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MTK 07-14-2019 10:51 AM

Guice dealing with hamstring injury, questionable for start of training camp
 
[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/07/13/redskins-camp-approaches-derrius-guice-plays-down-report-hamstring-injury/?utm_term=.ac6e02fca04a"]As Redskins camp approaches, Derrius Guice plays down report of hamstring injury[/URL]

I think it's way too early to call this a big deal, but it's still a concern and something to keep an eye on.

FrenchSkin 07-14-2019 12:03 PM

Re: Guice dealing with hamstring injury, questionable for start of training camp
 
[quote=MTK;1225340][URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/07/13/redskins-camp-approaches-derrius-guice-plays-down-report-hamstring-injury/?utm_term=.ac6e02fca04a"]As Redskins camp approaches, Derrius Guice plays down report of hamstring injury[/URL]

I think it's way too early to call this a big deal, but it's still a concern and something to keep an eye on.[/quote]

Got me scared at first but it seems it's not that big of a deal after all. Concerning none the less.

Chico23231 07-14-2019 02:45 PM

Re: Guice dealing with hamstring injury, questionable for start of training camp
 
IMO itís very concerning and Iím still worried about the knee which clearly isnít 100%. AP is great depth, but in terms of our offense reaching next level, Guice is key. His ability to catch out the backfield is something this team needs to incorporate...AP isnít a natural receiver. While running the ball is key for how our team is built, we need to throw the ball more on first down and RB out the backfield on early downs is pivotal getting that done.

DYoungJelly 07-14-2019 03:23 PM

Re: Guice dealing with hamstring injury, questionable for start of training camp
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1225343]IMO itís very concerning and Iím still worried about the knee which clearly isnít 100%. AP is great depth, but in terms of our offense reaching next level, Guice is key. His ability to catch out the backfield is something this team needs to incorporate...AP isnít a natural receiver. While running the ball is key for how our team is built, we need to throw the ball more on first down and RB out the backfield on early downs is pivotal getting that done.[/QUOTE]Agree.

An injury prone player, who the team is supposedly heavily relying on, incurring an injury of the type which frequently lingers for long periods of time is very concerning.

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Ruhskins 07-14-2019 04:03 PM

Re: Guice dealing with hamstring injury, questionable for start of training camp
 
I'll re-post Hoffman's tweet for some context:

"@CraigHoffman

Source confirms @ErinHawksworth report that Derrius Guice tweaked his hamstring while rehabbing.

Not sure it really effects much, because he was already going to be monitored in camp. Also happened a few weeks ago, so has already had time to heal."

As JP Findlay said, in a vacuum this would not be a big deal, but given the injury, it is concerning. But it also sounds like despite this setback, Guice may not have been ready for the beginning of training camp.

Chico23231 07-14-2019 04:55 PM

Re: Guice dealing with hamstring injury, questionable for start of training camp
 
Perine has an opportunity now...hopefully Jay wasnít bullshitting about how well Perine looked this Spring

Ruhskins 07-15-2019 03:01 PM

Re: Guice dealing with hamstring injury, questionable for start of training camp
 
[quote=Chico23231;1225346]Perine has an opportunity now...hopefully Jay wasnít bullshitting about how well Perine looked this Spring[/quote]

Perine has always had an opportunity. Don't get me wrong, I hope he lives up to his potential. I just feel that the moment he puts a ball on the ground in the preseason, he'll be done.

FrenchSkin 07-15-2019 05:47 PM

Re: Guice dealing with hamstring injury, questionable for start of training camp
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1225365][B]Perine has always had an opportunity[/B]. Don't get me wrong, I hope he lives up to his potential. I just feel that the moment he puts a ball on the ground in the preseason, he'll be done.[/quote]

Agreed, Perine had a lot of opportunities, doesn't mean he can't become a better player but so fat he never made enough out of the opportunities he was granted IMO.
Doesn't it feel like Jay Gruden has a soft spot in his heart for RBs and WRs ? (Perine, Fat Rob, Marshall, Ryan Grant etc...) He always lists the full squad when he's asked about these 2 positions and we've seen guys get more opportunities than maybe we thought they deserved.

skinsfan69 07-15-2019 09:06 PM

Re: Guice dealing with hamstring injury, questionable for start of training camp
 
Marshall is better than Perine. He's a more complete back. But like half the roster he seems to always be hurt. Perine just has draft pick status. They should have cut him last year. Bibbs was even better than Perine.

MTK 07-16-2019 09:47 AM

Re: Guice dealing with hamstring injury, questionable for start of training camp
 
F Perine let's just hope AP can continue to defy father time. A healthy Chris Thompson sure would be nice too.

skinsfaninok 07-16-2019 09:59 AM

Re: Guice dealing with hamstring injury, questionable for start of training camp
 
Perine or Marshall, one will no be on the roster come Week 1 unless Guice is out again. Peterson is going to be fine, he trains like a mad man. We really do need Guice to be a difference maker though.

Buffalo Bob 07-16-2019 10:24 AM

Re: Guice dealing with hamstring injury, questionable for start of training camp
 
[quote=FrenchSkin;1225366]Agreed, Perine had a lot of opportunities, doesn't mean he can't become a better player but so fat he never made enough out of the opportunities he was granted IMO.
Doesn't it feel like Jay Gruden has a soft spot in his heart for RBs and WRs ? (Perine, Fat Rob, Marshall, Ryan Grant etc...) He always lists the full squad when he's asked about these 2 positions and we've seen guys get more opportunities than maybe we thought they deserved.[/quote]

I think Jay has a soft spot for everyone. I think he is the opposite of the Vince Lombardi type. I have seen plenty a play where an average coach would have greeted the player with an ass chewing coming off the field and Gruden did nothing. The one that stands out if he saw it was when Jordan Reed stood and gave Alex Smith the stink eye when Alex's throw was picked off in the end zone and the defender went 100 yards the other direction for a TD. If Reed didn't pull that stunt he could have saved a TD. That had to stand out like a sore thumb on film if the coaches missed it during the game.

skinsfaninok 07-16-2019 10:33 AM

Re: Guice dealing with hamstring injury, questionable for start of training camp
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1225374]I think Jay has a soft spot for everyone. I think he is the opposite of the Vince Lombardi type. I have seen plenty a play where an average coach would have greeted the player with an ass chewing coming off the field and Gruden did nothing. The one that stands out if he saw it was when Jordan Reed stood and gave Alex Smith the stink eye when Alex's throw was picked off in the end zone and the defender went 100 yards the other direction for a TD. If Reed didn't pull that stunt he could have saved a TD. That had to stand out like a sore thumb on film if the coaches missed it during the game.[/quote]

I can see this, Jay seems like a people person and a bit of a push over. He may be "too loyal" if you will.

Schneed10 07-16-2019 10:56 AM

Re: Guice dealing with hamstring injury, questionable for start of training camp
 
We've got a sky is falling mentality right now whenever we hear any injury news. It's hard to blame us, we've been ravaged the last two years, and when Reuben Foster goes down on a non contact play on the first play of OTAs, you start to feel like it's never going to get better.

But if you flip a coin and it comes up tails 20 times in a row, that's an extremely unlikely occurrence and it starts to feel like you'll never see a heads again. But the likelihood of the [B]next[/B] coin flip coming up heads is still 50/50.

Such is our life right now. After what we've been through, you hear about a major player with any kind of injury, you assume it's a killer. But each of these really has to be looked at individually. I remain convinced that we've been crushed by bad luck the last two seasons, and that there's little the team could have done to avoid the calamity.

The chances that this screws Guice up for the start of the season is miniscule, in my mind.

sdskinsfan2001 07-16-2019 11:59 AM

Re: Guice dealing with hamstring injury, questionable for start of training camp
 
The only time I pull my hammy is if the sheets are tucked too tight.

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