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MTK 06-03-2020 10:14 AM

Skins getting heat again over name issue
 
[URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/06/02/washington-franchise-should-change-its-name-now/"]Washington franchise should change its name now[/URL]

skinsfaninok 06-03-2020 10:17 AM

Re: Skins getting heat again over name issue
 
Yeah it was all over twitter due to their BLM Post... I've said this for a while but eventually they will cave in and change to warriors or something

skinsfaninok 06-03-2020 10:18 AM

Re: Skins getting heat again over name issue
 
Also Florio is a bitch, he has hated the skins for years.. Dan must have banged his girl or something.

MTK 06-03-2020 10:30 AM

Re: Skins getting heat again over name issue
 
I've tried 3 times now to get this question through but they won't approve it lol

"When someone says the word Redskins these days what’s your first thought? Racial slur or the football team in DC?"

skinsfaninok 06-03-2020 10:50 AM

Re: Skins getting heat again over name issue
 
[quote=MTK;1252493]I've tried 3 times now to get this question through but they won't approve it lol

"When someone says the word Redskins these days what’s your first thought? Racial slur or the football team in DC?"[/quote]

exactly, and they wont approve because they know their narrative is false

MTK 06-03-2020 11:05 AM

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But a comment that said "Florio is right" gets approved

He's such a dweeb

BaltimoreSkins 06-03-2020 11:17 AM

Re: Skins getting heat again over name issue
 
I would even say racial slur isn't even in my top three answer choices but what do I know I am just an apologist

SunnySide 06-03-2020 11:18 AM

Re: Skins getting heat again over name issue
 
[quote=MTK;1252493]I've tried 3 times now to get this question through but they won't approve it lol

"When someone says the word Redskins these days what’s your first thought? Racial slur or the football team in DC?"[/quote]

Do native americans call themselves redskins? have they ever called themselves redskins?

I used to be mildly defending the name/indifferent .... now I think it should be changed.

I understand
- Dan Snyder and Wash Po found majority native americans dont find it offensive - theres a native american high school with "redskins" as their mascot
- our image of the chief is done with respect and honor, was designed by a native american and is nothing like the cleveland indians charicture.

But it was a term invented and used by the white man to refer to native americans. No its not the worst slur out there or in the history of time .. but it was a label originating and used by the white man.

Id put it up there with people referring to a black person as "blackie" back in the day. Yeah black people were called worse back then and "blackie" seems mild compared to it .... but its still a term originating from white men to label others, in a mildy dismissive term.

I just started playing Red Dead Redemption 2 and they used the words "redskins" and "blackies" and it had a dismissive context to the use, not one honoring them.

I vote to change the name, for what ever that is worth ... which is nada.

Burgold 06-03-2020 01:18 PM

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Ok,here we go again,first off Native Americans did refer to themselves as Redskins or Redmen as far back as the-1700's just as I and all Black persons once called ourselves-Negro which is the Spanish word for Black..it is the bastardization of the name that's insulting,now when the racist owner of the team[George Preston Marshall]moved the team here he kept the name for two reasons-he could in those days,he could care less.We have to remember that here was a man who refused to have an African American on his team until Morris Udall[Secretary Of The Interior]threatened to not let him use D.C.Stadium until he have a Black player..I'm getting long winded here but as a Black man if the team was called-The Washington Negroes-it wouldn't fly too well today,and Redskins shouldn't either!

TheMalcolmConnection 06-03-2020 02:00 PM

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I can totally see points on both sides, but with the vast majority of that one study (I don't know how expansive it was) saying that Native Americans aren't offended by it: what if they get offended if they "did" change it? I believe during the same study, many Native Americans said they took it something of honor and would be offended if they DID change the name.

ESPECIALLY now, this type of thing is incredibly challenging, but in the end, wouldn't it/shouldn't it be there voice that would decide something like this?

mredskins 06-03-2020 02:55 PM

Re: Skins getting heat again over name issue
 
I think it be a great time for Dan to change the name. I actually like the name Washington Warriors much more.

sandtrapjack 06-03-2020 04:02 PM

Re: Skins getting heat again over name issue
 
Bunk. Just before camps open is the slowest news time of the year in football. Writers will write about anything. Florio using current climate as a catalyst.

Look gents, every May and June like clockwork, Florio of some other writer does an article on how the teams name is detrimental to the brand and should be changed. It happened lasts summer, it happened the summer before that. And I will bet you that this time next year it happens again.

But once July gets here, the articles stop and there are better things to discuss in football than this.

Buffalo Bob 06-03-2020 04:53 PM

Re: Skins getting heat again over name issue
 
If you go back 100 years when blatant racism against any minority was all over the place in print media and in Hollywood, the term redskin was rarely used to refer to Native Americans. I have never heard another human utter that term in my presence and I have been around many people long since passed that racial epithets were part of their daily language. For that reason I don't understand the furor over the name. I think they should complain about how they were portrayed in TV shows and movies. Until the last couple decades they were portrayed by white people with make up and made out to be savages of very little intelligence.

sdskinsfan2001 06-03-2020 05:06 PM

Re: Skins getting heat again over name issue
 
[quote=mredskins;1252524]I think it be a great time for Dan to change the name. I actually like the name Washington Warriors much more.[/quote]

I don't want to have the same team name as another major sports team. If anything, find a Native American tribe that would like for or support the team using it, and use that name.

Buffalo Bob 06-03-2020 06:24 PM

Re: Skins getting heat again over name issue
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1252531]I don't want to have the same team name as another major sports team. If anything, find a Native American tribe that would like for or support the team using it, and use that name.[/quote]

How about Cherokees? About a thousand or so live a couple hundred miles down the road from DC.


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