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FrenchSkin 10-14-2021 09:09 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1295500]When will people realize that Snyder isn't going anywhere? He is 100% owner and is here to stay.

This organization is the rock bottom of the NFL. Shitty stadium, shitty training facility, fans that are totally checked out, loser ownership, bad team w/ no QB, constant scandals going on, no team name. Ron must go to bed at night thinking was it worth it taking this job? It truly is the worst head job in the NFL.[/quote]

Yeah we have to keep in mind the level of support the NFL showed Snyder, when not only allowing him to buy out his minority owners, but going out of its way to lend him part of that money.
If there was anything bad enough to force him out they wouldn't have gone that far. The backfire potential would be way to big.

skinsfan69 10-14-2021 10:14 AM

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[quote=Giantone;1295506]No, BS!
[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/sports/redskins-cheerleaders-nfl.html[/url]

This article was first published May 2, 2018.

When the Washington Redskins took their cheerleading squad to Costa Rica in 2013 for a calendar photo shoot, the first cause for concern among the cheerleaders came when Redskins officials collected their passports upon arrival at the resort, depriving them of their official identification.

For the photo shoot, at the adults-only Occidental Grand Papagayo resort on Culebra Bay, some of the cheerleaders said they were required to be topless, though the photographs used for the calendar would not show nudity. Others wore nothing but body paint. Given the resort’s secluded setting, such revealing poses would not have been a concern for the women — except that the Redskins had invited spectators.

A contingent of sponsors and FedExField suite holders — all men — were granted up-close access to the photo shoots.

One evening, at the end of a 14-hour day that included posing and dance practices, the squad’s director told nine of the 36 cheerleaders that their work was not done. They had a special assignment for the night. Some of the male sponsors had picked them to be personal escorts at a nightclub.[/quote]

Your source is the NY Times...lol. Again, no one held a gun to their heads and told them to do what they did. They were adults. Also these were not even their jobs. Cheerleaders are not paid. All they had to do was say no. They choose not to. Not to excuse what the Redskins did, it was 100% out of line - but pretty tired of the cry wolf crap.

skinsfan69 10-14-2021 10:19 AM

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1295509]Have to disagree here. The reports definitely show an unwillingness to participate but fearful of repercussions. I also am not sure what having a female director has anything to do with the scenario anyways.[/quote]

But what were the repercussions? Loss of a salary? That wasn't it. At the end of the day you are a cheerleader, an unpaid position.

If someone puts a crack pipe in front of you and tells you to smoke it are you going to do it?

MTK 10-14-2021 10:23 AM

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Ruhskins 10-14-2021 10:28 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1295520]But what were the repercussions? Loss of a salary? That wasn't it. At the end of the day you are a cheerleader, an unpaid position.

If someone puts a crack pipe in front of you and tells you to smoke it are you going to do it?[/quote]

Dude, no offense but why are you so hell bent on this? Bunch of cheerleaders were harassed and threatened by this organization. What's the benefit to you as a person to disregard and discount what they went through?

Women put up with a lot of shit, and aren't always in a position to say no. This is an organization that has fired people for sexually harassing women, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt.

MTK 10-14-2021 10:30 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1295525]Dude, no offense but why are you so hell bent on this? Bunch of cheerleaders were harassed and threatened by this organization. What's the benefit to you as a person to disregard and discount what they went through?

Women put up with a lot of shit, and aren't always in a position to say no. [B]This is an organization that has fired people for sexually harassing women, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt[/B].[/quote]

End of story.

SunnySide 10-14-2021 10:32 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1295520]But what were the repercussions? Loss of a salary? That wasn't it. At the end of the day you are a cheerleader, an unpaid position.

If someone puts a crack pipe in front of you and tells you to smoke it are you going to do it?[/quote]

The old days of old men exerting their standing and undue influence on young ladies in the workplace is over.

Young interns dont need to "stay silent" when an older boss gets creepy.

Those days are over.

The Jon Gruden and Bruce Allens of the world are being phased out.

rocnrik 10-14-2021 10:37 AM

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I’d like to see the almighty Owners good ole boys club get axed like lowly Jon gruden … not gonna happen.. they hide behind the little guys while they get away with crap like Snyder has …I’d like to see see Snyder gone .. truth is the name is gone so might as well wipe the slate clean and start with new ownership..

skinsfan69 10-14-2021 12:13 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1295525]Dude, no offense but why are you so hell bent on this? Bunch of cheerleaders were harassed and threatened by this organization. What's the benefit to you as a person to disregard and discount what they went through?

Women put up with a lot of shit, and aren't always in a position to say no. This is an organization that has fired people for sexually harassing women, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt.[/quote]

I am not discounting it. As I said it is pretty low. My point is these women didn't act like responsible adults by choosing to take off their shirts. .

MTK 10-14-2021 12:19 PM

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What's worse the person taking off their shirt or the person asking for that to happen? Seems like there's an easy answer here as far as who the victim is.

mredskins 10-14-2021 12:23 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1295545]I am not discounting it. As I said it is pretty low. [B]My point is these women didn't act like responsible adults by choosing to take off their shirts.[/B] .[/quote]

That is borderline saying " she wore a short skirt she deserved to be rape"

Do you not think people do things because they are chorused or threaten to do the act.

punch it in 10-14-2021 01:03 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1295545]I am not discounting it. As I said it is pretty low. My point is these women didn't act like responsible adults by choosing to take off their shirts. .[/QUOTE]

Nevermind i think everyone else made the point here…

Giantone 10-14-2021 03:23 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1295545]I am not discounting it. As I said it is pretty low. My point is these women didn't act like responsible adults by choosing to take off their shirts. .[/quote]

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30874983/washington-football-team-former-cheerleaders-reach-settlement-lewd-videos[/url]

Washington Football Team, former cheerleaders reach settlement over lewd videos


The Washington Football Team reached a settlement with its former cheerleaders, who appeared in lewd videos made without their knowledge during swimsuit calendar photo shoots in 2008 and 2010.

Attorneys for both sides confirmed the settlement, which, one source said, was actually reached in 2020, though they declined to say exactly when. The terms of the settlement were not disclosed. The Washington Post first reported news of the settlement. There was no lawsuit filed.

There were two videos made from outtakes during those years in which some private parts were exposed. Certain props were used to shield those body parts and at times those props were insufficient.

The Washington Post detailed those shoots in August, with one former employee, Brad Baker, saying staffers were told to produce a video of this for owner Dan Snyder, who has denied that allegation. Baker worked in the franchise's broadcast department from 2007 to '09. The Post reported two other sources saying a similar video was produced at the behest of the team's former vice president and play-by-play announcer Larry Michael. He, too, has denied the allegation.

mredskins 10-14-2021 03:43 PM

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[quote=Giantone;1295562][url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30874983/washington-football-team-former-cheerleaders-reach-settlement-lewd-videos[/url]

Washington Football Team, former cheerleaders reach settlement over lewd videos


The Washington Football Team reached a settlement with its former cheerleaders, who appeared in lewd videos made without their knowledge during swimsuit calendar photo shoots in 2008 and 2010.

Attorneys for both sides confirmed the settlement, which, one source said, was actually reached in 2020, though they declined to say exactly when. The terms of the settlement were not disclosed. The Washington Post first reported news of the settlement. There was no lawsuit filed.

There were two videos made from outtakes during those years in which some private parts were exposed. Certain props were used to shield those body parts and at times those props were insufficient.

The Washington Post detailed those shoots in August, with one former employee, Brad Baker, saying staffers were told to produce a video of this for owner Dan Snyder, who has denied that allegation. Baker worked in the franchise's broadcast department from 2007 to '09. The Post reported two other sources saying a similar video was produced at the behest of the team's former vice president and play-by-play announcer Larry Michael. He, too, has denied the allegation.[/quote]
Not to make a joke, but I could see Dan holding up a blade grass to sheiks the private parts but they started with palm branches and just worked down in size as the shot went on.

punch it in 10-14-2021 06:27 PM

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1295562][url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30874983/washington-football-team-former-cheerleaders-reach-settlement-lewd-videos[/url]


The Washington Football Team reached a settlement with its former cheerleaders, who appeared in lewd videos made without their knowledge during swimsuit calendar photo shoots in 2008 and 2010.[/QUOTE]

All ya really need to know.
They are not in any way complicit nor were they acting inappropriate.

mooby 10-28-2021 06:34 AM

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[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/10/27/business-of-football-leaked-washington-emails?utm_source=recommendations&utm_medium=in-article&utm_campaign=end-of-story[/url]

Good read here - a week old - but good read from an insiders' perspective on the emails. The interesting part was this tidbit about why Bruce Allen was hired (hint; not for his football knowledge).

[quote=Andrew Brandt]
Allen was a master politician, and a favorite of many in power in the NFL through his stints in Oakland, Tampa and Washington. His father (George) was a highly successful coach in Washington; his brother was the governor of Virginia and, while Bruce was in the league, a U.S. senator. Snyder hired Allen to leverage those relationships—with Capitol Hill and with the league office—for the ultimate gain of WFT. The communications with Pash show Allen doing exactly what he was hired to do: gain a slight edge over other teams with Park Avenue.
[/quote]

AnonEmouse 10-28-2021 07:57 AM

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[QUOTE=mooby;1297726][url]https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/10/27/business-of-football-leaked-washington-emails?utm_source=recommendations&utm_medium=in-article&utm_campaign=end-of-story[/url]

Good read here - a week old - but good read from an insiders' perspective on the emails. The interesting part was this tidbit about why Bruce Allen was hired (hint; not for his football knowledge).[/QUOTE]

That makes some sense but why give him the de facto GM role too? His football knowledge has already been shown up as severely lacking, so it would have made much more sense to hire a genuine GM under/alongside him. All goes to show to me that Snyder may be a savvy businessman and to some extent politician, but he doesn't (even after all these years) know squat about running a football team.

OnceWeWereKings 10-28-2021 08:04 AM

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1297732]That makes some sense but why give him the de facto GM role too? His football knowledge has already been shown up as severely lacking, so it would have made much more sense to hire a genuine GM under/alongside him. All goes to show to me that Snyder may be a savvy businessman and to some extent politician, but he doesn't (even after all these years) know squat about running a football team.[/quote]

Because to Dan, this whole thing isn't about football at all. It's about maximizing profit margins and power.

mooby 10-28-2021 09:11 AM

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1297732]That makes some sense but why give him the de facto GM role too? His football knowledge has already been shown up as severely lacking, so it would have made much more sense to hire a genuine GM under/alongside him. All goes to show to me that Snyder may be a savvy businessman and to some extent politician, but he doesn't (even after all these years) know squat about running a football team.[/quote]

I assume Dan hired Allen to be his 1B - as president Allen would be in charge of hiring the football people who know what they're doing. Which - my memory is a bit hazy - he did initially. Mike Shanahan probably got GM power while he was here. When he left and Gruden came in - Gruden got Scot Mccloughan. After that experiment failed Allen probably took GM power himself which eventually helped contribute to his departure.

SkinzWin 10-28-2021 10:49 PM

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1297733]Because to Dan, this whole thing isn't about football at all. It's about maximizing profit margins and power.[/quote]

Bingo!


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