]

He's wicked smaht. Can't leave behind a trail of evidence if you don't use emails.

Probably uses burners for all his cheerleader nudes too.

mooby 10-12-2021 10:15 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1295305]Too much conspiracy here. Gruden said stupid shit in an email and got caught. I doubt there is some behind the scenes shit involving Goodell etc to get him fired. Thats crazy.[/quote]

[URL="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1447749944362872833?s=20"]The league office is the one sifting through the 650k+ emails from the investigation.[/URL]

mredskins 10-12-2021 10:18 AM

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[quote=MTK;1295304]Apparently Snyder doesn't use email. Dude is like the modern day Paulie from Goodfellas.

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Its not a bad strategy, at work my leadership team is so overwhelmed by emails they block emails they are cc on.

In my head i have a sense of urgency that i apply to responding to messages or direction at work.

1. [B]Phone[/B], someone calls me shit is hitting the fan
2.[B] IM[/B], better respond in 5 minutes or so
3. [B]Text [/B]got a half hour to a hour
4. [B]Email[/B], sometime before xmas

irish 10-12-2021 10:18 AM

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[quote=MTK;1295284]And we probably never will see much more than this.[/quote]

Unfortunately you are correct again.

The sad thing is once again WFT is linked to another scandal. I know it would never happen but I do think the franchise needs to be shut down and somehow rebuilt from scratch.

Chico23231 10-12-2021 10:42 AM

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[quote=irish;1295309]Unfortunately you are correct again.

[B]The sad thing is once again WFT is linked to another scandal[/B]. I know it would never happen but I do think the franchise needs to be shut down and somehow rebuilt from scratch.[/quote]

This…such a fuckin trash heap. Jon Gruden could freely confide his shit character with his good buddy Bruce, the guy Snyder put in charge of the franchise. It’s just never ending. I’m sure Snyder has a statement ready to say he never knew this.

Chico23231 10-12-2021 10:44 AM

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[quote=MTK;1295304]Apparently Snyder doesn't use email. Dude is like the modern day Paulie from Goodfellas.

[YT]dwo3mBHFqMk[/YT][/quote]

And Snyder is Paulie Walnuts trying to follow a conversation anyway

[YT]7h3CAeNvouw[/YT]

Flip phone too

Ruhskins 10-12-2021 10:46 AM

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Hate to say this, but as much as I would like to see Snyder taken down, I'm sure he and Bruce are not dumb enough to put in an email what Gruden did. I mean that's beyond stupidity what Gruden said.

irish 10-12-2021 11:13 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1295313]This…such a fuckin trash heap. Jon Gruden could freely confide his shit character with his good buddy Bruce, the guy Snyder put in charge of the franchise. It’s just never ending. I’m sure Snyder has a statement ready to say he never knew this.[/quote]

Snyder knew about this the same way the Raiders knew and everyone chose to ignore it.

punch it in 10-12-2021 11:14 AM

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[QUOTE=mooby;1295307]The league office is the one sifting through the 650k+ emails from the investigation.[/QUOTE]


Of course they are because they came to light. Doesn’t mean it was a planned assassination of Grudens career. He fucked up. He got caught.

mooby 10-12-2021 11:16 AM

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[quote=punch it in;1295320]Of course they are because they came to light. Doesn’t mean it was a planned assassination of Grudens career. He fucked up. He got caught.[/quote]

He shit talked Roger Goodell and called him a f****t (unconfirmed), you thought The Rog was gonna let that slide? On top of everything else?

CrazyCanuck 10-12-2021 11:25 AM

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This team... :smashfreak:

punch it in 10-12-2021 11:37 AM

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[QUOTE=mooby;1295321]He shit talked Roger Goodell and called him a f****t (unconfirmed), you thought The Rog was gonna let that slide? On top of everything else?[/QUOTE]


I think the Rog is smiling from ear to ear but regardless of the past Goodell isn’t covering this up. Not for friends or enemies. Unless he doesn’t like his job either.

irish 10-12-2021 12:23 PM

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This column unfortunately is all too true.

[url]https://wtop.com/sports-columns/2021/10/column-washington-football-is-dead-and-only-1-thing-can-bring-it-back/[/url]

mredskins 10-12-2021 12:24 PM

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Ok i am idiot...

what does buttery males mean? or do i not want know

Chico23231 10-12-2021 12:45 PM

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It’s never about football with this team


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