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Chico23231 09-16-2020 09:45 AM

Cards Pregame Thread
 
Skins have a tough game this week on the road versus the Cards. They are coming off a huge win versus 49ers where Hopkins and Kyler Murray had big games.

To me it’s all about one thing, defending the Air Raid offense. Their coach had another offseason of installing it against NFL defenses and we saw growth last week against a strong 9ers Team. Hopkins talent will transcend in any offense but Murray fit for what they want to do is perfect.

Murray is never under center and running the ball takes a backseat to a fast passing attack. It’s very much a rhythm offense and Kingbury is trying to get as many plays as possible in a game.

Ways to stop should play to our strengths on defense, winning 1 on 1 pass rushing against their avg-below avg Oline and disguising multiple zone based coverages with some zone blitzing nuance thrown in.

I expect less beef up front with more athletic front (less Payne and Settle, More Matty I and RK). Our CB should be confident after last week performance, they will have to have a big week. Will be interesting to see who will be assigned to Murray...Collins or one of the LB. Apke needs to be better this week.

Offense, I expect us to get the Run game going this week. More Jd And Gibby touches out the backfield. Arizona’s dline isn’t as strong or as stout as Philly, I like our Oline to bounce back a little bit.

Hail!

skinsfaninok 09-16-2020 10:04 AM

Re: Cards Pregame Thread
 
If our pass rush is as good as Sunday we will be 2-0. The Cards OL is not very good, I'd expect a ton of screens and short passes.

GridIron26 09-16-2020 10:08 AM

Re: Cards Pregame Thread
 
Nice points Chico and skinsfan. We cannot forget Drake too, he can win games for Cardinals.

SFREDSKIN 09-16-2020 10:14 AM

Re: Cards Pregame Thread
 
The cards center got dinged up on Sunday, their OL is not bad. They key is to contain Murray from scrambling, Drake and Edmunds are solid RB’s and then their is their WR’s and solid TE’s. The Cards didn’t get lucky beating the 49ers, they earned it. Their D is solid too. Hopefully we take out Murray, he’s one big hit away since he’s not that big despite gaining 15lbs this season.

Schneed10 09-16-2020 10:25 AM

Re: Cards Pregame Thread
 
Just one thing to note here, is that the 49ers also have an incredible defensive line yet lost to Arizona in Week 1. So I think we'll need our offense to make some progress here in Week 2. It would be a good week for Dwayne and Terry to hit a bomb or two.

SunnySide 09-16-2020 10:35 AM

Re: Cards Pregame Thread
 
Wentz last 10 drives vs. 4 or less rushers by Washington was 6-18 2 ints.

I expect Rivera to have the defense discipline. Kyler has to be patient, but I also think this is a Kenyan Drake/Chase game .

Run the ball and play action.

Washington let the Eagles wrs run loose, but the Eagles became too predictable trying to throw too much (Sanders was injured).

I also think Dan Arnold can make some plays this week as well. Eagles TE's had lots of room.

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8 sacks on the Eagles 2nd string line yesterday so a huge test for our O line this week.

I envision more of the same. More dink and dunk to neutralize the pass rush. Using the rush to open lanes for Kyler to run. Loads of touches for Hopkins and try close out a poor offense that really only got the win due to two big interceptions.

Need to get the lead this week and hold it.
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Looking at the ESPN game logs, Washington's longest drive to score pts started from Philly 48. The other scoring drives where from Philly 45, 42 & 20 yard lines. Even the 2018 Cardinals make a comeback with that starting field position.
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Our Oline will need to do a better job (especially Hump) because the Washies have a tremendous Dline.
No turnovers and they will have trouble scoring. KM will make enough plays with his legs to give us the W if the Cards avoid shooting themselves in the foot.

Rivera is a very good HC and he will have his team ready to play and I expect a tough battle.

[url]https://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/threads/wk-2-washington-potatoes-football-team-arizona-cardinals-pre-game-thread-09-14-20-09-29-20.367097/[/url]

^^^ These are some good posts from a Cards fan forum. They give praise to McLaurin, Chase and the D line.

If the Cards already employ a short, quick hitting passing attack that could be trouble for us. They have a great secondary with PP and Bubba Baker headlining. Chandler Jones on the DL and blue chip rookie LB Isiah Simmons (who apparently had a rough opener).

Id expect us to target our TEs and backs heavily. Stay away from PP and know what side of the field Baker is patrolling. Jones should give geron toruble, I imagine we will be handcuffed a bit giving Martin some help ... but Geron might need some help too.

Tough one.

Monkeydad 09-16-2020 10:52 AM

Re: Cards Pregame Thread
 
I read that whole Cards forum thread...sounds like they're scared of us actually. Most are calling it a trap game.

They said Coach Rivera lit them up with Kyle Allen last season. :D

jamf 09-16-2020 10:59 AM

Re: Cards Pregame Thread
 
Give the Cards credit for cutting their losses with Rosen and drafting Murray.
McLaurin is going to have Peterson all over his ass, someone else needs to step up.

Monkeydad 09-16-2020 10:59 AM

Re: Cards Pregame Thread
 
[quote=jamf;1259030]Give the Cards credit for cutting their losses with Rosen and drafting Murray.
McLaurin is going to have Peterson all his ass, someone else needs to step up.[/quote]

Patrick Peterson is no longer an elite corner.

AnonEmouse 09-16-2020 10:59 AM

Re: Cards Pregame Thread
 
Anybody got a line on Fuller's injury? Can't find an update since last week. It would be a benefit having him play this week, especially considering Hopkins.

SFREDSKIN 09-16-2020 11:01 AM

Re: Cards Pregame Thread
 
[quote=Monkeydad;1259031]Patrick Peterson is no longer an elite corner.[/quote]

I don’t know about that, he might older but he had a pretty good game on Sunday against SF.

Chico23231 09-16-2020 11:05 AM

Re: Cards Pregame Thread
 
[quote=Monkeydad;1259027]I read that whole Cards forum thread...sounds like they're scared of us actually. Most are calling it a trap game.

They said Coach Rivera lit them up with Kyle Allen last season. :D[/quote]

Carolina had 8 sacks in the game and ran the ball. Half those sacks came from LB and 1 from safety position, meaning they were blitzing.

Rivera and Turner getting that experience against is key. Gotta believe Rivera will be sitting in a lot of d meetings this week.

SunnySide 09-16-2020 11:06 AM

Re: Cards Pregame Thread
 
[quote=AnonEmouse;1259032]Anybody got a line on Fuller's injury? Can't find an update since last week. It would be a benefit having him play this week, especially considering Hopkins.[/quote]

I havent seen anything. We will know whether he is active, limited participation or out for wed and thurs practices. If he is out on Wed .. that isnt a good indicator. LP would be a good sign.

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I saw something yesterday, forget where, but we were getting a ton of Qb pressure off 4 man rushes .. which, if you can do that .. holy shit.

Chico23231 09-16-2020 11:36 AM

Re: Cards Pregame Thread
 
I bet the no 1 takeaway when the offense and Rivera watches our game tape from the Philly game....we must get the run game going, it’s imperative to winning football.

This week could be the Gibson and JD coming out party.

skinsfaninok 09-16-2020 12:01 PM

Re: Cards Pregame Thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1259040]I bet the no 1 takeaway when the offense and Rivera watches our game tape from the Philly game....we must get the run game going, it’s imperative to winning football.

This week could be the Gibson and JD coming out party.[/quote]

It's imperative to our offense especially because we lack the weapons at WR to be a pass heavy scheme. I think Turner will take more shots this week.

Haskins was just 4-12 on passes 10+ yards downfield... That won't get it done


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