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punch it in 10-07-2019 11:26 AM

Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 
Well it is that time again, although this turn seemed a bit overdue. Gruden was terrible at calling plays, and terrible at selecting his staff. He failed miserably at selecting a DC. He was horrible at halftime adjustments. So imo he was the wrong guy, up against Dan and Bruce or not. Who will the next guy be? Who donyou want it to be? I cant stop thinking Urban Meyer. He isnít currently coaching and Haskins and McLaurin are a draw for him.
Does it even matter though? Will DS and BA say all the right things about team control and than pull their strings from yachts and luxury boxes? Will the new HC have the insight to let DS know BA has to go?

Chico23231 10-07-2019 11:28 AM

Re: Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 
it does matter...you can get good coach to hide the blemishes of questionable Front office moves...

skinsfaninok 10-07-2019 11:29 AM

Re: Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 
Posted in the other thread but:

Per Espn's Ed Werder

"The Redskins top 3 candidates are , Mike Tomlin, Todd Bowles , Eric Bieniemy"

SFREDSKIN 10-07-2019 11:29 AM

Re: Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 
Fire Bruce Allen first!!

jamf 10-07-2019 11:29 AM

Re: Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 
Doesn't matter.
Snyder only cares about getting a new stadium.

Chico23231 10-07-2019 11:33 AM

Re: Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1233468]Posted in the other thread but:

Per Espn's Ed Werder

"The Redskins top 3 candidates are , Mike Tomlin, Todd Bowles , Eric Bieniemy"[/quote]

If true, disappointing...Eric Beniemy is the only legit candidate. Todd Bowles did not look like a HC, awesome coordinator, piss poor HC. Heís defensives werenít good in NY and thatís a huge problem

skinsfaninok 10-07-2019 11:39 AM

Re: Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1233472]If true, disappointing...Eric Beniemy is the only legit candidate. Todd Bowles did not look like a HC, awesome coordinator, piss poor HC. Heís defensives werenít good in NY and thatís a huge problem[/quote]

I'm fine with Tomlin and agree on Bowles, no thanks

SunnySide 10-07-2019 11:41 AM

Re: Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 
[quote=punch it in;1233463]Well it is that time again, although this turn seemed a bit overdue. Gruden was terrible at calling plays, and terrible at selecting his staff. He failed miserably at selecting a DC. He was horrible at halftime adjustments. So imo he was the wrong guy, up against Dan and Bruce or not. Who will the next guy be? Who donyou want it to be? I cant stop thinking Urban Meyer. He isnít currently coaching and Haskins and McLaurin are a draw for him.
Does it even matter though? Will DS and BA say all the right things about team control and than pull their strings from yachts and luxury boxes? Will the new HC have the insight to let DS know BA has to go?[/quote]

1. He was not terrible at calling plays imo. Our passing scheme I think was top 15. When we had Cousins, DJax, Garcon we had a top 5 offense.

Top 5.

2. Did he ever get to select his DC? I personally dont think he had any say on hiring or firing Haslett or Manunsky.

3. Horrible second half adjustments? Not as easily defensible but if you look at the MASH O line unit we had to roll out year after year, no amount of coaching can make up for an O line of Penn-Flowers-Bergstrom-Wes Martin-Moses. Does he get any credit for coming up with a game plan that gave his over matched team a chance in the first half?

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Jay had to go, he is not head coach material and his time here had run its course. He was a glorified offensive coordinator with Allen/Snyder choosing his coaching staff and players. I think Jay wasnt fired last year bc he was willing to just cede control and take a back seat to Allen/Snyder making decisions.

I personally dont think its fair to lay any criticism at Jay for Manunsky. I think he has 0 say in it.

I really hope Jay identifies key decisions that he had no say in.

Chico23231 10-07-2019 11:43 AM

Re: Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 
If Bieniemy would come over, I really wish a Front Exe would come with him cause they got several GM candidates within that building.


A guy im interesting in getting an interview would be Matt Eberflus DC Indy.


Ideally, Eric Beiniemy HC/ Mike Zimmer DC would great if Zim would be fired at end of year.

Chico23231 10-07-2019 11:44 AM

Re: Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1233474]I'm fine with Tomlin and agree on Bowles, no thanks[/quote]

No way on Tomlin...he had overly talented teams and got nowhere. Would be a terrible hire

Buffalo Bob 10-07-2019 11:45 AM

Re: Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1233472]If true, disappointing...Eric Beniemy is the only legit candidate. Todd Bowles did not look like a HC, awesome coordinator, piss poor HC. Heís defensives werenít good in NY and thatís a huge problem[/quote]

Yikes, Bieniemy is 50 years old. I remember when he played for the Colorado Buffalos, that didn't seem that long ago. Can he bring most of the Chiefs offense with him?

jamf 10-07-2019 11:49 AM

Re: Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 
Can we all agree that a new coach will not lead this team to the playoffs next year?
They need to purge the roster of Grudens kids (CT, Reed, VD) and look at building a solid roster before they put lipstick back on this pig.

DYoungJelly 10-07-2019 11:52 AM

Re: Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1233480]No way on Tomlin...he had overly talented teams and got nowhere. Would be a terrible hire[/QUOTE]He had a top 3 oline, rb, wr, a good QB, and good dense and always under performed.

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skinsfaninok 10-07-2019 11:55 AM

Re: Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 
[quote=jamf;1233484]Can we all agree that a new coach will not lead this team to the playoffs next year?
They need to purge the roster of Grudens kids (CT, Reed, VD) and look at building a solid roster before they put lipstick back on this pig.[/quote]

It's not likely but it does happen, u have to wait and see what we have on the roster first

punch it in 10-07-2019 12:16 PM

Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?
 
[QUOTE=SunnySide;1233476]1. He was not terrible at calling plays imo. Our passing scheme I think was top 15. When we had Cousins, DJax, Garcon we had a top 5 offense.



Top 5.



2. Did he ever get to select his DC? I personally dont think he had any say on hiring or firing Haslett or Manunsky.



3. Horrible second half adjustments? Not as easily defensible but if you look at the MASH O line unit we had to roll out year after year, no amount of coaching can make up for an O line of Penn-Flowers-Bergstrom-Wes Martin-Moses. Does he get any credit for coming up with a game plan that gave his over matched team a chance in the first half?



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Jay had to go, he is not head coach material and his time here had run its course. He was a glorified offensive coordinator with Allen/Snyder choosing his coaching staff and players. I think Jay wasnt fired last year bc he was willing to just cede control and take a back seat to Allen/Snyder making decisions.



I personally dont think its fair to lay any criticism at Jay for Manunsky. I think he has 0 say in it.



I really hope Jay identifies key decisions that he had no say in.[/QUOTE]



You disagree with everything I think made him a bad HC but agree he is not a good HC. Why do you think he wasnít a good HC than?
For the record i dont know if he had full say on the DC but never read or heard anything saying he didnít. I completely disagree with ur take on playcalling. Yes we had a good pass offense, but we had a solid quarterback and wrís and still didnít win. I remember plenty of questionable calls with that team.
As far as second half adjustments this isnít just a current issue. It has been an issue the entire time he was here. Good oline or not.


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