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TheMalcolmConnection 03-09-2022 03:50 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
I'm just being bitchy (mostly about the cap space), but argh, he was like Plan D for me. If SOMEHOW, we finally get lucky and capture any of what he had as a rookie, this is pure genius. Maybe we can actually not use our first on a QB.

Ruhskins 03-09-2022 03:50 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
As someone who was getting on the Watson bandwagon, this is a nice wake up call:

@fullblownbrian
Im honestly so relieved right now. Hes an immediate upgrade that doesnt prevent us from drafting a QB with a high pick. And I can stop listening to fans begging we mortgage the future for a sexual predator.

Schneed10 03-09-2022 03:51 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
Eyes wide open on this, we're going to get frustrated with accuracy issues for sure because 62% completion percentage sucks.

But watch this video, which admittedly is the highlight package, but you can see the strong arm from funky platforms. Falling backward, rolling away, across the body. Heinicke can't make these throws. That's how 27-7 can happen.

Russell Wilson he is not but he's better than what we've had. Anyway, use this video to try to get a little excited, if nothing else:

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skinsfaninok 03-09-2022 03:58 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;1312295]Eyes wide open on this, we're going to get frustrated with accuracy issues for sure because 62% completion percentage sucks.

But watch this video, which admittedly is the highlight package, but you can see the strong arm from funky platforms. Falling backward, rolling away, across the body. Heinicke can't make these throws. That's how 27-7 can happen.

Russell Wilson he is not but he's better than what we've had. Anyway, use this video to try to get a little excited, if nothing else:

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Love it , no more ducks floating 15 yards


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Schneed10 03-09-2022 04:02 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1312296]Love it , no more ducks floating 15 yards


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And he can still escape. Not sure we lose anything in the mobility department from Heinicke to Wentz.

skinsfan69 03-09-2022 04:03 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
You guys are thinking of the Carson Wentz of a few years ago. He's a bad QB now. He isn't much better than TH and costs a lot more plus you just gave up a couple of picks.

Reminds me a lot of the McNabb trade. Damaged goods.

skinsfaninok 03-09-2022 04:07 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
Darius Leonard is not happy with Wentz leaving. Said here we go again with another year another QB


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skinsfaninok 03-09-2022 04:08 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;1312297]And he can still escape. Not sure we lose anything in the mobility department from Heinicke to Wentz.[/QUOTE]


TH has a quicker twitch but the arm talent makes up for that imo


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skinsfan69 03-09-2022 04:08 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1312290]We also went from having the 4th best Qb to 2nd in the division


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LOL.. Ok this is where you are just flat out wrong. The Eagles had him in their building and obviously felt Hurts was the better guy.

Doug P benched him for Hurts. So you are saying you know something that DP doesn't???

Chief X_Phackter 03-09-2022 04:08 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1312298]You guys are thinking of the Carson Wentz of a few years ago. He's a bad QB now. He isn't much better than TH and costs a lot more plus you just gave up a couple of picks.

Reminds me a lot of the McNabb trade. Damaged goods.[/quote]

Not even close...

Ruhskins 03-09-2022 04:11 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1312298]You guys are thinking of the Carson Wentz of a few years ago. He's a bad QB now. He isn't much better than TH and costs a lot more plus you just gave up a couple of picks.

Reminds me a lot of the McNabb trade. Damaged goods.[/quote]

This is nothing like the McNabb trade and you're reaching with this comment.

I'm not saying you have to like this, but you're making it worst than it seems. And Heinecke was terrible.

Chief X_Phackter 03-09-2022 04:17 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1312301]LOL.. Ok this is where you are just flat out wrong. The Eagles had him in their building and obviously felt Hurts was the better guy.

Doug P benched him for Hurts. So you are saying you know something that DP doesn't???[/quote]

That was a lost season with a bad team. They were 3-8-1. Even Pederson knew he had to see what Hurts could offer over the last four games. That had more to do with evaluating Hurts, than anything else.

His last five years: TD / INT

2017: 33 / 7
2018: 21 / 7
2019: 27 / 7
2020: 16 / 15
2021: 27 / 7

2020 was the outlier - the year he was traded to the Colts.

skinsfan69 03-09-2022 04:18 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1312303]This is nothing like the McNabb trade and you're reaching with this comment.

I'm not saying you have to like this, but you're making it worst than it seems. And Heinecke was terrible.[/quote]

Watch him when his team needed him the most. He shit all over himself against the worst team in the league. Winning QB's don't do that.

I have just never really been a fan of the guy. It's like the league caught up to him and he had no change up. He is always trying to make superman plays ducking under the d-linemen, then he either fumbles or takes horrible sacks. He just makes way too many bad plays. He is a bigger version of RG3.

Again, when two teams move on from you that is just a really bad sign. Real bad. Ballard is a solid GM, he's not going to just get rid of his starting QB for no reason.

skinsfan69 03-09-2022 04:20 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1312304]That was a lost season with a bad team. They were 3-8-1. Even Pederson knew he had to see what Hurts could offer over the last four games. That had more to do with evaluating Hurts, than anything else.

His last five years: TD / INT

2017: 33 / 7
2018: 21 / 7
2019: 27 / 7
2020: 16 / 15
2021: 27 / 7

2020 was the outlier - the year he was traded to the Colts.[/quote]

You guys kill me w/ your stat sheets. lol.

skinsfan69 03-09-2022 04:21 PM

Re: Welcome Carson Wentz
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1312302]Not even close...[/quote]

Why?? both are washed up. Only difference is only one team had given up on McNabb. Two have given up on Wentz.


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