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KI Skins Fan 10-11-2018 08:43 AM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
What happens if we get blown out by Carolina at home?

skinsfaninok 10-11-2018 09:03 AM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1202637]What happens if we get blown out by Carolina at home?[/quote]

Then most likely things will start to steam roll downhill with losses. I think we win this game because guys will be playing with pride and effort. Our Defense will be better too, the panthers don't have Brees and those weapons in a dome.

GridIron26 10-11-2018 09:11 AM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
For those people who are calling Redskins FO to fire Gruden, read this: [url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/10/10/17961480/be-careful-what-you-wish-for-when-considering-replacing-jay-gruden[/url]


Please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend Gruden. Gruden said it perfectly after the game, the game result reflects Gruden and coaches' inadequate preparation. Gruden never prepare team well for games played nationally. Firing Gruden is easy way to go but like the article explains, it doesn't always result in positive change in future. Also, we need to consider the fact that Alex Smith fits in Gruden's style well; if we fire Gruden then we likely would need to find new QB. Yes, Alex played shitty last Monday but the fact is we still have 12 more games to go. Cousins always played well in meaningless games and choked in big games. Alex so far have shown us that he can play well or shitty in meaningless games, we haven't seen how he handles big games.. Also, it doesn't look like we will have opportunity to draft top-ranked QBs next year. This would mean we might need to trade up to draft QB if we fire Gruden and hires a coach who wants his own QB.. The trade up in draft for RG3 strategy didn't work out well for us, and there is no guarantee that it will work for us this time. Let's say we fire Gruden, hire new coach and he wants new QB so we trade up for a QB, giving up two 1st round picks (maybe more than that). We eventually realize the QB we drafted is a bust. This means we are fucked for next few years.

I really wish we tried harder to keep McVay. I know McVay took over NFL by surprise and he got into right situation where the team generally had players McVay could utilize well. But still, based on stories I have read about McVay, it surprises me how Redskins didn't do everything they could to keep McVay on the team.

skinsfan69 10-11-2018 09:29 AM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
So I was listening to 106.7 yesterday. And I forgot who the guest was but he had this source who he swore by. But this person was mentioning that the reason we didn't re up w/ doing practices w/ New England was that their staff or Belichick felt the Redskins were not prepared to practice with them. The Redskins were not ready to practice for training camp on their level.

KI Skins Fan 10-11-2018 09:35 AM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
I was fortunate to live through the George Allen and Joe Gibbs I years. I know what a winning HC looks like. I know what going into every game certain that our team will play hard and knowing that they can beat any opponent feels like. This is not it.

Whether or not Jay Gruden lasts the entire season means nothing to me but his contract must not be extended beyond this season. We should all know who he is by now. He is the most mediocre of all mediocre NFL head coaches. We will never get to the Super Bowl with him at the helm.

Chico23231 10-11-2018 09:37 AM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
[quote=GridIron26;1202640]For those people who are calling Redskins FO to fire Gruden, read this: [url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/10/10/17961480/be-careful-what-you-wish-for-when-considering-replacing-jay-gruden[/url]


Please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend Gruden. Gruden said it perfectly after the game, the game result reflects Gruden and coaches' inadequate preparation. Gruden never prepare team well for games played nationally. Firing Gruden is easy way to go but like the article explains, it doesn't always result in positive change in future. Also, we need to consider the fact that Alex Smith fits in Gruden's style well; if we fire Gruden then we likely would need to find new QB. Yes, Alex played shitty last Monday but the fact is we still have 12 more games to go. Cousins always played well in meaningless games and choked in big games. Alex so far have shown us that he can play well or shitty in meaningless games, we haven't seen how he handles big games.. Also, it doesn't look like we will have opportunity to draft top-ranked QBs next year. This would mean we might need to trade up to draft QB if we fire Gruden and hires a coach who wants his own QB.. The trade up in draft for RG3 strategy didn't work out well for us, and there is no guarantee that it will work for us this time. Let's say we fire Gruden, hire new coach and he wants new QB so we trade up for a QB, giving up two 1st round picks (maybe more than that). We eventually realize the QB we drafted is a bust. This means we are fucked for next few years.

I really wish we tried harder to keep McVay. I know McVay took over NFL by surprise and he got into right situation where the team generally had players McVay could utilize well. But still, based on stories I have read about McVay, it surprises me how Redskins didn't do everything they could to keep McVay on the team.[/quote]

Gridiron in this post, who are the decisions makers? That's your answer.

BaltimoreSkins 10-11-2018 10:15 AM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1202637]What happens if we get blown out by Carolina at home?[/quote]

Washington has one of the worst home field advantages in the NFL. They have also been beat 5 consecutive times by the Panthers three times away and twice at home. If Washington wants to make the playoffs they need to live by the old adage to making the playoffs: Take care of business at home and split on the road. I just don't see it happening.

skinsfan69 10-11-2018 10:16 AM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1202644]I was fortunate to live through the George Allen and Joe Gibbs I years. I know what a winning HC looks like. I know what going into every game certain that our team will play hard and knowing that they can beat any opponent feels like. This is not it.

Whether or not Jay Gruden lasts the entire season means nothing to me but his contract must not be extended beyond this season. We should all know who he is by now. He is the most mediocre of all mediocre NFL head coaches. We will never get to the Super Bowl with him at the helm.[/quote]

Snyder will probably never fire a coach mid season again. That never works anyway.

Also I can't believe it but we're in 1st place in the NFC Least.

5superbowls3wins 10-11-2018 11:24 AM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1202643]So I was listening to 106.7 yesterday. And I forgot who the guest was but he had this source who he swore by. But this person was mentioning that the reason we didn't re up w/ doing practices w/ New England was that their staff or Belichick felt the Redskins were not prepared to practice with them. The Redskins were not ready to practice for training camp on their level.[/QUOTE]



Maybe that explains all the injuries. Maybe they’re not in football shape


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punch it in 10-11-2018 04:55 PM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1202636]Another telling stat.



With Sean Mcvay calling plays we had a top 10 Offense



Since he has left and Jay is calling plays.



16th and 21st (2017, 2018).



20 PPG.[/QUOTE]



If you can talk about McVay I can talk about Cousins. Lol

DYoungJelly 10-12-2018 09:48 PM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
Cooley has a brand new podcast with film breakdowns.

The name is "Kickoff at the Park"

Just found it, the 1st episode is the Saint's game film breakdown.

Haven't listened yet.

MTK 10-12-2018 10:36 PM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
[quote=DYoungJelly;1202736]Cooley has a brand new podcast with film breakdowns.

The name is "Kickoff at the Park"

Just found it, the 1st episode is the Saint's game film breakdown.

Haven't listened yet.[/quote]

It’s vintage Cooley with his film breakdown, great stuff

He’s also been on Sheehans podcast a couple of times now sounds like they’re working on doing a regular spot

DYoungJelly 10-13-2018 12:38 PM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
Wow!

Ryan Anderson graded out as the best OLB.

Cooley said he has to get more snaps.

Impact player, especially in the run game.

Called him a chance taker, but in a smart way.



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Chico23231 10-13-2018 01:30 PM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
[quote=DYoungJelly;1202759]Wow!

Ryan Anderson graded out as the best OLB.

Cooley said he has to get more snaps.

Impact player, especially in the run game.

Called him a chance taker, but in a smart way.



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I agree here...like to see him replace Preston Smith going forward. Smith doesn’t have a future here...no way I’m giving him big money.

Another wrinkle I’d like to see is a throw to Anderson when he lines up as a fullback. People have him keyed only as a blocker...I say throw it to him on a play action on like a second and goal.

sdskinsfan2001 10-13-2018 02:32 PM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
If we did resign Preston I'd tell him he's being used as a rotational player at DE. Someone will pay Preston tho, so I don't see him staying.

We need at least 2 new OLBs next year. We need some speed on the edge badly.

Giantone 10-14-2018 10:47 AM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
[quote=mooby;1202599]The only way we wouldn't bounce back from this is if we had no leaders in the locker room. I think we do, and I expect them to lead by example this week.

Also it's disappointing to hear what Hall said about Norman, but I would hope after the game he had last week he'd focus on what's important this week.[/quote]

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/jay-gruden-reportedly-yanked-headphones-130655107.html[/url]


Sports
Jay Gruden reportedly yanked headphones off Josh Norman’s head
Michael David Smith,ProFootball Talk on NBC Sports

According to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network, the incident began when Gruden stepped to the front of the locker room to address the team. Norman had his headphones on, which is normal for him at halftime. But Norman also had his back to Gruden, which meant Norman didn’t realize that Grudent had started talking. That prompted Gruden to yank the headphones off Norman’s head.

That resulted in Norman getting very upset and walking away, with Gruden calling after him, “If you keep walking, you’re not going to start the second half.”

Norman did not start the second half, for reasons Gruden declined to explain. But that appears to be the reason.

MTK 10-14-2018 10:49 AM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
[quote=DYoungJelly;1202759]Wow!

Ryan Anderson graded out as the best OLB.

Cooley said he has to get more snaps.

Impact player, especially in the run game.

Called him a chance taker, but in a smart way.



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But... I thought he was a bust??

sdskinsfan2001 10-14-2018 11:11 AM

Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread
 
[quote=MTK;1202774]But... I thought he was a bust??[/quote]

Make him a starter, then we'll only need 8 more Bama players to have a Roll Tide defense. I want to keep Moreau, Dunbar, Ioannidis, Brown, and Kerrigan, so we need to send them all to Bama to finish their degrees or get graduate degrees.


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