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SmootSmack 08-28-2008 01:28 PM

Re: Rudi Johnson to be traded?
 
[QUOTE=J. Spanky;468468]green bay? or houston, maybe. supposedly ahman green is dangerously close to being cut.[/QUOTE]

Green just restructured his deal so he won't get cut

doughtydoubter 08-28-2008 01:41 PM

Re: Rudi Johnson to be traded?
 
johnson...the whole cincy team just is a crumbling ship...
with ocho cinco hurt i just feel bad for carson palmer. maybe we can trade reed doughty for a pick to help them out?

jsarno 08-30-2008 12:05 AM

Re: Rudi Johnson to be traded?
 
[quote=GMScud;468391]I think a lot people said similar things about another Cincy RB four of five years ago... Corey Dillon anyone? A supposedly selfish, old, malcontent that went on to get a few rings in NE. Not saying this is the case w/ Rudi, but he's not quite 29, and could really help a team thin at RB. I don't think Cincy expects a big time #1 WR in return either, especially since word is out about their desperation in the matter.[/quote]

Good points, but keep in mind I said 1 step away. He [b][i]could[/b][/i] help someone, but not for long...a year, maybe 2 max.
As matty pointed out, Perry has been rumored to start out there anyway. He obviously doesn't have much left in the tank.

JGisLordOfTheRings 08-30-2008 01:08 AM

Re: Rudi Johnson to be traded?
 
[quote=doughtydoubter;468510]johnson...the whole cincy team just is a crumbling ship...
with ocho cinco hurt i just feel bad for carson palmer. [B]maybe we can trade reed doughty for a pick to help them out?[/B][/quote]

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BugelDisciple 08-30-2008 05:24 PM

Re: Rudi Johnson to be traded?
 
Rudi Johnson cut by the Bengals
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3561014]ESPN - Bengals cut oft-injured RB Johnson; Perry to start - NFL[/url]

This is an absolute shock, the Bengals got nothing in return for Rudi who was great until the injury plagued season last year.

hagams 08-30-2008 08:00 PM

Re: Rudi Johnson to be traded?
 
Yeah, they must know something the rest of the NFL doesn't. He really could be an asset somewhere, and now he's just floating around waiting to get picked up.

Ruhskins 08-30-2008 10:47 PM

Re: Rudi Johnson to be traded?
 
So can we say that this will be Marvin Lewis' last year coaching the Bengals?

Paintrain 08-31-2008 10:01 AM

Re: Rudi Johnson to be traded?
 
[quote=Ruhskins;469700]So can we say that this will be Marvin Lewis' last year coaching the Bengals?[/quote]

I doubt he makes it to Thanksgiving.

jsarno 09-01-2008 07:45 PM

Re: Rudi Johnson to be traded?
 
[quote=hagams;469673][b]Yeah, they must know something the rest of the NFL doesn't.[/b] He really could be an asset somewhere, and now he's just floating around waiting to get picked up.[/quote]

No, they clearly know something that you do not, and several fans do not. Rudi Johnson has next to nothing left in the tank (dejavu), there was a reason the Bengals had absolutely 0 takers for a trade.

He's working out for the freakin lions...if he was any good, a REAL team would have already snatched him up.

GMScud 09-01-2008 08:05 PM

Re: Rudi Johnson to be traded?
 
[quote=jsarno;470228]No, they clearly know something that you do not, and several fans do not. Rudi Johnson has next to nothing left in the tank (dejavu), there was a reason the Bengals had absolutely 0 takers for a trade.

He's working out for the freakin lions...if he was any good, a REAL team would have already snatched him up.[/quote]

He just signed with Detroit- 1 year deal.

djnemo65 09-01-2008 08:26 PM

Re: Rudi Johnson to be traded?
 
I know it's been said but it is amazing how quickly these running backs flame out these days. Alexander went from MVP to out of the league in 2 years. Rudi Johnson is only one year removed from 3 consecutive 12 TD seasons. Was it always like this? I seem to remember guys playing a lot longer when I was a kid.

GMScud 09-01-2008 08:59 PM

Re: Rudi Johnson to be traded?
 
[quote=djnemo65;470235]I know it's been said but it is amazing how quickly these running backs flame out these days. Alexander went from MVP to out of the league in 2 years. Rudi Johnson is only one year removed from 3 consecutive 12 TD seasons. Was it always like this? I seem to remember guys playing a lot longer when I was a kid.[/quote]

Well, the knock on both of Shuan and Rudi was toughness. They both ran fairly soft (more so with Shaun) and weren't really considered tough players. After Alexander's MVP year he got a big contract and just folded up.

djnemo65 09-01-2008 09:11 PM

Re: Rudi Johnson to be traded?
 
[quote=GMScud;470248]Well, the knock on both of Shuan and Rudi was toughness. They both ran fairly soft (more so with Shaun) and weren't really considered tough players. After Alexander's MVP year he got a big contract and just folded up.[/quote]

Well Eddie George is a guy who didn't lack toughness, who went from the best in the league to 3 yards a carry in what seemed like a season. Larry Johnson is unfortunately looking to be the next in that tradition. Ahman Green went from 1800 yard seasons to a bum in no time flat. I don't think it's toughness so much, even though the I agree with you about Alexander being a softy (read somewhere that the reason he can't get a job is that he can't block or play special teams, so unless he is a feature back he is completely worthless). I think it's just a taxing position.

Maybe it's just that I remember the Emmitt's and Barry's while forgetting about people like Barry Foster and Christian Okoye.

GMScud 09-01-2008 09:26 PM

Re: Rudi Johnson to be traded?
 
[quote=djnemo65;470252]Well Eddie George is a guy who didn't lack toughness, who went from the best in the league to 3 yards a carry in what seemed like a season. Larry Johnson is unfortunately looking to be the next in that tradition. Ahman Green went from 1800 yard seasons to a bum in no time flat. I don't think it's toughness so much, even though the I agree with you about Alexander being a softy (read somewhere that the reason he can't get a job is that he can't block or play special teams, so unless he is a feature back he is completely worthless). I think it's just a taxing position.

Maybe it's just that I remember the Emmitt's and Barry's while forgetting about people like Barry Foster and Christian Okoye.[/quote]

Just checked- Eddie George carried the ball 312+ times each of his first 8 seasons, had over 1000 yards in 7 of them and never missed a game. That's severely taxing, plus he ran so upright that he just took a pounding.

I think Herman Edwards just likes pounding RB's into retirement. He did it to Curtis Martin, and is on the way to doing that to LJ, although both of those guys are super tough.

Ahman Green suddenly turned into a walking groin injury.

But yeah, I just think it all comes down to RB being a brutally physical position. Isn't the average career for RB's like 2.3 seasons or something?

djnemo65 09-01-2008 09:30 PM

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[quote=GMScud;470255]
Ahman Green suddenly turned into [B]a walking groin injury[/B][/quote]

There's something really disturbing about the image of a walking groin injury.


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