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dmek25 12-30-2006 11:22 AM

Portis trade rumor
 
i was just reading fox sports web page, and it says that the Texans are going to pursue postis in the off season. coach kubiak basically runs the same offense that portis had in Denver. i do not want portis traded, but just for discussion, if the skins would go thru with it, what do the texans have that the skins could possibly want?

Redskin 12-30-2006 11:34 AM

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That first round draft pick that I cant remember the name off.....

dmek25 12-30-2006 11:36 AM

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mario williams? straight up?

jamf 12-30-2006 11:56 AM

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I would take Williams and Dunta Robinson for Portis. Screw anything else.

chrisl4064 12-30-2006 11:57 AM

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how about thier numer one corner and a linebacker in all honesty.

LMsexyAO 12-30-2006 12:04 PM

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Glad we're back to the "sell your leg to buy an arm" attitude. It's worked so well for us in the past.

Trades>Draft any day..

12thMan 12-30-2006 12:11 PM

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I'd take D,Mico Ryan (sp) and a first rounder for CP.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 12-30-2006 12:30 PM

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I just vomited...its getting harder and harder to pull for this team...go skins?

GoSkins! 12-30-2006 12:43 PM

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mario williams for portis... but we would have to throw in a draft pick for historical purposes.


(Seriously... no way!)

redsk1 12-30-2006 12:44 PM

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I couldn't find it. Do you have a link? Just b/c the texans want a trade doesn't mean we do.

For conversation sake, it would take alot. Starting w/ this years #1 pick.

RobH4413 12-30-2006 12:53 PM

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It would take a whole lot for us to do it. I almost want to say I wouldn't do it...

This years first rounder followed by a hell of a lot of other stuff, mabye...

I generally think the "if it aint broke don't fix it" policy probably should apply. Portis is one of the greatest in the game, and he definitly shouldn't leave.

djnemo65 12-30-2006 01:16 PM

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Link please? Thank you!!!!

SmootSmack 12-30-2006 01:17 PM

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[QUOTE=dmek25;264756]i was just reading fox sports web page, and it says that the Texans are going to pursue postis in the off season. coach kubiak basically runs the same offense that portis had in Denver. i do not want portis traded, but just for discussion, if the skins would go thru with it, what do the texans have that the skins could possibly want?[/QUOTE]

A link would be nice. The only thing remotely close that I've found is this

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jm-nfcneeds122906&prov=yhoo&type=lgns]Quick jump on '07 - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

"The impressive play of Ladell Betts in the absence of Clinton Portis gives them a huge chip to use on the open market, as either player could potentially bring back a starter and draft choice, or just a high-round selection. The Texans would probably greatly prefer an established star back over the potential of a rookie that could struggle early to adapt to the NFL game. "

VTSkins897 12-30-2006 01:53 PM

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move along, nothing to see here...

in all honesty, this is one that i'm going to wait out. i'm not touching this one.

riggoraider 12-30-2006 01:56 PM

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[quote=jamf;264759]I would take Williams and Dunta Robinson for Portis. Screw anything else.[/quote]

For Williams we would have to be the team that gives up two players.Portis and a draft pick probably but that is not going to happen

dmek25 12-30-2006 02:29 PM

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[quote=12thMan;264762]I'd take D,Mico Ryan (sp) and a first rounder for CP.[/quote]
demeco ryans is one helluva of a middle linebacker. and i dont know how to post the link. sorry, im a computer dummy

dmek25 12-30-2006 02:45 PM

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Clinton Portis - #26 - Running back - 5'11" - 205lbs
News: Houston may reportedly show interest in Clinton Portis this offseason.
Impact: Here we go. Along with Ron Dayne, Portis, who has a history in Gary Kubiak's scheme, would form one of the league's premier backfields. This would free up the Texans to choose a first-round defensive back, defensive end, or even quarterback. Re-working Portis' contract to make it tradable would be the biggest obstacle for a blockbuster like this. (Fri. Dec 29, 2006)
this is the best i could do, being a computer newbie

SmootSmack 12-30-2006 02:46 PM

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[QUOTE=dmek25;264779]demeco ryans is one helluva of a middle linebacker. and i dont know how to post the link. sorry, im a computer dummy[/QUOTE]

Check your PM, dmek

dmek25 12-30-2006 02:49 PM

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gotcha

SmootSmack 12-30-2006 02:51 PM

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Here's the link:

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team?statsId=28]FOX Sports - NFL - Washington Redskins Team Front[/url]

Left hand column, under Fantasy News-Clinton Portis

Appropriately under "Fantasy" 'cause I think that's all this is. Just a fantasy.

dmek25 12-30-2006 02:55 PM

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thanks tafkas

SkinEmAll 12-30-2006 03:18 PM

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We cant afford a #1 draft pick!! Its not gonna happen anyway, unless they make a deal to sweet to pass up. And it would have to be real sweet. Personally I like to see us trade our #1 for a couple more picks. Im just not sold on #1s anymore, not for the money they get before they even suit up. So many are just not worth it.

ncskinsfanec 12-30-2006 03:27 PM

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We'd be crazy to trade Portis!

dall-assblows 12-30-2006 03:41 PM

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lets get there number 1 draft pick in this years draft

Schneed10 12-30-2006 03:53 PM

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The Texans may be thinking about pursuing Portis, but as soon as they initiate discussions with Gibbs they'll realize he's not for sale.

Gibbs will NEVER trade Portis. No way, no how. First off, he LOVES Portis. Secondly, we'd have to take a big salary cap hit to trade one of our best players. Not gonna happen.

I love idiotic trade rumors that don't give consideration to the salary cap. It's the #1 way to tell if a rumor is just that.

Schneed10 12-30-2006 03:57 PM

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PS Trading Portis would force us to carry $8.1 million in deadcap money in 2007. Portis is scheduled to count a lot in 2007 as it currently stands: $7.0 million. So it doesn't seem like going from $7.0 to $8.1 would be a big deal.

But the team fully expects to restructure Portis' contract to pay him what he's owed, yet reduce that $7.0 million cap figure.

To be fair to Fox Sports, all they said was the Texans plan to pursue Portis. They said nothing about whether we'd be willing to discuss it. Close examination of the situation tells us there's no way in hell we'd consider it.

dall-assblows 12-30-2006 03:59 PM

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but if the trade were to happen who from the texans would you want?

just go along.

SmootSmack 12-30-2006 04:00 PM

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;264799]To be fair to Fox Sports, all they said was the Texans plan to pursue Portis. They said nothing about whether we'd be willing to discuss it. Close examination of the situation tells us there's no way in hell we'd consider it.[/QUOTE]

They didn't even say that. All they said was "may reportedly show interest" And all because Portis used to play for Kubiak. This is not unlike people speculating bringing Trent Green here because he used to play for Saunders.

theJBexperience 12-30-2006 04:01 PM

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[quote=12thMan;264762]I'd take D,Mico Ryan (sp) and a first rounder for CP.[/quote]

That sounds about right. I wonder what the Texans will put on the table. I'm not sure they'd want to part with Demeco or a first rounder, but Portis garnered the best cornerback in the league and a #2 before, so the Texans would have to trade one of their best players, but that isn't saying a whole lot, so a #1 might be necessary too.

I'd hate to see Clinton go though. He struggled in Saunders' offense. I wonder if he'd want to return to Kubiak's O. He seems like a diehard Redskin though, so what would Ladell Betts garner in trade bait?

dall-assblows 12-30-2006 04:07 PM

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[quote=theJBexperience;264802]That sounds about right. I wonder what the Texans will put on the table. I'm not sure they'd want to part with Demeco or a first rounder, but Portis garnered the best cornerback in the league and a #2 before, so the Texans would have to trade one of their best players, but that isn't saying a whole lot, so a #1 might be necessary too.

I'd hate to see Clinton go though. [B]He struggled in Saunders'[/B] offense. I wonder if he'd want to return to Kubiak's O. He seems like a diehard Redskin though, so what would Ladell Betts garner in trade bait?[/quote]

he was injuried. i expect big thangs next year from Mr. Portis

riggoraider 12-30-2006 04:38 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;264797]The Texans may be thinking about pursuing Portis, but as soon as they initiate discussions with Gibbs they'll realize he's not for sale.

Gibbs will NEVER trade Portis. No way, no how. First off, he LOVES Portis. Secondly, we'd have to take a big salary cap hit to trade one of our best players. Not gonna happen.

I love idiotic trade rumors that don't give consideration to the salary cap. It's the #1 way to tell if a rumor is just that.[/quote]

I do not think that the trade will happen but I am not as sure as schneed10 is about that. I have seen stranger thing happen, cap space or not.

The love affair between Gibbs and Portis may have hit a snag or two when Portis was pouting about playing in pre-season games and would not let it go. That along with the way Al Saunders compliments Betts may make this rumor more of a reality than we think.

Redskinhog1963 12-30-2006 05:07 PM

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how about the kid,mario williams from nc state?i do'nt think the skins will trade portis.all of the great redskins teams of the past have had 2 good running backs,and i do'nt think gibbs will change that in the off-season!

Longtimefan 12-30-2006 06:43 PM

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If you were a GM, would you trade your #1 pick for a RB coming off major shoulder surgery? We have to do some major re-working of some contracts already existing on the team, another #1 in conjunction with our own would be a bit much, unless the intent would be to trade that pick also. With Betts history of injury problems, we may have to take a long hard look at trading Portis, which I don't think Gibbs would do anyway.

Jamaican'Skin 12-30-2006 06:52 PM

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Disclaimer: Portis is not and will not be traded

...................but if the Texans were offereing POrtis would be worth

1. This year's 1st round pick
2. Next year's first round pick
3. David Carr
4. Mario Williams
5. Dunta Robinson
6. D'meco Ryans
7. Gary Kubiak
8. The Texans logo
9. The Texans alternat away jersey
10. Season Ticket passes to the Texans

riggoraider 12-30-2006 06:58 PM

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[quote=Jamaican'Skin;264836]Disclaimer: Portis is not and will not be traded

...................but if the Texans were offereing POrtis would be worth

1. This year's 1st round pick
2. Next year's first round pick
3. David Carr
4. Mario Williams
5. Dunta Robinson
6. D'meco Ryans
7. Gary Kubiak
8. The Texans logo
9. The Texans alternat away jersey
10. Season Ticket passes to the Texans[/quote]

how could you be so certain?

and what would you do, after writing all of this, if he is traded for 1 draft pick?

Because if he is traded that is probably all that we would receive for him

Jamaican'Skin 12-30-2006 07:04 PM

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Because The kid is one of our core players, and due t recent behavior by the FO (the contract extention of LB), I don't see the kid being traded unless all of those things are offered

riggoraider 12-30-2006 07:09 PM

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[quote=Jamaican'Skin;264841]Because The kid is one of our core players, and due t recent behavior by the FO (the contract extention of LB), I don't see the kid being traded unless all of those things are offered[/quote]

I am hoping that he is not traded either but ,like I said earlier, I have seen stranger things happen...hell...The Colts traded Marshall Faulk when he was a core player and it worked out good for the Colts and Faulk AND the Rams did not have to trade their whole team and waterboys to get Faulk...LB's contract extension has nothing to do with Portis

Jamaican'Skin 12-30-2006 07:15 PM

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In my opinion it does. It shows the FOs faithfulness to players that prove their worth. Portis has more than done that

riggoraider 12-30-2006 07:23 PM

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[quote=Jamaican'Skin;264844]In my opinion it does. It shows the FOs faithfulness to players that prove their worth. Portis has more than done that[/quote]

Your opinion is yours and I will respect that butif there is one thing that I have learned in my years of being a football fan it would be that you can never say never. IF and I said IF Portis was to be traded he would not be the best player ever traded in the NFL

davy 12-30-2006 07:29 PM

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Personally I would love to see us get rid of Portis before the next seemingly inevitable season ending injury.

Besides, he's an attention seeking whiner and we'd be better off without him. :)


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