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mooby 10-12-2021 12:55 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1295326]I think the Rog is smiling from ear to ear but regardless of the past Goodell isn’t covering this up. Not for friends or enemies. Unless he doesn’t like his job either.[/quote]

I think Snyder and co. are being covered up - the investigation is over and the only result we got was a $10 million fine and an oral report. Aka a "they did bad but there are no specifics beyond what's already been reported."

I believe it's because there are plenty of people league wide that have plenty of things to hide and don't want this spreading. You think Jon Gruden and Bruce Allen were the only bad players in that conversation?

punch it in 10-12-2021 01:58 PM

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On msnbc Peter King just threw Snyder right under the bus. Talking about how Snyder always goes unscathed. Blaming him for the culture. Frat boys harassing women club. Please let this gain fuckin traction.

punch it in 10-12-2021 02:02 PM

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[QUOTE=mooby;1295344]I think Snyder and co. are being covered up - the investigation is over and the only result we got was a $10 million fine and an oral report. Aka a "they did bad but there are no specifics beyond what's already been reported."

I believe it's because there are plenty of people league wide that have plenty of things to hide and don't want this spreading. You think Jon Gruden and Bruce Allen were the only bad players in that conversation?[/QUOTE]


Snyder votes for Goodell. Gruden doesn’t. Not saying nobody else should be in trouble but this isn’t a Gruden witch hunt. Thats all.

Is it a cover up for Dan? To an extent. But certainly this wasn’t all because Goodell wanted Gruden gone.

The shit came out and the little guys got fired and thevbig boys got their wrists slapped.

punch it in 10-12-2021 02:08 PM

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Dan Snyder is a squirmy little heartless piece of trash. He is an embarrassment of a man and an owner. If we could get every single fan together to boycott games that would be fantastic.

SunnySide 10-12-2021 02:12 PM

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I love the title to this thread ... but i dont get the reference. Can someone explain?

punch it in 10-12-2021 02:21 PM

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1295363]I love the title to this thread ... but i dont get the reference. Can someone explain?[/QUOTE]


[url]https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Buttery%20Males[/url]

skinsfaninok 10-12-2021 02:32 PM

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NFL Players Association urges release of emails in Washington Football Team probe after Jon Gruden resigns [url]https://usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2021/10/12/jon-gruden-emails-washington-football-team-investigation/8422040002/[/url] via
@USATODAY

skinsfaninok 10-12-2021 02:33 PM

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fuck yeah, get rid of DS!!!

BaltimoreSkins 10-12-2021 02:36 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1295367]NFL Players Association urges release of emails in Washington Football Team probe after Jon Gruden resigns [url]https://usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2021/10/12/jon-gruden-emails-washington-football-team-investigation/8422040002/[/url] via
@USATODAY[/quote]

The weakest union in professional sports is demanding something? Let me know how that goes.

skinsfaninok 10-12-2021 02:47 PM

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650,000 emails.

Jon Gruden's alone leak.

On the NFL's selective transparency, and why Daniel Snyder has been protected at all costs—even if the cost is the credibility of an eight-figure investigation.

[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/10/12/jon-gruden-more-consequences-than-daniel-snyder-nfl-business[/url]

SunnySide 10-12-2021 03:41 PM

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Powerful as he might have seemed, Gruden is just another cow. And Washington owner Daniel Snyder is a rancher. And NFL owners, in private settings, aren’t shy about reminding people of these realities.

This, then, was a public show of them.

Gruden’s emails became public as a result of an independent investigation the NFL commissioned into the workplace culture of the Washington Football Team—a probe that was prompted by reporting in The Washington Post that pointed the finger right at Snyder, among others. The investigation took 11 months, and its completion was greeted by the NFL with a broom swiftly sweeping it under the rug.

The league released the news just before the four-day Fourth of July weekend, refused to make specifics of Beth Wilkinson’s findings public and, presumably, crossed its fingers that questions directed at Snyder’s involvement would simply go away. Remember, this is a league that published a 243-page report on Tom Brady’s deflating footballs, a 144-page report on Richie Incognito’s harassing teammate Jonathan Martin, and a 96-page report on Ray Rice’s domestic violence case. All of those reports can still be found, in full, online.

Those reports are on the cattle. Conveniently enough, you won’t find ranchers implicated in them.

-- decent writing found in a sports article? Surprising. Most sports articles read like a bot writing from a box score.

punch it in 10-12-2021 04:23 PM

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What I do not understand is this. The owners keep Goodell in power. Ok. So if DS was forced to sell would the next owner not vote for Goodell? I would think he or she or they would because Goodell getting helping get rid of DS is why he or she or they would be there. Also doesn’t Goodell ever get sick of the bad image DS brings to the league? It seems to me that every other owner and Goodell would want nothing more than to oust DS?

mooby 10-12-2021 04:29 PM

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[quote=SunnySide;1295373]Powerful as he might have seemed, Gruden is just another cow. And Washington owner Daniel Snyder is a rancher. And NFL owners, in private settings, aren’t shy about reminding people of these realities.

This, then, was a public show of them.

Gruden’s emails became public as a result of an independent investigation the NFL commissioned into the workplace culture of the Washington Football Team—a probe that was prompted by reporting in The Washington Post that pointed the finger right at Snyder, among others. The investigation took 11 months, and its completion was greeted by the NFL with a broom swiftly sweeping it under the rug.

The league released the news just before the four-day Fourth of July weekend, refused to make specifics of Beth Wilkinson’s findings public and, presumably, crossed its fingers that questions directed at Snyder’s involvement would simply go away. Remember, this is a league that published a 243-page report on Tom Brady’s deflating footballs, a 144-page report on Richie Incognito’s harassing teammate Jonathan Martin, and a 96-page report on Ray Rice’s domestic violence case. All of those reports can still be found, in full, online.

Those reports are on the cattle. Conveniently enough, you won’t find ranchers implicated in them.

-- decent writing found in a sports article? Surprising. Most sports articles read like a bot writing from a box score.[/quote]

Nailed it.

I can only hope Snyder isn't as untouchable as he looks right now.

Stacks42 10-12-2021 09:19 PM

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“We have had communications with the league, and the NFLPA plans to request that the NFL release the rest of the emails.”

⁃ NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith

mooby 10-12-2021 10:29 PM

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[quote=Stacks42;1295402]“We have had communications with the league, and the NFLPA plans to request that the NFL release the rest of the emails.”

⁃ NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith[/quote]

"No"

- The NFL

The NFLPA is gonna have to try harder than that to see what else the league is hiding.

irish 10-13-2021 06:36 AM

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The NFL wont release WFT emails.

[url]https://wtop.com/washington-football/2021/10/fallout-continues-from-gruden-resignation-over-emails/[/url]

punch it in 10-13-2021 06:53 AM

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Even if they did Snyder will only somehow grow stronger.

skinsfan69 10-13-2021 08:50 AM

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Still can not believe that the league did a massive investigation on whether Brady deflated footballs. I mean what a fucking clown show that was. What a waste of time and money. Of all the things they could spend time on making the game better they went FBI on deflated footballs. What a bunch of idiots.

Giantone 10-13-2021 09:06 AM

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Ok , just trying to understand something here. What was it that made the NFL go after the Owner of the Panthers a few years ago but this isn't worth the trouble? No way Gruden and Allen had 650,000 emails between themselves . While I don't think this is the norm for the whole NFL, ...it happens and it needs to be stopped.

mooby 10-13-2021 09:41 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1295419]Still can not believe that the league did a massive investigation on whether Brady deflated footballs. I mean what a fucking clown show that was. What a waste of time and money. Of all the things they could spend time on making the game better they went FBI on deflated footballs. What a bunch of idiots.[/quote]

220 page report on deflating footballs, but Wilkinson only had to submit an oral report on decades of Redskins dysfunction.

irish 10-13-2021 10:30 AM

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[quote=Giantone;1295425]Ok , just trying to understand something here. [B]What was it that made the NFL go after the Owner of the Panthers a few years ago [/B]but this isn't worth the trouble? No way Gruden and Allen had 650,000 emails between themselves . While I don't think this is the norm for the whole NFL, ...it happens and it needs to be stopped.[/quote]

Good question. Its almost like Gruden and the Carolina owner ticked off the wrong person.

Redskins247 10-13-2021 10:58 AM

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[quote=Giantone;1295425]Ok , just trying to understand something here. What was it that made the NFL go after the Owner of the Panthers a few years ago but this isn't worth the trouble? No way Gruden and Allen had 650,000 emails between themselves . While I don't think this is the norm for the whole NFL, ...it happens and it needs to be stopped.[/quote]

Pretty sure Jerry Richardson had a woman come out with a sexual harassment suit against him directly...and had proof or something like that. Here are couple of examples of what led to the removal of him.

Former employees allege that in addition to verbal harassment, Richardson engaged in improper acts. According to sources, on multiple occasions Richardson requested female employees to visit him during a workday in his suite inside Bank of America Stadium. The women would be escorted by Richardson’s assistant, who would then depart, leaving the owner alone with a junior employee. One former female employee recalls Richardson, who stands 6'3", arriving barefoot and asking for a foot massage. Says one such invitee: 'The first time, you thought it was an important meeting with the owner. You [then] realized it was never anything that couldn’t be discussed over the phone.' Others talk of Richardson giving back rubs that lingered too long or went too low down the spine.

Richardson was also known for what multiple women call the 'seatbelt maneuver.' He would invite female employees out to lunch, and in keeping with his reputation as a self-styled gentleman, he would open the car door for his guests. Once they were seated, however, he would insist on fastening their seatbelt for them, reaching across their lap and brushing his hand across their breasts before putting the belt in the clasp."

Unfortunately, unless the "emails" uncover something else, doesn't sound like Dan has been caught with anything close to this.

BaltimoreSkins 10-13-2021 11:10 AM

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I am actually surprised we haven't seen a petition to the NFL from fans demanding the publication of the WFT investigation

Giantone 10-13-2021 11:48 AM

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[quote=Redskins247;1295436]Pretty sure Jerry Richardson had a woman come out with a sexual harassment suit against him directly...and had proof or something like that. Here are couple of examples of what led to the removal of him.

Former employees allege that in addition to verbal harassment, Richardson engaged in improper acts. According to sources, on multiple occasions Richardson requested female employees to visit him during a workday in his suite inside Bank of America Stadium. The women would be escorted by Richardson’s assistant, who would then depart, leaving the owner alone with a junior employee. One former female employee recalls Richardson, who stands 6'3", arriving barefoot and asking for a foot massage. Says one such invitee: 'The first time, you thought it was an important meeting with the owner. You [then] realized it was never anything that couldn’t be discussed over the phone.' Others talk of Richardson giving back rubs that lingered too long or went too low down the spine.

Richardson was also known for what multiple women call the 'seatbelt maneuver.' He would invite female employees out to lunch, and in keeping with his reputation as a self-styled gentleman, he would open the car door for his guests. Once they were seated, however, he would insist on fastening their seatbelt for them, reaching across their lap and brushing his hand across their breasts before putting the belt in the clasp."

Unfortunately, unless the "emails" uncover something else, doesn't sound like Dan has been caught with anything close to this.[/quote]

Forcing your cheerleading squad to pose topless is pretty close.

MTK 10-13-2021 11:59 AM

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Considering he's not very popular with other owners or probably anyone in the league offices, if there was a stone cold lead pipe lock of a smoking gun to get rid of Snyder it would have been done by now. Dream on folks.

Redskins247 10-13-2021 12:01 PM

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[quote=Giantone;1295440]Forcing your cheerleading squad to pose topless is pretty close.[/quote]

Definitely agreed...however, unless those cheerleaders come forward and say they were forced to pose and by whom that is somehow linked to Dan...nothing will come from that. Dan will just say that was all Bruce...or one of the others that have been fired, and he'll say he has corrected the problem.

Chico23231 10-13-2021 12:05 PM

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[quote=MTK;1295441]Considering he's not very popular with other owners or probably anyone in the league offices, if there was a stone cold lead pipe lock of a smoking gun to get rid of Snyder it would have been done by now. Dream on folks.[/quote]

Yeah the story wouldn’t be Gruden by wsj or nyt…the bigger fish woulda been Snyder and cover up by the league

Ruhskins 10-13-2021 01:12 PM

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[quote=MTK;1295441]Considering he's not very popular with other owners or probably anyone in the league offices, if there was a stone cold lead pipe lock of a smoking gun to get rid of Snyder it would have been done by now. Dream on folks.[/quote]

It may sound like I'm joking, but people tend to forget that the team owners and the NFL are the same. Unless there is something completely blatant (like Richardson's harassing women in his organization), the owners as a group are not going to can another owner (see Bob Kraft).

mooby 10-13-2021 01:15 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1295443]Yeah the story wouldn’t be Gruden by wsj or nyt…the bigger fish woulda been Snyder and cover up by the league[/quote]

What if Bruce was sending cheerleader nudes all over the league and they didn't want to kill the golden goose?

Also by Bruce sending them it wouldn't implicate Snyder directly either.

Ruhskins 10-13-2021 01:16 PM

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Also, this is interesting:

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/13/bruce-allen-emails-include-adam-schefter-seeking-feedback-on-unpublished-story/[/url]

Looks like Bruce was a source for Schefty.

Chico23231 10-13-2021 01:25 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1295454]Also, this is interesting:

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/13/bruce-allen-emails-include-adam-schefter-seeking-feedback-on-unpublished-story/[/url]

Looks like Bruce was a source for Schefty.[/quote]

Florio going after Schefty.

SkinzWin 10-13-2021 10:10 PM

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I mean with our historically record low attendance this season it seems like the fans are doing their best to beat Dan the only way they can, through his wallet. We can’t control him selling the team, but if there was a fan base grass roots movement to stop coming to games and buying merch, maybe that would be the necessary step to get rid of Dan. Might have to play the long game, but hell, we’ve been in purgatory the last 2 years anyways, what’s wrong with a self imposed couple years of suffering for the greater good in the future. Nothing else has worked.

EdmundDorf 10-14-2021 01:57 AM

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[quote=MTK;1295441]Considering he's not very popular with other owners or probably anyone in the league offices, if there was a stone cold lead pipe lock of a smoking gun to get rid of Snyder it would have been done by now. Dream on folks.[/quote]

Heard it reported a couple of times that Snyder doesn't use email, he communicates directly by phone so I would think you are right. Whether they like him or not, he is and always has been a major embarassment to the brand. There is probably a lot of other dirt from all 32 teams in there as well that the NFL doesn't want open to public scrutiny, Gruden is a strange case of a very focused attack from someone.

sdskinsfan2001 10-14-2021 02:15 AM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1295492]Heard it reported a couple of times that Snyder doesn't use email, he communicates directly by phone so I would think you are right. Whether they like him or not, he is and always has been a major embarassment to the brand. There is probably a lot of other dirt from all 32 teams in there as well that the NFL doesn't want open to public scrutiny, Gruden is a strange case of a very focused attack from someone.[/quote]

650K emails? Yeah, that will drag down the whole league. The league loves the league. But so do we. Can we just release the ones that force Snyder to sell, then after he sells, bring down everyone else? We've all earned a new owner.

FrenchSkin 10-14-2021 06:56 AM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1295441]Considering he's not very popular with other owners or probably anyone in the league offices, if there was a stone cold lead pipe lock of a smoking gun to get rid of Snyder it would have been done by now. Dream on folks.[/QUOTE]Good point. Only counter argument is that, no matter how they dislike Dan, they wouldn't want to set a precedent of forcing an owner to sell while most of them probably have some skeletons in their cupboards too...

But I don't think anything really big is coming out of this. Gruden must have pissed the wrong people off, and once this was leaked the league wasn't going to protect a coach at the detriment of its image. They wanted to end this mess real quick
The story would be different with an owner.

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skinsfan69 10-14-2021 08:14 AM

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When will people realize that Snyder isn't going anywhere? He is 100% owner and is here to stay.

This organization is the rock bottom of the NFL. Shitty stadium, shitty training facility, fans that are totally checked out, loser ownership, bad team w/ no QB, constant scandals going on, no team name. Ron must go to bed at night thinking was it worth it taking this job? It truly is the worst head job in the NFL.

skinsfan69 10-14-2021 08:28 AM

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[quote=Giantone;1295440]Forcing your cheerleading squad to pose topless is pretty close.[/quote]

They were not forced to do anything they did not want to do. The director was a female. This cheerleader thing was way overblown.

Giantone 10-14-2021 08:43 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1295502]They were not forced to do anything they did not want to do. The director was a female. This cheerleader thing was way overblown.[/quote]

No, BS!
[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/sports/redskins-cheerleaders-nfl.html[/url]

This article was first published May 2, 2018.

When the Washington Redskins took their cheerleading squad to Costa Rica in 2013 for a calendar photo shoot, the first cause for concern among the cheerleaders came when Redskins officials collected their passports upon arrival at the resort, depriving them of their official identification.

For the photo shoot, at the adults-only Occidental Grand Papagayo resort on Culebra Bay, some of the cheerleaders said they were required to be topless, though the photographs used for the calendar would not show nudity. Others wore nothing but body paint. Given the resort’s secluded setting, such revealing poses would not have been a concern for the women — except that the Redskins had invited spectators.

A contingent of sponsors and FedExField suite holders — all men — were granted up-close access to the photo shoots.

One evening, at the end of a 14-hour day that included posing and dance practices, the squad’s director told nine of the 36 cheerleaders that their work was not done. They had a special assignment for the night. Some of the male sponsors had picked them to be personal escorts at a nightclub.

BaltimoreSkins 10-14-2021 08:55 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1295502]They were not forced to do anything they did not want to do. The director was a female. This cheerleader thing was way overblown.[/quote]

Have to disagree here. The reports definitely show an unwillingness to participate but fearful of repercussions. I also am not sure what having a female director has anything to do with the scenario anyways.

irish 10-14-2021 08:57 AM

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1295509]Have to disagree here. The reports definitely show an unwillingness to participate but fearful of repercussions. I also am not sure what having a female director has anything to do with the scenario anyways.[/quote]

Agree. Especially when their passports had been confiscated which eliminated their ability to get out of there.


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