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EARTHQUAKE2689 03-09-2022 03:16 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
So we traded two 3rd round picks for him. He had 27 TDs and 7 ints last year. When he is healthy we've seen first hand what he can do. The risk is pretty minimal if you ask me. No matter what we did people were gonna be upset. We didn't get Rodgers nor Wilson, would you all rather trade away a first for Jimmy G.? I'm confused at those who are ticked off, what is the alternative solution? Heineke again? We know he isn't winning anything

skinsfan69 03-09-2022 03:17 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1312270]Just because there was a possibility of him being released, doesn't mean that there wasn't competition for his services.[/quote]

Again who cares? Why would you get into a bidding war for Wentz? He isn't worth giving up a 2nd and 3rd rounder. He just isn't worth that kind of compensation.

mredskins 03-09-2022 03:17 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
Right now everyone was hoping for a Red Ryder BB gun for Xmas and we end up with a cap gun.

I am still hoping we draft someone as well.

Sigh

skinsfan69 03-09-2022 03:21 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1312271]What a stupid fucking trade!! Gave way too much for a washed up QB, Jimmy G. Would have been better[/quote]

No way would Kyle send him here. He wouldn't do that.

Chief X_Phackter 03-09-2022 03:23 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1312277]So we traded two 3rd round picks for him. He had 27 TDs and 7 ints last year. When he is healthy we've seen first hand what he can do. The risk is pretty minimal if you ask me. No matter what we did people were gonna be upset. We didn't get Rodgers nor Wilson, would you all rather trade away a first for Jimmy G.? I'm confused at those who are ticked off, what is the alternative solution? Heineke again? We know he isn't winning anything[/quote]

Exactly.

The alternatives were likely Jimmy G (who would cost MORE), Winston (coming off an ACL), Trubisky (probably following Daboll) and Mariota (?). A couple day 2 picks over two years isn't a bad price for an upgrade at the most important position on the field. It's possible that this could end up being a terrible move, but I think it's more probable that this turns out pretty good.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-09-2022 03:24 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[IMG]https://i.imgflip.com/6823i7.jpg[/IMG]

Chief X_Phackter 03-09-2022 03:25 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1312278]Again who cares? Why would you get into a bidding war for Wentz? He isn't worth giving up a 2nd and 3rd rounder. He just isn't worth that kind of compensation.[/quote]

There's a bidding war for every QB that is "available". Wentz is no different.

Again, why are so many people so upset that they upgraded the QB position?

A 3rd this year and probably a 2nd next year...big deal...

MTK 03-09-2022 03:30 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1312274]So what. Why are they so hell bent on getting him in the first place? Go get Mitch or Mariota. It's not like Wentz is any better than those guys. You'd land one and keep your draft picks.[/quote]

I'd definitely argue Wentz is better than Trubisky and Mariota.

And if you went after those guys, you're competing against other teams with no guarantees you can sign one. Then what, you go into the draft with your hands tied having to trade up or pray someone you really like falls to 11? Sounds like a recipe to end up with Heinicke as your starter again.

skinsfaninok 03-09-2022 03:30 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1312277]So we traded two 3rd round picks for him. He had 27 TDs and 7 ints last year. When he is healthy we've seen first hand what he can do. The risk is pretty minimal if you ask me. No matter what we did people were gonna be upset. We didn't get Rodgers nor Wilson, would you all rather trade away a first for Jimmy G.? I'm confused at those who are ticked off, what is the alternative solution? Heineke again? We know he isn't winning anything[/QUOTE]


This is where Im at, hes a legit QB1 when healthy. Is he elite? No but hes mid tier and way better than Heineke and Allen


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MTK 03-09-2022 03:32 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1312283]There's a bidding war for every QB that is "available". Wentz is no different.

Again, why are so many people so upset that they upgraded the QB position?

A 3rd this year and probably a 2nd next year...big deal...[/quote]

I don't get the strong negative reactions either. I don't love the move but I don't hate it either. People act like draft picks are gold or something, each pick is a gamble and more often than not you lose.

skinsfaninok 03-09-2022 03:33 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
If Wentz has 30 Tds next year and 10 picks and we win 10 games id take that all day

Chief X_Phackter 03-09-2022 03:33 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
He's better than Heinicke, Allen, Fitz, every QB coming out of the draft this year, Mariota, Trubisky, Winston...His contract is not unreasonable, and the asking price was fair. All in all, I don't see a lot to be upset about, unless you just enjoy being upset about literally everything this franchise does - because you are just accustomed to being upset about literally everything this franchise does...

skinsfaninok 03-09-2022 03:37 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
We also went from having the 4th best Qb to 2nd in the division


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Ruhskins 03-09-2022 03:41 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[quote=MTK;1312286]I don't get the strong negative reactions either. I don't love the move but I don't hate it either. People act like draft picks are gold or something, each pick is a gamble and more often than not you lose.[/quote]

It's almost as if people forget how terrible Heinecke was last year.

MTK 03-09-2022 03:49 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1312291]It's almost as if people forget how terrible Heinecke was last year.[/quote]

Seriously.

The position has been upgraded significantly.

We can seriously compete for the division now.


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