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sdskinsfan2001 02-11-2021 10:03 PM

Around the NFL: NFL Offseason
 
Not a very flattering article about R. Wilson.

Sounds like he's a selfish, cry-baby bitch.

Maybe not run around every play like a chicken and with your head cutoff.

[url]https://www.nfl.com/news/seahawks-receiving-more-calls-on-russell-wilson-after-public-comments[/url]

In hindsight, I'm glad they didn't hand the ball off to Beast-Mode.

mooby 02-11-2021 10:25 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1277243][B]Not a very flattering article[/B] about R. Wilson.

Sounds like he's a selfish, cry-baby bitch.

Maybe not run around every play like a chicken and with your head cutoff.

[url]https://www.nfl.com/news/seahawks-receiving-more-calls-on-russell-wilson-after-public-comments[/url]

In hindsight, I'm glad they didn't hand the ball off to Beast-Mode.[/quote]

It's not, but good luck finding an elite qb that isn't becoming increasingly invested in off-the-field matters because that seems to be the new norm. The days of a qb signing a contract and expecting to not be able to influence football ops are gone.

This is one of those good problems to have, because you have an elite talent at qb who obviously doesn't want his prime years being wasted. Yes, he's selfish and probably thinking about long term goals like titles/HOF, but if he was easily replaceable he wouldn't dare think about speaking up like that.

Also yes I expect him to be reprimanded by Carroll for shitting on his offensive line in public like that.

sdskinsfan2001 02-11-2021 10:30 PM

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[quote=mooby;1277244]It's not, but good luck finding an elite qb that isn't becoming increasingly invested in off-the-field matters because that seems to be the new norm. The days of a qb signing a contract and expecting to not be able to influence football ops are gone.

This is one of those good problems to have, because you have an elite talent at qb who obviously doesn't want his prime years being wasted. Yes, he's selfish and probably thinking about long term goals like titles/HOF, but if he was easily replaceable he wouldn't dare think about speaking up like that.

Also yes I expect him to be reprimanded by Carroll for shitting on his offensive line in public like that.[/quote]

Resign that contract down to "only" 25 million. You don't get to take all the money then cry about the team not doing enough. Not to mention, throwing your teammates under the bus. Fuck him. Hopefully he never wins shit again.

AnonEmouse 02-12-2021 06:24 AM

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He's wrong to make it public, but that OL has been pretty awful for 3 straight years now, getting worse over time. If you truly value your (supposed) franchise QB, you'd have fixed it by now. Last year was the first time since 2016 they've spent a 'high' round draft pick on OL, and even then it was a 3rd rounder. he doesn't help himself with both his mouth and his habit of hanging onto the ball, but the organisation hasn't helped him with protection either.

EdmundDorf 02-12-2021 06:36 AM

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To be fair I have heard non off these guys is asking to pick the players, just to be consulted, ie just to be given a chance to have their feedback included. In RW case his OL has been trash, his window is limited and since he signed the contract they traded their next 2 first picks for a safety. Imagine their OL with 2 first rounders on it. They have no cap space to fit free agent OL in because said safety is also gonna want $20m a year. Does a player not get to have an opinion if a Coach or Owner goes off trading for shiny toys which make his own position more difficult? For all of the acclaim Seattle get for being a great front office, their track record on first round picks isn't great. Maybe he could do a better job

[EDIT] That being said, RW also needs to realise that in order to pay his wages the defence which made him look so good early in his career has been dismantled.

skinsfaninok 02-12-2021 09:56 AM

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The Texans have cut JJ WATT per NFLN

GridIron26 02-12-2021 09:57 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277264]The Texans have cut JJ WATT per NFLN[/quote]

Wow I didn't see that coming

Ruhskins 02-12-2021 10:02 AM

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[quote=GridIron26;1277265]Wow I didn't see that coming[/quote]

Texans are in a total rebuild mode. Which is why I think they'll eventually trade Watson. They are going to get a haul of picks and no one expect them to be good this upcoming season. They could easily be in position to draft a top QB in 2022. But they are also being very dysfunctional, so who knows.

calia 02-12-2021 10:03 AM

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Texans’ brilliance continues. They’ll have to trade Watson now. No way he stays after this. Everyone on that team must be utterly demoralized today.


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Ruhskins 02-12-2021 10:05 AM

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[quote=calia;1277269]Texans’ brilliance continues.


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Yeah, I don't get why they outright released Watt, if you could trade him. Any draft pick is better than none, especially for a team with so little draft capital this season. You can work something out with a player if they have a destination in mind.

EdmundDorf 02-12-2021 10:13 AM

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That assumes any other team wants to take on his huge salary given his age and injury history.....

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-12-2021 10:27 AM

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Sounds like Watt asked for his release and was granted it

Ruhskins 02-12-2021 10:28 AM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1277273]That assumes any other team wants to take on his huge salary given his age and injury history.....[/quote]

He had one year left with 17 mil non-guaranteed money left in his contract it seems.

sdskinsfan2001 02-12-2021 10:47 AM

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Watson is gonna get traded. Even though it's apples to asparagus, the team honoring Watt's request but not Watson's, will be considered racism. The build up to draft day is gonna be nuts this year.

NYCskinfan82 02-12-2021 11:09 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1277278]Watson is gonna get traded. Even though it's apples to asparagus, the team honoring Watt's request but not Watson's, will be considered racism. The build up to draft day is gonna be nuts this year.[/quote]

Couldn't of said it better myself.

skinsfaninok 02-12-2021 11:27 AM

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Watson's team has already said hes done in HOU... It's over for them, in today's NFL, The player (especially QB) Has all the leverage. They are only saying No right now because the draft is still far out, once we get to draft week he'll be traded

CRedskinsRule 02-12-2021 11:47 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277280]Watson's team has already said hes done in HOU... It's over for them, in today's NFL, The player (especially QB) Has all the leverage. They are only saying No right now because the draft is still far out, once we get to draft week he'll be traded[/quote]

Yeah, people who think Watson will just settle back down and play are missing the power shift that has gone on with star players, not just qb's. The fines and leverage a team has works well for vet minimum players, but those pulling in multimillion dollar deals know that their talent and value outweigh the penalties they might receive, up to and including sitting out a year. Most teams nowadays understand that.

Ruhskins 02-12-2021 12:19 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1277283]Yeah, people who think Watson will just settle back down and play are missing the power shift that has gone on with star players, not just qb's. The fines and leverage a team has works well for vet minimum players, but those pulling in multimillion dollar deals know that their talent and value outweigh the penalties they might receive, up to and including sitting out a year. Most teams nowadays understand that.[/quote]

Watson sitting out for any amount of time is very different than TW, LeVeon Bell, or any other cases that we've seen in the past couple of seasons.

Ruhskins 02-12-2021 12:43 PM

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@billbarnwell
The Texans aren't planning on having fans in 2021. Nothing to do with the pandemic, just their new philosophy

:laughing-

Monkeydad 02-12-2021 12:44 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277264]The Texans have cut JJ WATT per NFLN[/quote]

Sign & trade!

Ruhskins 02-12-2021 12:47 PM

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[quote=Monkeydad;1277296]Sign & trade![/quote]

Or a short time replacement for Allen, when we trade him and picks for Watson. :Smoker: #pipedream

Monkeydad 02-12-2021 12:47 PM

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BOTH Maurkice and Mike Pouncey retired!

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/steelers/2021/02/12/nfl-twins-steelers-maurkice-mike-pouncey-retire-together/6736819002/[/url]

Monkeydad 02-12-2021 12:48 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1277297]Or a short time replacement for Allen, when we trade him and picks for Watson. :Smoker: #pipedream[/quote]

Watt plays DE, not DT but I like your thinking.

He won't be getting #99 though.

I guarantee he'll go to Pittsburgh and maybe even at a discount.

simbosargos75 02-12-2021 04:09 PM

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[quote=Monkeydad;1277299]Watt plays DE, not DT but I like your thinking.

He won't be getting #99 though.

I guarantee he'll go to Pittsburgh and maybe even at a discount.[/quote]

Packers wouldn't surprise me. He's a God around here already, but put him on the Packers and he'll be a forever God.

CRedskinsRule 02-12-2021 04:31 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1277286]Watson sitting out for any amount of time is very different than TW, LeVeon Bell, or any other cases that we've seen in the past couple of seasons.[/quote]

I don't get why people think this way. Watson sitting out is just the next in the evolution/escalation of players standing up individually to declare a team incompetent or incompatible. As players become minor millionaires quicker, the desire to put their bodies on the line for teams that they see (right or wrongly) as not putting the same type of fight for the prize of winning we are going to see more cases of players cancelling their contract while they still have time to win it all.

skinsfan69 02-12-2021 05:18 PM

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Don't care what Watson does, the cost will be too high so do not want him.

skinsfan69 02-12-2021 05:20 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1277243]Not a very flattering article about R. Wilson.

Sounds like he's a selfish, cry-baby bitch.

Maybe not run around every play like a chicken and with your head cutoff.

[url]https://www.nfl.com/news/seahawks-receiving-more-calls-on-russell-wilson-after-public-comments[/url]

In hindsight, I'm glad they didn't hand the ball off to Beast-Mode.[/quote]

my message to him would be give back some $ so we can sign a o-linemen. Then I bet Russ would be straight crickets.

MissouriSkin 02-12-2021 05:48 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1277312]my message to him would be give back some $ so we can sign a o-linemen. Then I bet Russ would be straight crickets.[/quote]

They’re all that way. Dak was like....you need to sign my boy Zeke...they did. Now he wants his and there’s no money left and he’s wondering why. Think some of these guys need to pay more attention in the Econ and Business classes they take.

AnonEmouse 02-16-2021 08:03 AM

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Sad news

[URL="https://www.nfl.com/news/vincent-jackson-dead-former-chargers-and-buccaneers-receiver-age-38"]https://www.nfl.com/news/vincent-jackson-dead-former-chargers-and-buccaneers-receiver-age-38[/URL]

No signs of trauma but police visited him at his hotel after concerns from the family? Please not another NFL player suicide. :(

mooby 02-16-2021 09:56 AM

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1277467]Sad news

[URL="https://www.nfl.com/news/vincent-jackson-dead-former-chargers-and-buccaneers-receiver-age-38"]https://www.nfl.com/news/vincent-jackson-dead-former-chargers-and-buccaneers-receiver-age-38[/URL]

No signs of trauma but police visited him at his hotel after concerns from the family? Please not another NFL player suicide. :([/quote]

No idea what happened but RIP. Seems he was a well-liked player by the community and team. My condolences to his family and friends.

skinsfan69 02-16-2021 10:43 AM

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So Crowder may be a cap cut. I'd take him back here at the right price.

MTK 02-16-2021 10:49 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1277492]So Crowder may be a cap cut. I'd take him back here at the right price.[/quote]

Heck yeah, shouldn't have let him go in the first place.

Ruhskins 02-16-2021 10:53 AM

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[quote=MTK;1277493]Heck yeah, shouldn't have let him go in the first place.[/quote]

Would love to see this as our wideout group:

Terry
Crowder
Allen Robinson

MTK 02-16-2021 10:56 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1277494]Would love to see this as our wideout group:

Terry
Crowder
Allen Robinson[/quote]

Yeah nice, or I was thinking a WR at 19 like Kadarius Toney from Florida to go with TM and Crowder.

skinsfaninok 02-16-2021 08:44 PM

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Lions are Tagging Kenny Golladay per Rap sheet

Chief X_Phackter 02-16-2021 09:40 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277542]Lions are Tagging Kenny Golladay per Rap sheet[/quote]

Garafolo said today that he wouldn't be surprised if Godwin, Fuller, and Robinson were tagged as well.

sdskinsfan2001 02-16-2021 09:57 PM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1277545]Garafolo said today that he wouldn't be surprised if Godwin, Fuller, and Robinson were tagged as well.[/quote]

WR1 is really important. Especially nowadays. Wouldn't surprise me.

Pervis_Griffith 02-17-2021 11:24 AM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1277545]Garafolo said today that he wouldn't be surprised if Godwin, Fuller, and Robinson were tagged as well.[/quote]


If this happens ...

Snag a slot in Curtis Samuel, or bring Jamison back ...

Then draft a compliment to TM, and let the other young WR's we've drafted the past two years, battle out for depth spots.


Use the rest of Free Agency to sign other areas of concern - LB, CB, S, OLine. Oh ... and QB ... lol.

SunnySide 02-17-2021 01:48 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1277542]Lions are Tagging Kenny Golladay per Rap sheet[/quote]

dang it ... PFF had me convinced he was the best FA WR target.

MTK 02-18-2021 09:36 AM

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@AlbertBreer
Per a memo that went to teams, the 2021 salary cap will be set at a minimum of $180 million (up from $175 million).

This isn’t the final cap. Just the new minimum.


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