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SkinsGuru 08-20-2018 06:56 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=Meks;1198314]It's a few years ago now, a lot of ppl have put it behind them, he went thru the reccomended trearment and has shown remorse for his actions.

We didn't sign him to babysit our kids...

That's really as far as I want to go into this.[/quote]

he has been accused of child abuse multiple times ince . . . yeah, lots of remorse

mredskins 08-20-2018 07:01 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
So pumped!

Looking for sarcastic font...

skinsfan69 08-20-2018 07:23 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1198300]We need someone who is not hurt to run the ball, right now we only have two players that are %100 healthy.

Jay's job is on the line and Dough Williams has been consistently saying that they need to improve the running game (a judgement on all the returning RBs not named Chris Thompson). With Guice out and all the injuries, the running game would have been back to last year's status.

AP was given a 1-year deal, which is very low risk/high reward type of situation IMO.

I'd prefer this outcome, as opposed to giving up a draft pick on a 1-year rental. Did you forget the TJ Duckett trade? That was Vinny ball.

Also, I prefer this to the status quo of having a recovering CT, banged up Perine and just Kelly and Bibbs healthy.[/quote]

There is no high reward w/ AP at this point of his career. And if Jay's thinking that a 33 year old rb who is way past his prime w/ a 3.1 ypc last year is going to help save his job then that is pretty sad. It's a total panic move by the Redskins to try and get the fanbase excited. We've seen this shit before.

Also you don't need to make a Tj Duckett type of trade. If the Redskins were smart and patient, they'd just bring in some guys off the street to play the last two pre season games, then see which backs are released at the end of pre season. Example...The Ravens picked up Alex Collins after he was cut by the Seahawks last pre season and he ended up being their starter. He started 12 games and almost had 1,000 yards.

punch it in 08-20-2018 07:26 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[QUOTE=SkinsGuru;1198316]he has been accused of child abuse multiple times ince . . . yeah, lots of remorse[/QUOTE]



That is the only thing that bothers me. Not the one year deal for a potentially very serviceable rb but that I hate him. Oh well. If he fails miserably i can say eff you child beater so there is that....

skinsfan69 08-20-2018 07:30 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=SkinsGuru;1198316]he has been accused of child abuse multiple times ince . . . yeah, lots of remorse[/quote]

I can't root for someone who whips a defenseless 4 year old with a tree branch and sticks leaves in his mouth.

punch it in 08-20-2018 07:36 PM

Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1198319]There is no high reward w/ AP at this point of his career. And if Jay's thinking that a 33 year old rb who is way past his prime w/ a 3.1 ypc last year is going to help save his job then that is pretty sad. It's a total panic move by the Redskins to try and get the fanbase excited. We've seen this shit before.



Also you don't need to make a Tj Duckett type of trade. If the Redskins were smart and patient, they'd just bring in some guys off the street to play the last two pre season games, then see which backs are released at the end of pre season. Example...The Ravens picked up Alex Collins after he was cut by the Seahawks last pre season and he ended up being their starter. He started 12 games and almost had 1,000 yards.[/QUOTE]



Gruden wasn’t even going to sign a back after Guice went down, but we now have no option. AP is a guy off the street. Lol. Alex Collin type moves do not happen every day. Not even close. Even if you want to make the definitive statement that there is no high reward for AP, there certainly is not a high risk either so what is the big deal? Do you really think this was to get the fan base excited? If that was the case we would have signed him after Guice went down. We are depleted big time right now at the position. So we bought in a guy who just might have another year left - once again he ran behind possibly thee worst o line in football last year and had a couple huge games. After Guice went down we were left with last years crop and we all saw how that went. So we gave AP a one year deal. This is not same old redskins shit. If it were we would have signed him to a five year deal months ago and traded away draft picks to do it. If he doesn’t work out it is really no big deal, and nobody is going to say “man we should have got some guy off the streets that wasnt a former all pro because than we would have had an awesome run game”.

MTK 08-20-2018 07:43 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
Yeah people make it seem like an Alex Collins just hits the wire every offseason.

If the Skins signed AP to a big money deal back in March and ignored RB in the draft I could understand the gripes.

I’m looking at it like why not? Maybe he discovers the John Riggins fountain of youth and has one last 1000 yarder in him. Or maybe he’s a rotation guy that gives us 500 yards. Either way we’re really not in a spot to be complaining considering our current situation.

GridIron26 08-20-2018 07:49 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=MTK;1198323]Yeah people make it seem like an Alex Collins just hits the wire every offseason.

If the Skins signed AP to a big money deal back in March and ignored RB in the draft I could understand the gripes.

I’m looking at it like why not? Maybe he discovers the John Riggins fountain of youth and has one last 1000 yarder in him. Or maybe he’s a rotation guy that gives us 500 yards. [B]Either way we’re really not in a spot to be complaining considering our current situation.[/B][/quote]


This. I am not fan of the move but this is no big deal, AP signed for vet minimum money. There is no risk and it's easy for us to cut him by start of season if we find someone else.. Maybe we can use him to mentor Guice for a year.

CRedskinsRule 08-20-2018 07:58 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1198319]There is no high reward w/ AP at this point of his career. And if Jay's thinking that a 33 year old rb who is way past his prime w/ a 3.1 ypc last year is going to help save his job then that is pretty sad. It's a total panic move by the Redskins to try and get the fanbase excited. We've seen this shit before.

Also you don't need to make a Tj Duckett type of trade.[B] If the Redskins were smart and patient, they'd just bring in some guys off the street to play the last two pre season games,[/B] then see which backs are released at the end of pre season. Example...The Ravens picked up Alex Collins after he was cut by the Seahawks last pre season and he ended up being their starter. He started 12 games and almost had 1,000 yards.[/quote]

But the AP move doesn't break that option.

jamf 08-20-2018 07:58 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1198275]And just when I thought there were adults over at Redskin Park they do this dumb ass shit.[/quote]

Redskins are risking a roster spot and vet minimum for a future hall of famer who likes to go out and whip some ass.
This is a low risk high reward signing.

Peterson and CT are a good 1 - 2 compliment.

I'm fine with this, I couldn't take Kelley as the primary back.

skinsnut 08-20-2018 08:24 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
Without AP, best case scenario was Perine working out. That can still happen, I don't see it though, and I definitely don't see Kelly as a pro bowler either, or even a starter. Frankly, we really didnt have a starter on the squad, just a very good 3rd down back and solid backups. I don't like AP's history with kids, but I love his football. Also note, he came back from a career threatening ACL and had an amazing season. AP is the poster child for ACL RB recovery, and that is EXACTLY what our rookie future star running back must recover from. I see AP as a Guide ACL recovery mentor. If he handles short yardage and gets a few TD's more power to him! Also can use as a fullback or a 2 back set.

skinsnut 08-20-2018 08:27 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
Also, no excuse for not running the ball now. We better as hell go for every 4th and 1 from now on.

SolidSnake84 08-20-2018 08:32 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
I like the AP signing. So many players have talked about how great AP still looks, and like Trent Williams said there is no reason to think that because a guy is 33 or 34 he's all of a sudden going to slow down. We might get one more great year out of him. I think AP gives you some excitement every time he's out on the field...

skinsfan69 08-20-2018 09:09 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=punch it in;1198322]Gruden wasn’t even going to sign a back after Guice went down, but we now have no option. [B]AP is a guy off the street. Lol.[/B] Alex Collin type moves do not happen every day. Not even close. Even if you want to make the definitive statement that there is no high reward for AP, there certainly is not a high risk either so what is the big deal? Do you really think this was to get the fan base excited? If that was the case we would have signed him after Guice went down. We are depleted big time right now at the position. So we bought in a guy who just might have another year left - once again he ran behind possibly thee worst o line in football last year and had a couple huge games. After Guice went down we were left with last years crop and we all saw how that went. So we gave AP a one year deal. This is not same old redskins shit. If it were we would have signed him to a five year deal months ago and traded away draft picks to do it. If he doesn’t work out it is really no big deal, and nobody is going to say “man we should have got some guy off the streets that wasnt a former all pro because than we would have had an awesome run game”.[/quote]


You know what I mean, a guy with less credentials.

MTK 08-20-2018 09:40 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
We already have guys with lesser credentials lol

Why not a guy that’s been there, done that?

One thing we can be sure of AP is going to bring some attitude to the run game

Defensewins 08-20-2018 10:45 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
I am ok with it. What do we have to lose? I assume we did not pay much?
I am not saying AP will set the world on fire.......I might be wrong, but was Riggo 33 when he won a Super Bowl.?.? He was 34 when he set the record of 24 rushing TD’s in one season. Then at 35 led the NFL is rushing TD’s again.
We need a veteran RB on offense to show the others how to be an NFL RB. Nothing wrong with that. We used to do it all the time...Earnie Byner, Gerald Riggs etc.

Schneed10 08-20-2018 10:59 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
His best days are behind him but let me put it this way... are you more confident now in the Redskins ability to pick up a first down on third and one with a game on the line when everyone knows you’re going to run?

Peterson still is a very hard charger and at minimum fills the Gerald Riggs type role. We desperately need that.

Guice will be the hero next year but Peterson can help on the goal line and keep drives alive.

punch it in 08-20-2018 11:25 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1198330]You know what I mean, a guy with less credentials.[/QUOTE]



I do. However for all intensive purposes AP is a guy off the street. His phone wasn’t ringing off the hook. Anyway how does less credentials fall into the positive category for anyone who did anything ever? If we gave up the farm to sign him I would agree with your whole “fill the seats, bullshit move” theory but we didn’t. We gave up nothing. You will be ordering your AP jersey soon. Lol

sdskinsfan2001 08-21-2018 01:43 AM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
Not gonna get to excited or too pissed. The team was stuck between a rock and a hard place. Lets throw AP against the wall and see if he sticks. If not, you move on and sign someone else. I have to imagine AP knows this could be his last chance. If he has bad attitude or doesn't perform he's probably donesky.

Chico23231 08-21-2018 07:42 AM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
I’m just glad we made a move. I’m fine with a AP, Perine and CT backfield and hope this sparks the offense.

KI Skins Fan 08-21-2018 08:20 AM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
The idea of Adrian Peterson in a Redskins uniform makes me want to throw up. That won't change no matter how well he might perform on the football field. I'll still root for the Skins but not for him.

skinsfan69 08-21-2018 08:29 AM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=punch it in;1198335]I do. However for all intensive purposes AP is a guy off the street. His phone wasn’t ringing off the hook. Anyway how does less credentials fall into the positive category for anyone who did anything ever? If we gave up the farm to sign him I would agree with your whole “fill the seats, bullshit move” theory but we didn’t. We gave up nothing. You will be ordering your AP jersey soon. Lol[/quote]

Like I said, I'd get through the next two pre season games by signing someone like Darkwa. I'd let him, Kelly, Bibbs and CT carry the load next week. Once Perine comes back next week then figure it out from there and wait for the final cuts. Plus we'll hopefully have Marshall back by week one.

As you may or may not know I am always against signing old guys, no matter how low risk it is, especially an old 33 year old RB. Then when you add in that he abused a child, I just can't root for this. He can rush for 1400 yards and score 12 td's and I just can't do it.

Ruhskins 08-21-2018 08:30 AM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
AP contract details.[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180821/85bbd55a24d93c361347feb553b72e4d.jpg[/IMG]

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skinsfan69 08-21-2018 08:32 AM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1198339]The idea of Adrian Peterson in a Redskins uniform makes me want to throw up. That won't change no matter how well he might perform on the football field. I'll still root for the Skins but not for him.[/quote]

Can you imagine beating a 4 year old so bad with a tree limb that he needs medical attention? And to add insult to injury you stick leaves in his mouth? What the fuck is wrong with that guy? Big huge thumbs down to Redskins management.

skinsfaninok 08-21-2018 08:34 AM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=Schneed10;1198334]His best days are behind him but let me put it this way... are you more confident now in the Redskins ability to pick up a first down on third and one with a game on the line when everyone knows you’re going to run?

Peterson still is a very hard charger and at minimum fills the Gerald Riggs type role. We desperately need that.

Guice will be the hero next year but Peterson can help on the goal line and keep drives alive.[/quote]

This exactly, AD isn't coming in here to rush for 1200 yards, people that think he's useless still are wrong, he will do the dirty work and get tough yards that ROB can't, also IMO AD is still a better back than Rob so it's a win win situation.

MTK 08-21-2018 09:05 AM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[URL="https://www.si.com/nfl/2016/01/05/adrian-peterson-vikings-parenting-child-abuse-case"]Adrian Peterson on parenting, forgiveness, being a public pariah[/URL]

CRedskinsRule 08-21-2018 09:30 AM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
If Ray Lewis can go in the HOF, I'm thinking 1 year of AP isn't going to kill the Skins.

NC_Skins 08-21-2018 10:37 AM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=Schneed10;1198334]His best days are behind him but let me put it this way... are you more confident now in the Redskins ability to pick up a first down on third and one with a game on the line when everyone knows you’re going to run?

Peterson still is a very hard charger and at minimum fills the Gerald Riggs type role. We desperately need that.

Guice will be the hero next year but Peterson can help on the goal line and keep drives alive.[/quote]

Just a note. He does fumble a lot. While I'd be more confident in the short yardage, I'm also worried about his ability to secure the ball.

jamf 08-21-2018 10:40 AM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1198345]If Ray Lewis can go in the HOF, I'm thinking 1 year of AP isn't going to kill the Skins.[/quote]

Don't forget Dante Stallworth, signed with the Redskins after killing a guy while driving drunk.

skinsfaninok 08-21-2018 10:59 AM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1198346]Just a note. He does fumble a lot. While I'd be more confident in the short yardage, I'm also worried about his ability to secure the ball.[/quote]

Career 53.2 FUM GRADE (PFF)

44 Fumbles on 2,690 Attempts.

It's not as bad as it seems but he's def not the best at securing the ball.

EARTHQUAKE2689 08-21-2018 11:52 AM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1198342]Can you imagine beating a 4 year old so bad with a tree limb that he needs medical attention? And to add insult to injury you stick leaves in his mouth? What the fuck is wrong with that guy? Big huge thumbs down to Redskins management.[/quote]

Yes I can imagine that. Growing up I got 10x worse beatings that would make that look like a walk in the park. That however has nothing to do with him playing on the field

Meks 08-21-2018 12:16 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1198349]Yes I can imagine that. Growing up I got 10x worse beatings that would make that look like a walk in the park. That however has nothing to do with him playing kn the field[/quote]

agreed.

punch it in 08-21-2018 01:22 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1198340]Like I said, I'd get through the next two pre season games by signing someone like Darkwa. I'd let him, Kelly, Bibbs and CT carry the load next week. Once Perine comes back next week then figure it out from there and wait for the final cuts. Plus we'll hopefully have Marshall back by week one.



As you may or may not know I am always against signing old guys, no matter how low risk it is, especially an old 33 year old RB. Then when you add in that he abused a child, I just can't root for this. He can rush for 1400 yards and score 12 td's and I just can't do it.[/QUOTE]



I hear you about not wanting to root for him. Ive said as much. But every time he gets the ball im going to root for him. Lol. Whether or not he has a good or bad year will not change what he did or how I feel about him as a person. He has to live with it and I guess I will let God be his judge and jury.
As for signing Darkwa he might not have been willing to sign a one year deal. Again, in football terms it is a zero risk move so....

FrenchSkin 08-21-2018 01:32 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/08/21/adrian-peterson-signs-with-washington-for-league-minimum/[/url]

Vet min 1.05M, only 600K would count against the cap, nothing if he doesn't make the 53.

I'm 100 % on board with the football move then.

As for the ethical part of it, I'll let the justice of your country decide, don't consider my opinion on that is relevant.

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GridIron26 08-21-2018 03:08 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=MTK;1198344][URL="https://www.si.com/nfl/2016/01/05/adrian-peterson-vikings-parenting-child-abuse-case"]Adrian Peterson on parenting, forgiveness, being a public pariah[/URL][/quote]

Great article.. I think this is a great example of how important it is for everyone to get full context before judging anyone.

MTK 08-21-2018 03:11 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
He’s wearing #26 in case anyone was worried about that

sdskinsfan2001 08-21-2018 03:27 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
I was already looking forward to game 3, as that's typically the best one to watch. Just got a bit more interesting.

SkinsGuru 08-21-2018 03:30 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[quote=MTK;1198344][URL="https://www.si.com/nfl/2016/01/05/adrian-peterson-vikings-parenting-child-abuse-case"]Adrian Peterson on parenting, forgiveness, being a public pariah[/URL][/quote]

and since then has been accused multiple times of child abuse . . . abusers will always say they are sorry and have changed . . . but almost always they don't and when you continue to be accused, you haven't period . . . he should be in prison, thats all!!!

punch it in 08-21-2018 03:44 PM

Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
[QUOTE=GridIron26;1198354]Great article.. I think this is a great example of how important it is for everyone to get full context before judging anyone.[/QUOTE]



What I gather is outside the time he beat a 4 year old with a stick on the arms legs back and nuts and than said he didn’t mean it is that he is a pretty good dude. Uh...yeah no.
I mean as far as full context before judging someone there is literally nothing that you could put in front of the words ...”and that is why i beat the 4 year old over his entire body with a stick” that would make it ok. Hold a gun to my head and order me to do such things and my reply would be “pull the trigger”.

skinsfan69 08-21-2018 04:18 PM

Re: Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson
 
I couldn't even finish readying that bullshit article. AP hit a 4 year old in the fucking nuts with a tree limb. Just stop and think about that.

I realize that a lot of NFL players are not going to be Kirk Cousins or Darrell Green types. And I can tolerate a lot of shit, drinking, drugs, gambling and so on. It's all part of life and growing up. Young guys w/ money are going to screw up all the time. But when you do what he did, or what Ray Rice did, that's where you have to draw the line and say.. " this guy just can't play here."


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