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skinsfaninok 02-04-2019 04:14 PM

All things NFL Offseason 2019.
 
Always a bitter sweet day for football fans..

Time for the off season to start , everyone is now 0-0.

News and Notes :


[url]https://www.miamidolphins.com/news/miami-dolphins-name-brian-flores-head-coach[/url]

Don't know much about Flores but I don't recall many ex pats coordinators making it far as head coaches...

Also the AAF is starting this week for those interested.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaf-2019-how-the-new-alliance-of-american-football-stands-out-in-an-ever-growing-pro-football-landscape/[/url]

I'm actually intrigued by this league, and PFF will be grading players just like NFL and CFB.

GridIron26 02-05-2019 05:11 PM

Re: All things NFL Offseason 2019.
 
Spencer Long is now available.. Should we bring him back to compete for LG?

[url]https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY/status/1092890534497173504[/url]

Irrefutable 02-05-2019 09:53 PM

Re: All things NFL Offseason 2019.
 
per Adam Schefter Eagles use 5th year option on Foles

And Foles voids it ! (cost him $2 million) He will be a free agent unless the Eagles use the franchise tag... $25 million

Chico23231 02-05-2019 10:31 PM

Re: All things NFL Offseason 2019.
 
[quote=GridIron26;1218586]Spencer Long is now available.. Should we bring him back to compete for LG?

[url]https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY/status/1092890534497173504[/url][/quote]

Nope. He sucks

Meks 02-06-2019 02:45 AM

Re: All things NFL Offseason 2019.
 
Lol @ the foles shit tho.

mooby 02-06-2019 05:25 AM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1218596]per Adam Schefter Eagles use 5th year option on Foles

And Foles voids it ! (cost him $2 million) He will be a free agent unless the Eagles use the franchise tag... $25 million[/quote]

This was the plan all along. Eagles gonna franchise him and trade him, probably to the Jags for a 3rd rounder or in a player-for-player swap.

skinsfaninok 02-06-2019 09:13 AM

Re: All things NFL Offseason 2019.
 
Jags would be dumb to trade ramsey but I bet that's who it will be

Buffalo Bob 02-06-2019 11:30 AM

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I realize he has had an up and down career, but how is Nick Foles only worth a 3rd rounder?

skinsfaninok 02-06-2019 11:32 AM

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1218611]I realize he has had an up and down career, but how is Nick Foles only worth a 3rd rounder?[/quote]

Because he hasn't done jack elsewhere than Philly.

Ruhskins 02-06-2019 11:54 AM

Re: All things NFL Offseason 2019.
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1218544]Always a bitter sweet day for football fans..

Time for the off season to start , everyone is now 0-0.

News and Notes :


[url]https://www.miamidolphins.com/news/miami-dolphins-name-brian-flores-head-coach[/url]

[B]Don't know much about Flores but I don't recall many ex pats coordinators making it far as head coaches... [/B]

Also the AAF is starting this week for those interested.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaf-2019-how-the-new-alliance-of-american-football-stands-out-in-an-ever-growing-pro-football-landscape/[/url]

I'm actually intrigued by this league, and PFF will be grading players just like NFL and CFB.[/quote]

I don't think any of them have been successful, except Bill O'Brien.

[url]https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2017/01/08/every-coordinator-bill-belichick-has-lost-to-head-coaching-hires[/url]

skinsfaninok 02-06-2019 12:15 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1218613]I don't think any of them have been successful, except Bill O'Brien.

[url]https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2017/01/08/every-coordinator-bill-belichick-has-lost-to-head-coaching-hires[/url][/quote]

Yeah its a hot trend to go after his staff but it never works out

Chico23231 02-06-2019 12:27 PM

Re: All things NFL Offseason 2019.
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1218613]I don't think any of them have been successful, except Bill O'Brien.

[url]https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2017/01/08/every-coordinator-bill-belichick-has-lost-to-head-coaching-hires[/url][/quote]

Bill O'Brien is gonna Mike Tomlin this opportunity in Houston....where you have the talent, but underachieve enough to keep your job.

As time has gone on Tomlin looks worse and worse as a coach.

skinsfaninok 02-06-2019 02:31 PM

Re: All things NFL Offseason 2019.
 
PFF top 10 contract projections:

J Clowney: 6/$135M/$85M
D Lawrence: 6/$126M/$60M
D Ford: 5/$95M/$55M
F Clark: 5/$87.5M/$53M
G Jarrett: 5/$82.5M/$46M
T Flowers: 5/$80M/$50M
L Bell: 4/$60M/$33M
Donovan Smith 5/$60M/$27M
Tyrell Williams 4/$48M/$25M
Landon Collins 5/$57.5M/$34.5M

sevier2 02-06-2019 02:59 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1218617]Bill O'Brien is gonna Mike Tomlin this opportunity in Houston....where you have the talent, but underachieve enough to keep your job.

As time has gone on[B] Tomlin looks worse and worse as a coach[/B].[/quote]

Huh?

Tomlin has never coached a season below 8-8. In fact, he has 8 seasons of 10 wins or more (out of 12). He's also got 2 AFC Championships and a Superbowl ring.

I don't think that's anything to scoff at. Especially when we haven't won more than 10 games since Gibbs did it in 1991, almost [I][I]30[/I] years[/I] ago :puke:

I would be more than happy with a coach of Tomlin's level.

skinsfaninok 02-06-2019 03:13 PM

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Yeah Tomlin is a solid HC, Bill Belichick isn't walking around for everyone. I'd love to have a consistent winner like Tomlin

125-66

Chico23231 02-06-2019 03:20 PM

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[quote=sevier2;1218621]Huh?

Tomlin has never coached a season below 8-8. In fact, he has 8 seasons of 10 wins or more (out of 12). He's also got 2 AFC Championships and a Superbowl ring.

I don't think that's anything to scoff at. Especially when we haven't won more than 10 games since Gibbs did it in 1991, almost [I][I]30[/I] years[/I] ago :puke:

I would be more than happy with a coach of Tomlin's level.[/quote]

Tomlin has had great talent and good positional coaches with a great FO in place.

He constantly under achieves imo

skinsfan69 02-06-2019 03:26 PM

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Tomlin is solid but needs good coordinators around him. He's in a good stable spot with a borderline HOF QB. A lot of coaches could go there and win.

GridIron26 02-06-2019 03:32 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218620]PFF top 10 contract projections:

J Clowney: 6/$135M/$85M
D Lawrence: 6/$126M/$60M
D Ford: 5/$95M/$55M
F Clark: 5/$87.5M/$53M
G Jarrett: 5/$82.5M/$46M
T Flowers: 5/$80M/$50M
L Bell: 4/$60M/$33M
Donovan Smith 5/$60M/$27M
Tyrell Williams 4/$48M/$25M
Landon Collins 5/$57.5M/$34.5M[/quote]

Damn.. I suppose Redskins FO will have to rework few players' contracts if we want to sign a pass rusher.. I personally like Tyrell Williams and I would love for us to cut Richardson and sign Williams but it will happen only in my dreams. Even I am not sure if he is worth that much though.

sevier2 02-06-2019 03:32 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1218623]Tomlin has had great talent and good positional coaches with a great FO in place.

He constantly under achieves imo[/quote]

He has had good talent and one of the best run FO's in the league, i'll give you that. But I just can't consider him an "underachiever" when his record is what it is.

He's also had to deal with a lot of big personalities in Pitt. and seemingly doesn't miss a beat.

Chico23231 02-06-2019 03:44 PM

Re: All things NFL Offseason 2019.
 
[quote=sevier2;1218626]He has had good talent and one of the best run FO's in the league, i'll give you that. But I just can't consider him an "underachiever" when his record is what it is.

He's also had to deal with a lot of big personalities in Pitt. and seemingly doesn't miss a beat.[/quote]

Im not saying Tomlin isn't solid...I just think with that talent they should have had some more rings to show. How he didn't handle big personalities is one may have lead to the under achieving.

GridIron26 02-07-2019 10:58 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1218597]Nope. He sucks[/quote]

He wasn't good with Jets but I think he was decent with us? Roullier is definitely better than Long at C but we don't have adequate C backup, as well as guard backup. With our history of weak Oline depth, we need more players who can jump in and help offense to not miss a beat.. Long could be a good backup if he doesn't win LG spot by the time training camp ends.

Chico23231 02-07-2019 11:06 AM

Re: All things NFL Offseason 2019.
 
[quote=GridIron26;1218648]He wasn't good with Jets but I think he was decent with us? Roullier is definitely better than Long at C but we don't have adequate C backup, as well as guard backup. With our history of weak Oline depth, we need more players who can jump in and help offense to not miss a beat.. Long could be a good backup if he doesn't win LG spot by the time training camp ends.[/quote]

bringing back as a Depth swing Guard/Center I would be down for that absolutely. He's not a starter...We start the season with him at LG is us as a Franchise continuing to fail at roster building.

skinsfaninok 02-07-2019 11:16 AM

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Skins won't be able to grab a top tier FA , since our cap room is so shitty. Hopefully they lock up BS soon, that will help with the 2019 cap I believe.

SFREDSKIN 02-07-2019 11:19 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218605]Jags would be dumb to trade ramsey but I bet that's who it will be[/quote]

Foles for Fournette both teams need to fill those positions.

skinsfaninok 02-07-2019 11:33 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1218651]Foles for Fournette both teams need to fill those positions.[/quote]

Fournette has big character issues, won't mesh well with Wentz imo. Jags had a miracle run 2 years ago, this season proved who they really are.

skinsfaninok 02-07-2019 02:33 PM

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[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/07/can-an-nfl-team-tell-a-player-not-to-play-basketball/[/url]

Cant be mad at KC

Ruhskins 02-08-2019 11:33 PM

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Drama already happening with the Jets.

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Meks 02-09-2019 01:24 PM

Re: All things NFL Offseason 2019.
 
[quote=Chico23231;1218627]Im not saying Tomlin isn't solid...I just think with that talent [b]they should have had some more rings to show. [/b]How he didn't handle big personalities is one may have lead to the under achieving.[/quote]

Brady and Manning prolly the reason for that...

Ruhskins 02-12-2019 02:54 PM

Re: All things NFL Offseason 2019.
 
Looks like Kareem Hunt is getting a second chance.

[url]http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25975979/kareem-hunt-browns-how-fits-status-nfl-more[/url]

skinsfaninok 02-13-2019 12:16 PM

Re: All things NFL Offseason 2019.
 
Ravens trade Flacco to Denver..

Thank god.

Also hell no to Keenum

Redskins247 02-13-2019 12:33 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218819]Ravens trade Flacco to Denver..

Thank god.

Also hell no to Keenum[/quote]

I thought they may be one to draft Jones or Lock. And wasn't Keenum on a 3 year deal with them? Maybe Shurmur brings Keenum there since he worked well in his system before.

skinsfan69 02-13-2019 12:34 PM

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The Keenum era ended quickly. Good move for Denver. Flacco is still a solid starter and better than Keenum.

GridIron26 02-13-2019 12:55 PM

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[quote=Redskins247;1218820]I thought they may be one to draft Jones or Lock. And wasn't Keenum on a 3 year deal with them? Maybe Shurmur brings Keenum there since he worked well in his system before.[/quote]

I think it was 2 years deal.. And I doubt this means Broncos will not draft a QB although, I imagine it's unlikely for them to draft a QB with their 1st rd pick. This might be good thing for Redskins.

sandtrapjack 02-13-2019 12:57 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218819]Ravens trade Flacco to Denver..

Thank god.

Also hell no to Keenum[/quote]

That squashes all of those "Flacco to Washington" predictions.....

It also suggests that Denver might be in the QB market in this years draft. Flacco is long in the tooth to be considered a long-term franchise QB.

Role may be more of a bridge.

skinsfaninok 02-13-2019 01:20 PM

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Still say Denver draft Lock

MTK 02-13-2019 01:27 PM

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If Iím a Broncos fan this move does nothing for me. Flacco is a slight upgrade at best.


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MTK 02-13-2019 01:28 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1218826]Still say Denver draft Lock[/QUOTE]


They could but getting Flacco says theyíre trying to win now. Theyíve got other spots to upgrade.



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htownskinfan 02-13-2019 08:58 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1218819]Ravens trade Flacco to Denver..

Thank god.

Also hell no to Keenum[/quote]

Well Denver Iím sure will be releasing him and he shouldnít be that expensive.If Smith doesnít play this year I would be fine in having the Skins rent Case for a year.Heís as good as Colt and at least heís proven he can stay healthy which Colt canít do,Skins donít have a lot of options

MTK 02-13-2019 09:36 PM

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Keenum is junk, back to the bench for him


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htownskinfan 02-13-2019 10:01 PM

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[quote=MTK;1218831]Keenum is junk, back to the bench for him


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Was he junk with the Vikings? Itís not like Denver was loaded with offensive talent and they had injuries on their offense line also.Anyway Iím not saying heís great,just that he would be a decent fill in with the skins limited options.We already agreed Colt was not the answer,so whatís your plan? Draft a rookie and throw him in the fire right away? Bridgewater? He played like shit for Saints last game,so who do you think Skins can afford to sign that would be better stopgap?


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