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skinsfaninok 10-04-2020 04:49 PM

Ravens Postgame
 
Positives

Terry is amazing
Gibson was a steal
OL wasnít garbage
1-3 and still lead the East lololol

Negatives
Play calling was bland and they basically handcuffed Haskins all game

Defense is lost in the secondary big time
Collins sucks
Ron is playing to lose and thatís fine because he wants to build his own team so whatever.

EARTHQUAKE2689 10-04-2020 04:55 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1261313]Positives

Terry is amazing
Gibson was a steal
OL wasnít garbage
[B]1-3 and still lead the East lololol [/B]

Negatives
Play calling was bland and they basically handcuffed Haskins all game

Defense is lost in the secondary big time
Collins sucks
Ron is playing to lose and thatís fine because he wants to build his own team so whatever.[/quote]


Not if Cleveland lets Dallas come back

SunnySide 10-04-2020 05:16 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
Zero interior D line push. I know allen and Payne do a lot of things well that don't go on the stat sheet but I need more from them. They need to be great not just good.

Play calling .. I don't think Haskins is comfortable in anything but throws in front of him like slants or crosses

Secondary played above their weight

punch it in 10-04-2020 05:16 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
Good : McLaurin as usual and Gibson. He is fast. I like both them alot.

Bad : crapkins, coaching, hopkins, i would say defense but they were on the field too much. Though our secondary is weak.

mooby 10-04-2020 05:25 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
Terry Mac showing up to play every week. Everytime I see someone take a slant and get 10 yards after the catch, I feel like it's Terry without even seeing the #.

Haskins - well at least he had no turnovers today. But god damn we are never going to be competitive if the coaches don't trust him enough to develop an intermediate passing game. Thanks for the tease at the end to Terry Mac, it was only about 40 minutes of game time too late. It's concerning that he still has those inaccurate throws (even what should be easy check downs) that make you say wtf every week.

Everything else had flashes of potential from time to time but we're a long ways away from putting together a complete 60 minutes of football in all phases.

Still not sold on Apke/Collins back there. Apke is the more replaceable candidate considering Collins contract. I also feel like our secondary still needs to communicate better. I'm not sold on our defense yet either, while acknowledging even the best defenses have trouble containing the Ravens. There's a reason they're almost undefeated with Jackson as a starter against every team not named the Chiefs.

SunnySide 10-04-2020 05:28 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
I don't think it's the coaches not trusting him ... i don't think Haskins has the ability to read a defense, anticipate and throw a ball to a space

He needs to see his guy open before he throws it

mooby 10-04-2020 05:30 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[quote=SunnySide;1261324]I don't think it's the coaches not trusting him ... i don't think Haskins has the ability to read a defense, anticipate and throw a ball to a space

He needs to see his guy open before he throws it[/quote]

You're probably right. If that's the case he won't last half the season.

skinsfaninok 10-04-2020 05:55 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[QUOTE=SunnySide;1261324]I don't think it's the coaches not trusting him ... i don't think Haskins has the ability to read a defense, anticipate and throw a ball to a space

He needs to see his guy open before he throws it[/QUOTE]


Film shows that every week

punch it in 10-04-2020 05:56 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
There are two teams in the league that I think can finish with a worse record than us. The Jets and Giants. We play the Giants though. We got a real shot at Trevor.

skinsfaninok 10-04-2020 06:29 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
Lamar Jackson wasnít that impressive today either but itís clear heís a better passer than DH also.

Warthog 10-04-2020 06:36 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
Positives

1. McLaurin - unless he is badly hurt, McLaurin will end up being a WR GREAT for this team.

2. Gibson had a breakout game- both running and receiving. Heís a real threat as a receiver but just not a big enough substitute for a real #2 or #3 WR.

3. Kendall Fuller - 2 INT! Welcome back!

Ok GAME
4. Haskins has a decent 300yard game and had a beautiful long pass to McLaurin. But that pass was in garbage time and clearly the Ravins were happy to let McLaurin (our biggest threat) have dinky 8 yd passes for most of the game. He had no INT after being put on notice by Rivera. Still, we are waiting for a very, very good game where he SCARES defenses and opens up the running game. His progress is slow, but I guess pretty good for a guy with under 30 games in the last 5.20 years.
I personally donít think he is going to progress enough to keep the Redskins from drafting for a QB in the first round of the 2021 draft.

BAD MEN:

Both Safeties: Aptke and Collins. Collins had good plays mixed with bad ones. Why are we paying Collins so much money? I canít remember but was this one of Bruce Allenís LAST TURDS for this team? Is there no one else in the NFL FA to try instead of Aptke?


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Chico23231 10-04-2020 06:37 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
I canít believe how bad our TE play is...but been saying it for 5 years

OnceWeWereKings 10-04-2020 06:41 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[quote]=Warthog;1261339

4. Haskins has a decent 300yard game and had a beautiful long pass to McLaurin. But that pass was in garbage time[/quote]

Let's be honest....he was doing check downs and relievers were getting yac. He was still pretty inaccurate for about 80% of the game. He didn't throw any interceptions...but he's still throwing oddly off his back foot and off balance. At one point he did a 360 and threw off his back foot with absolutely no pressure on him. This is a kid whose in way over his head.

SFREDSKIN 10-04-2020 06:41 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
Start using AGG more, Cam Sims made a couple of catches, bench Darby, start Moreland.

Warthog 10-04-2020 07:03 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[QUOTE=OnceWeWereKings;1261341]Let's be honest....he was doing check downs and relievers were getting yac. He was still pretty inaccurate for about 80% of the game. He didn't throw any interceptions...but he's still throwing oddly off his back foot and off balance. At one point he did a 360 and threw off his back foot with absolutely no pressure on him. This is a kid whose in way over his head.[/QUOTE]


Agreed. As I have said, the ďexpertsĒ were dazzled by Ohio Stateís team play in his senior year, but Haskins has only one season of college experience. Seven games last year and his 4 games this season. Under 30 games experience since high school!! What?? How do you rate a guy, with so little experience, into the first round draft?

Haskins should have been ranked in the second and third round and as a project QB. Heís just too green. But I donít think Allen is the answer, otherwise someone would have picked him up for the first string. Our offense, WR, TE and OL are a year from being ready for ANY QB!


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punch it in 10-04-2020 07:08 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1261342]Start using AGG more, Cam Sims made a couple of catches, bench Darby, start Moreland.[/QUOTE]



AGG has one catch for three yards on the season? Is that right?

skinsfaninok 10-04-2020 07:20 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
Ron Rivera said bluntly that he wanted to see what Dwayne Haskins would do if they went for it on 4th and goal. He said Haskins needs to learn and understand the situation. He needed to look into the endzone or put it close to where a player could make a player at the goal line.

Lake Lewis

SFREDSKIN 10-04-2020 07:28 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[quote=punch it in;1261349]AGG has one catch for three yards on the season? Is that right?[/quote]

And a 22 yd run. They should use him, like they did Harmon last year.

skinsfaninok 10-04-2020 07:34 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
I donít see why they donít use AGG now? 1-3 and probably 1-4 next week

Chief X_Phackter 10-04-2020 07:58 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
The game was pretty much as expected for me, although I thought Haskins would be relieved of his duties at some point.

The worst part of the game for me was seeing Ron by himself taking breaks in the bench. Feel for that man. I respect his want, will, and strength, but I honestly wish he'd take a break, hand it over to Jack, and concentrate on himself.

skinsfaninok 10-04-2020 08:10 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1261359]The game was pretty much as expected for me, although I thought Haskins would be relieved of his duties at some point.

The worst part of the game for me was seeing Ron by himself taking breaks in the bench. Feel for that man. I respect his want, will, and strength, but I honestly wish he'd take a break, hand it over to Jack, and concentrate on himself.[/QUOTE]


Itís probably coming

mooby 10-04-2020 08:12 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1261352]Ron Rivera said bluntly that he wanted to see what Dwayne Haskins would do if they went for it on 4th and goal. He said Haskins needs to learn and understand the situation. He needed to look into the endzone or put it close to where a player could make a player at the goal line.

Lake Lewis[/quote]

And he failed. At least take a chance in the end zone, throwing the ball to a guy at the 7 with 3 defenders in front of him was literally wasting the play.

I'm probably one of the few remaining Haskins defenders out there (I still believe it's way too early to make judgement calls to bench him) but he's not helping his case with plays like that.

My only hope is that the deep ball to Terry Mac helps him grow a pair and not be afraid to throw past the first down marker. Right now he's playing out of the Jason Campbell playbook, everything is going within 5 yards of the LOS.

punch it in 10-04-2020 08:47 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1261354]And a 22 yd run. They should use him, like they did Harmon last year.[/QUOTE]



Totally agree. I thought this was find out what we got time?

Chief X_Phackter 10-04-2020 08:53 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
Was that Haskin's first 300 yard passing game?

Chico23231 10-04-2020 08:58 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
Man seeing Ron Rivera on the bench sucks...respect to the coach, know he is dealing with a lot of more important shit other than ball.

Looks like he was a lil worn out today. Coach, take care of whatís important

#RiveraStrong

Defensewins 10-04-2020 09:04 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1261366]Was that Haskin's first 300 yard passing game?[/quote]

In a game we were down 28-7 early in the 3rd quarter. We ran 19 planned run plays in the entire game. 300 passing yards was not because it was from strength, it was from weakness.

Chief X_Phackter 10-04-2020 09:15 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[quote=Defensewins;1261369]In a game we were down 28-7 early in the 3rd quarter. We ran 19 planned run plays in the entire game. 300 passing yards was not because it was from strength, it was from weakness.[/quote]

Cool your heels there high speed. I didn't say it was from anything, I was just asking a question.

punch it in 10-04-2020 09:24 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1261370]Cool your heels there high speed. I didn't say it was from anything, I was just asking a question.[/QUOTE]



Yes it was his first. I think 240 was his high before this. Yac must have accounted for at least 200 of those yards though. All we do is throw screens.

Chief X_Phackter 10-04-2020 09:25 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
I have a feeling that this team would probably be 3-1 right now with any one of at least 24 other starting QBs in the league. I guess we'll find out this week whether or not Haskins showed progression in the eyes of the coaches. The nail in the coffin for me was NOT throwing it in the end zone on that 4th down play.

punch it in 10-04-2020 09:33 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1261373]I have a feeling that this team would probably be 3-1 right now with any one of at least 24 other starting QBs in the league. I guess we'll find out this week whether or not Haskins showed progression in the eyes of the coaches. The nail in the coffin for me was NOT throwing it in the end zone on that 4th down play.[/QUOTE]



I agree. Quarterback is that important. We dont need Aaron Rodgers we just need semi decent out of the position and we could have won a couple more.

skinsfaninok 10-04-2020 09:35 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
I was hoping we'd take Tua at #2 over CY simply because it's hard to turn down a franchise type QB, but I'm glad we did because now we'll have a franchise DE and we'll draft a QB next yr

SFREDSKIN 10-04-2020 10:16 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1261375]I was hoping we'd take Tua at #2 over CY simply because it's hard to turn down a franchise type QB, but I'm glad we did because now we'll have a franchise DE and we'll draft a QB next yr[/quote]

Tu'a is on the bench, CY has been productive and will be all-pro one day and makes a big difference on D. It doesn't help Haskins to have a weak TE group, inexperienced RB and WR group.

skinsfaninok 10-04-2020 10:23 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1261377]Tu'a is on the bench, CY has been productive and will be all-pro one day and makes a big difference on D. It doesn't help Haskins to have a weak TE group, inexperienced RB and WR group.[/QUOTE]


No it doesnít help but Terry is a top 10 WR, Gibson looks like a future star RB , and Thomas hasnít been terrible at TE. OL was decent today as well

Chico23231 10-04-2020 10:31 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1261378]No it doesnít help but Terry is a top 10 WR, Gibson looks like a future star RB , and Thomas hasnít been terrible at TE. OL was decent today as well[/quote]

We need a real TE and another outside WR. Thinking between wright/sims our slot is ok

SFREDSKIN 10-04-2020 10:31 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1261378]No it doesnít help but Terry is a top 10 WR, Gibson looks like a future star RB , and Thomas hasnít been terrible at TE. OL was decent today as well[/quote]

Very true, but we need another threat on the other side, they have to start using AGG, use Cam Sims more. On D DArby and Apke should be benched, I want Moreland to start and I like Kamren Kurl even if he's a rookie.

skinsfaninok 10-04-2020 10:46 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
Dwayne played today like Alex would have to be honest. Small short yardage passes. Average was 4.7 yards per target.

rocnrik 10-04-2020 11:44 PM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[quote=punch it in;1261374]I agree. Quarterback is that important. We dont need Aaron Rodgers we just need semi decent out of the position and we could have won a couple more.[/quote]

I said the very same thing leading up to draft ... without a QB you ainít got nothing ... As great a prospect as Young is I wanted team to trade out of that spot and get a QB AND another player of need ... OL ,TE , .. itís water over the damn now... we need a QB !!

SkinzWin 10-05-2020 07:50 AM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1261336]Lamar Jackson wasnít that impressive today either but itís clear heís a better passer than DH also.[/quote]

Heard a stat during the game on radio that coming into week 4, the Ravens had the 32nd ranked passing offense in the league.

skinsfaninok 10-05-2020 08:51 AM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[quote=SkinzWin;1261388]Heard a stat during the game on radio that coming into week 4, the Ravens had the 32nd ranked passing offense in the league.[/quote]

He's RG3 2.0 but he can stay healthy, only real difference is he may be a little faster but not by much

Chico23231 10-05-2020 09:08 AM

Re: Ravens Postgame
 
[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/washington-needs-better-play-out-landon-collins-and-troy-apke-moving[/url]

Washington needs better play out of Collins and Apke moving forward


Safety position has been garbage


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