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#Redskins stellar guard Brandon Scherff is believed to have suffered a torn pec based on the initial diagnosis, sources say. He has an MRI today, but would be a significant loss. Per Ian Rapoport


Well this blows, so now Trent is out , BS is done for the yr and Moses is always banged up... Just like last yr, it sucks to be negative but it appears our season is going down the drain.

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So I'm guessing we're looking at Ty at LT, Roullier back at LG, Bergstrom at center, Christian at RG, and Moses at RT.

Unbelievable.

Scherff definitely looked to be in a ton of pain. If he's not done for the year I'll be shocked.

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[quote=MTK;1205930]So I'm guessing we're looking at Ty at LT, Roullier back at LG, Bergstrom at center, Christian at RG, and Moses at RT.

Unbelievable.

Scherff definitely looked to be in a ton of pain. If he's not done for the year I'll be shocked.[/quote]

and we thought Alex was a checkdown king before. We have Hou, Dal and Philly twice coming up , all 3 have great d-lines. We are in trouble

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Season. Is. Over. Maybe next year we will have a real coach and a real quarterback. You know guys like McVay and Cousins for example. [emoji849]
Fuck this team.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1205932]and we thought Alex was a checkdown king before. We have Hou, Dal and Philly twice coming up , all 3 have great d-lines. We are in trouble[/quote]

What's scarier than the d-lines we'll be facing is Gruden calling plays as if he'll have the original Hogs up front. He'd adjust, if he was smart.

It also sucked that Scherff seemed to get injured on a possible cheapshot.

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I'm not too pissed off because this is who we are,a happy go lucky bunch who might show up to play or might not as in Sunday's game,the Skins worry no we got it made maybe one day we'll figure it out.

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Losing one of our best players on apparent cheap shot? And the curse blazes on. It was fun beating Carolina and Dallas.

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You start to lose your entire offensive line, you're going to have issues. Just see 2017. Something is wrong when this happens two seasons in a row. A good coach will see what he has and play to those players' strengths. There's going to have to be some misdirection plays and rollouts thrown in there, because Smith is going to get killed.

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[quote=MTK;1205930]So I'm guessing we're looking at Ty at LT, Roullier back at LG, Bergstrom at center, Christian at RG, and Moses at RT.

Unbelievable.

Scherff definitely looked to be in a ton of pain. If he's not done for the year I'll be shocked.[/quote]

This lineup should make every single Skins fan pissed. The absolute mismanagement of this roster is unacceptable. Lauvao is injured for the SECOND TIME in a half season and the Interior depth is so fucking bad we have to swing our natural Center out of position and use a Rookie Tackle as a Guard.

when are fans gonna get woke about this bullshit??? its the same old excuses.

You would figure after last year's injuries we would fortify the Oline and get a plan together. Fuck this front office

We need a real Left Guard and some real Interior Oline depth this offseason.

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I don't get the doom and gloom.

Did anyone expect Lauvao to play more than 8 games, besides the Redskins?
It sucks for Scherff, he is a great player and we will miss him but this won't have a big impact on the team since the top 2 WRs are only able to contribute 65 yards per game average.

Half the season is over. The passing game what it is. Josh Doctson isn't going to get any better. Paul Richardson is a deep threat on a team that doesn't throw deep. The passing game was never going to help the running game by stretching the field.
Alex Smith has Zero trust in his WRs to get open. Vernon Davis is the go to pass catcher on the team yet again. Let that sink. Last year, VD lead the team in yards per reception and he is doing it again this year.

Nothing changes with these injuries, it's the AP and VD show the rest of the way regardless of what happens with the line.


F U Bruce Allen.

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[quote=Chico23231;1205945]This lineup should make every single Skins fan pissed. The absolute mismanagement of this roster is unacceptable. Lauvao is injured for the SECOND TIME in a half season and the Interior depth is so fucking bad we have to swing our natural Center out of position and use a Rookie Tackle as a Guard.

when are fans gonna get woke about this bullshit??? its the same old excuses.

You would figure after last year's injuries we would fortify the Oline and get a plan together. Fuck this front office

We need a real Left Guard and some real Interior Oline depth this offseason.[/quote]

It sucks man, life as a skins fan. This team just can't get it going consistently.

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Losing 3 starters on the OL would seriously stress any team’s depth.

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[quote=Chico23231;1205945]This lineup should make every single Skins fan pissed. The absolute mismanagement of this roster is unacceptable. Lauvao is injured for the SECOND TIME in a half season and the Interior depth is so fucking bad we have to swing our natural Center out of position and use a Rookie Tackle as a Guard.

when are fans gonna get woke about this bullshit??? its the same old excuses.

You would figure after last year's injuries we would fortify the Oline and get a plan together. Fuck this front office

We need a real Left Guard and some real Interior Oline depth this offseason.[/quote]


Beat me too it.

I'm tired of all the excuses for Doctson and Preston Smith.
You've been calling out Lauvao since January!

Let me simplify things.
Preston Smith has zero sacks and half the season is over.
Doctson has never had a yard receiving game in 4 years.
Mo Harris had one yesterday. Rod Gardner is a 1000yard WR, Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelley had 100yard games. Josh Doctson can't manage to break one tackle in 4 years and put numbers for one good game.

I don't get why these guys get a free pass to contribute NOTHING!

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[quote=jamf;1205946]I don't get the doom and gloom.

Did anyone expect Lauvao to play more than 8 games, besides the Redskins?
It sucks for Scherff, he is a great player and we will miss him but this won't have a big impact on the team since the top 2 WRs are only able to contribute 65 yards per game average.

Half the season is over. The passing game what it is. Josh Doctson isn't going to get any better. Paul Richardson is a deep threat on a team that doesn't throw deep. The passing game was never going to help the running game by stretching the field.
Alex Smith has Zero trust in his WRs to get open. Vernon Davis is the go to pass catcher on the team yet again. Let that sink. Last year, VD lead the team in yards per reception and he is doing it again this year.

Nothing changes with these injuries, it's the AP and VD show the rest of the way regardless of what happens with the line.


F U Bruce Allen.[/quote]

I'm also wondering why is it that in certain position groups, such as the d-line, they are quick to drop guys (Lanier, Hood), yet that doesn't seem to happen with the o-line. Is it the position coaches?

I hope we see some free agent guards come in to Redskins Park this week. I know for next game we'll need to roll out with a patchwork line, but at least show that you are trying to do something.

I also hate that once again injuries are becoming a factor. You can have good depth but right now our two best linemen (TW and Schreff) are out.

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Injuries are not an excuse. Falcons had two guards missing and ran us over.

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[quote=jamf;1205950]Beat me too it.

I'm tired of all the excuses for Doctson and Preston Smith.
You've been calling out Lauvao since January!

Let me simplify things.
Preston Smith has zero sacks and half the season is over.
Doctson has never had a yard receiving game in 4 years.
Mo Harris had one yesterday. Rod Gardner is a 1000yard WR, Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelley had 100yard games. Josh Doctson can't manage to break one tackle in 4 years and put numbers for one good game.

I don't get why these guys get a free pass to contribute NOTHING![/quote]

JAMF we need to get in this front office


And when it comes to Preston Smith...he almost makes the sack and almost makes the tackle a whole lot. so give him credit...almost

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[quote=skinsfan69;1205952]Injuries are not an excuse. Falcons had two guards missing and ran us over.[/quote]

They also had both starting safeties out for the year and were a bottom 5 defense...


you would have never known it

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The skins always do this, they play a beat up team and lose. Play a Rookie QB and get rolled, Julio Jones can't get into the EZ all season and he finds it against us.. Same old story

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[quote=jamf;1205946]
Nothing changes with these injuries, it's the AP and VD show the rest of the way regardless of what happens with the line.
[/quote]

It's definitely their show, but their show won't go well. Peterson will be lucky to run for 3 yards per carry behind this line for the rest of the way.

It's doom and gloom for sure, if we're being honest.

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[quote=Chico23231;1205953]JAMF we need to get in this front office


And when it comes to Preston Smith...he almost makes the sack and almost makes the tackle a whole lot. so give him credit...almost[/quote]

I hope we almost re-sign him.

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Injuries are not an excuse, but it doesn't fucking help to have them. These injuries are probably were the difference between an ugly loss and a pretty loss. Even if the team didn't lay an egg with their play and made fewer mistakes, you're not beating the Falcons with 3 o-line starters out, along with the other injuries the team already had.

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Bruce Allen needs to be shit canned and never allowed near this team again. On top of that we need to find a GM and a coach that ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS HOW TO BUILD A FOOTBALL TEAM.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1205958]Injuries are not an excuse, but it doesn't fucking help to have them. These injuries are probably were the difference between an ugly loss and a pretty loss. Even if the team didn't lay an egg with their play and made fewer mistakes, you're not beating the Falcons with 3 o-line starters out, along with the other injuries the team already had.[/quote]

[url]https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/was/2018-snap-counts.htm[/url]

I did not compare us to every team but most teams only have 6 linemen with over 25% of offensive snap counts and the top 5 (starting linemen) are usually in the 80-90% if not 100% We have 7 linemen over 25%. We are approaching New York Giants territory.

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Just depressing to think injuries could derail our season yet again. Losing Scherff really hurts.

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[quote=MTK;1206092]Just depressing to think injuries could derail our season yet again. Losing Scherff really hurts.[/quote]

It does. He and Trent offer big tactical advantages.

But a good coach will find another way. Time for Gruden to prove he deserves to remain head coach.

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[quote=MTK;1206092]Just depressing to think injuries could derail our season yet again. Losing Scherff really hurts.[/quote]

Scherff hurts for sure...like TW, there is no depth that can step in replicate their play.

BUT

You would think after last year the FO would look at what happen and do a better job. They absolutely did not.

Luavao is garbage...he's missed like 46% of his possible games due to injury. That should have been upgraded. Should have spent there.

The back ups...Kujo - who nobody wanted here apparently- Bergstrom - he's certified garbage....UDFA nobodies...????

You needed to add a quality backup....along the line of Nsekhe...who could play both Guard spot.

This is NOT bad luck. Injuries are apart of the game and the Front Office fucked it up period.

We could have done more to lessen the impact of these losses folks.

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Tress Way stat time: He ranks second in NFL in percentage of punts landing inside the 20 (56.8 percent); has 21 such punts. Avg starting field position after his punts: 78.6 yards from goal line (7th best). making teams drive a long way.

At least we have a great Punter that helps the defense when our shit offense stalls

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[quote=punch it in;1205961]Bruce Allen needs to be shit canned and never allowed near this team again. On top of that we need to find a GM and a coach that ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS HOW TO BUILD A FOOTBALL TEAM.[/quote]

Yes Allen getting fired is the first step. Allen has created a terrible culture at Redskins Park. He is unprepared and untrustworthy according to player agents.
[URL="https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2018/04/19/nfl-agent-poll-bruce-allen-redskins-bill-belichick-demaurice-smith/528741002/"]https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2018/04/19/nfl-agent-poll-bruce-allen-redskins-bill-belichick-demaurice-smith/528741002/[/URL]

The top coaches do not want to come here. That is a major problem.
Our coaching staff is not good at developing talent and making in game adjustments. We are constantly out coached.

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On the play where SL got injured, he was absolutely man-handled by Jarrett. That right there should tell u all we need to know about this FO, its not like that was a bad play, the dude sucks and always has.

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[quote=Chico23231;1206095]Scherff hurts for sure...like TW, there is no depth that can step in replicate their play.

BUT

You would think after last year the FO would look at what happen and do a better job. They absolutely did not.

Luavao is garbage...he's missed like 46% of his possible games due to injury. That should have been upgraded. Should have spent there.

The back ups...Kujo - who nobody wanted here apparently- Bergstrom - he's certified garbage....UDFA nobodies...????

You needed to add a quality backup....along the line of Nsekhe...who could play both Guard spot.

This is NOT bad luck. Injuries are apart of the game and the Front Office fucked it up period.

We could have done more to lessen the impact of these losses folks.[/quote]

Add: we had cap space this offseason but we mismanaged it and left some unspent. In free agency, we have this strategy of waiting until the high quality FA’s gets signed then we go in for the scraps, the so called second tier. Why? Because we have been burned in FA 18 years ago. WTF!
Our biggest need this offseason was LG. Our FO response: Not addressed. Pass. We love Kouandijo.
We need a GM and FO that is not afraid of the Snyder past. Be bold. Make some bold - strong moves every once in a while. Address your teams biggest weakness for fucks sake.
Front Office: stop being a petty, insecure sniveling weak piece of shit. Get out of the Leaks game. Get out of the trying to look good in the press game, which you suck at and build a good team. Try that exclusively for a while. Focus.
Know your starting QB’s first name.

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If you draft players who have injury histories and you sign FA's who have injury histories and those players have missed a lot of games due to their injuries, guess what is going to happen when they join your team? It is nothing more than common sense to avoid acquiring such players in the early rounds of drafts or to count on such players to fill holes on your team as FA's.

The Skins FO can't even get the easy stuff right.

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"I liked Cooper last year, he was solid. Better run-blocker than pass-protector, but not bad in the latter. Obviously, he'll need some time (games) to settle in after not playing yet this season, but he's the best of that group."

Per Brandon Thorn - NFL OL Scout