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PorkSkins 09-17-2020 03:07 PM

Fans at Fed Ex
 
Hopefully, city officials have a change of heart and allow 20-25K at the games. Particularly if the team starts to excel or simply play above its expected level.

I believe only two teams--us and the Raiders--decided to prematurely not allow fans at games for the entire season. It was odd, not only watching our game but also other games without any fans in attendance.

I'm hoping things change for us in regards to fans in the stands in the next few weeks.

MTK 09-17-2020 03:31 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
Ramping up fans in the stands when the virus is expected to start picking up again seems like a really bad idea. [URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/fan-who-attended-texans-chiefs-nfl-opener-tests-positive-for-covid-19-174102860.html"]A fan that was at the Chiefs game has tested positive.[/URL]

irish 09-17-2020 03:38 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
Fed Ex isn't in DC so city officials have no say in what goes on. WFT decided this in conjunction with the State of MD and Prince Georges County.

Chico23231 09-17-2020 03:55 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
Fans belong in the stands period. It can be done correctly

skinsfan69 09-17-2020 05:02 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
There is plenty of room at Fed Ex to let 25,000 people in and have them spread out. Just a bunch of nonsense not letting anyone in. Have to learn how to live with this virus, and not hide and run from it.

skinsfan69 09-17-2020 05:06 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[quote=MTK;1259125]Ramping up fans in the stands when the virus is expected to start picking up again seems like a really bad idea. [URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/fan-who-attended-texans-chiefs-nfl-opener-tests-positive-for-covid-19-174102860.html"]A fan that was at the Chiefs game has tested positive.[/URL][/quote]

Zero proof that that person got the virus at Arrowhead. That article should not have even been written because it has no foundation.

PorkSkins 09-17-2020 05:20 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[quote=Chico23231;1259127]Fans belong in the stands period. It can be done correctly[/quote]

Exactly!

PorkSkins 09-17-2020 05:21 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1259128]There is plenty of room at Fed Ex to let 25,000 people in and have them spread out. Just a bunch of nonsense not letting anyone in. Have to learn how to live with this virus, and not hide and run from it.[/quote]

Concur.

Chico23231 09-17-2020 05:29 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1259128]There is plenty of room at Fed Ex to let 25,000 people in and have them spread out. Just a bunch of nonsense not letting anyone in. Have to learn how to live with this virus, and not hide and run from it.[/quote]

Get out the basement and live!

MTK 09-17-2020 06:10 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1259129]Zero proof that that person got the virus at Arrowhead. That article should not have even been written because it has no foundation.[/QUOTE]


Doesn’t matter where he got it, problem is he could have spread it while at the game.


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skinsfan69 09-17-2020 06:31 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[quote=MTK;1259134]Doesn’t matter where he got it, problem is he could have spread it while at the game.


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That is the risk you take if you decide to go to a game. If you want or need to stay home then do so.

The piece was written to spread more fear, which is what the media has been doing for 6 months straight.

If you get on an airplane there's a risk that it can crash. When you get in your car you know there's a risk that someone is texting while driving and can rear end you.

punch it in 09-17-2020 06:38 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1259125]Ramping up fans in the stands when the virus is expected to start picking up again seems like a really bad idea. [URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/fan-who-attended-texans-chiefs-nfl-opener-tests-positive-for-covid-19-174102860.html"]A fan that was at the Chiefs game has tested positive.[/URL][/QUOTE]



Agreed. We have the patience of gnats. Lol.

punch it in 09-17-2020 06:47 PM

Fans at Fed Ex
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1259139]That is the risk you take if you decide to go to a game. If you want or need to stay home then do so.



The piece was written to spread more fear, which is what the media has been doing for 6 months straight.



If you get on an airplane there's a risk that it can crash. When you get in your car you know there's a risk that someone is texting while driving and can rear end you.[/QUOTE]



Come on man. Nobody is trying to scare anyone. 200,000 deaths should be scary regardless of who writes what about it. Our impatience and paranoia about this being some sort of fear tactic is why the virus is running rampant in this country unlike any other. Sometimes there is just a shitty situation. This is a terribly shitty situation. The longer we fight the protocol the longer it will go on. That is the ironic thing. It isn’t the person going to the game that I fear for, because like you said it is their choice. But after said event those 25,000 people go back into their communities. The rest of those people who chose not to go are now at risk that it could have been a super spreader event. It isn’t conspiracy or fear tactic it is just science. We keep fighting what the doctors and scientists tell us and we will keep dying at a higher rate than the rest of the world. If we all Follow their advice we will be done with this shit sooner, but instead we are fighting it.
Also when was the last time 200,000 people died in plane crashes in 7 months? Or car crashes? To your point though if that did occur you can bet your ass i wouldn’t be flying or fucking driving until they figured out wtf was going on.

Chief X_Phackter 09-17-2020 06:53 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
It can be done. If I were to guess, I'd say they'll start allowing a limited fan presence by the Rams game at the latest...

rocnrik 09-17-2020 06:56 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
Follow who’s advice ?? For every so called expert that says one thing I can show you other experts that Say different .. how come nobody has the regular FLU ?? There are more people that are gonna die because of non treatment of cancer and other serious health issues because they could not see a Dr.. so some guy had covid but was well enough to attend football game ??? My bet is over half the people on this forum would test positive ... even the test are suspect ... you do realize that out of the 200,000 thousand that died ..less than 10,000 died from covid only .. the rest of the deaths were other serious health issues that combined with covid resulted in death ... these are facts !! live your life ..

Chico23231 09-17-2020 07:18 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1259139]That is the risk you take if you decide to go to a game. If you want or need to stay home then do so.

The piece was written to spread more fear, which is what the media has been doing for 6 months straight.

If you get on an airplane there's a risk that it can crash. When you get in your car you know there's a risk that someone is texting while driving and can rear end you.[/quote]

Spot on

punch it in 09-17-2020 07:30 PM

Fans at Fed Ex
 
[QUOTE=rocnrik;1259144]Follow who’s advice ?? For every so called expert that says one thing I can show you other experts that Say different .. how come nobody has the regular FLU ?? There are more people that are gonna die because of non treatment of cancer and other serious health issues because they could not see a Dr.. so some guy had covid but was well enough to attend football game ??? My bet is over half the people on this forum would test positive ... even the test are suspect ... you do realize that out of the 200,000 thousand that died ..less than 10,000 died from covid only .. the rest of the deaths were other serious health issues that combined with covid resulted in death ... these are facts !! live your life ..[/QUOTE]



Im trying to live my life, and the sooner everyone follows the “doctors” and “scientists “ advice the sooner I can do that. FACT is Covid has killed 200,000 people- regardless of underlying conditions - FACT is those people wouldn’t have died if not for covid. Does it make it better that they had an underlying issue and covid took it over the top? FACT is it is killing more people and infecting more people in this country than almost any other. How many people have you heard that survived it saying “it is no fuckin joke” that we’re talking about this like it is the flu BEFORE they got it?
Why doesn’t anyone have the regular flu? Because we are barely out of August. Lol. FACT is It hasn’t been flu season since the pandemic started. Get back to me in a few weeks on that one.

mooby 09-17-2020 07:33 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1259139]That is the risk you take if you decide to go to a game. [B]If you want or need to stay home then do so.
[/B]
The piece was written to spread more fear, which is what the media has been doing for 6 months straight.

If you get on an airplane there's a risk that it can crash. When you get in your car you know there's a risk that someone is texting while driving and can rear end you.[/quote]

We've been saying that for 8 months and yet the numbers haven't exactly gone down to manageable levels. If only there was some sort of trusted expert we could all turn to for advice on how to stop the spread.

FYI, driving a car is more risky than flying in an airplane. Anyways, I really wouldn't have a problem with limited capacity at sporting events if we could all just agree the bare fucking minimum you can do is wear a mask in public places. But this country is so goddamn lazy and literally everything has to be politicized so goddamn much we can't even agree on that.

mooby 09-17-2020 07:35 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[quote=punch it in;1259147]Im trying to live my life, and the sooner everyone follows the “doctors” and “scientists “ advice the sooner I can do that. FACT is Covid has killed 200,000 people- regardless of underlying conditions - FACT is those people wouldn’t have died if not for covid. Does it make it better that they had an underlying issue and covid took it over the top? FACT is it is killing more people and infecting more people in this country than almost any other. How many people have you heard that survived it saying “it is no fuckin joke” that we’re talking about this like it is the flu BEFORE they got it?
Why doesn’t anyone have the regular flu? Because we are barely out of August. Lol. FACT is It hasn’t been flu season since the pandemic started. Get back to me in a few weeks on that one.[/quote]

Didn't you hear Punch? Those people with underlying issues were bound to die anyways, fuck 'em. We're in the new age, it's every man for himself. Let the weak die.

punch it in 09-17-2020 08:50 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[QUOTE=mooby;1259149]Didn't you hear Punch? Those people with underlying issues were bound to die anyways, fuck 'em. We're in the new age, it's every man for himself. Let the weak die.[/QUOTE]



Thanks for reminding me, I don’t know wtf I was thinking.

rocnrik 09-17-2020 09:10 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
As usual a few of you twist it all around ... nobody said a damn thing about not giving a crap about others .. what I said was the facts and listed them .. I responded to the statement that 200,000 have died from covid ... that’s not actually true( there were other health issues involved)so how is telling the truth not caring about others ? I wear a damn mask .. for what good it does .. I watched Coaches wear a mask the whole game then take it off and go hug players at end of game ??? A mask does nothing if you don’t wash your hands like after touching anything ... how about the people who wear mask in there car by themselves ...this chat site should be renamed the punch and mooby show 😀 30,000 post between them and counting .....

punch it in 09-17-2020 09:31 PM

Fans at Fed Ex
 
Thanks for noticing
I believe this is 30,001 lol.

The point Mooby was trying to make was that regardless of why COVID killed them - due to an underlying issue or not - shouldn’t matter? The “weak” people are expendable is how your post sounded. Did anyone say you don’t give a shit about others. Not even close. I personally believe you are not considering the consequences of us just living our lives and getting used to the virus or however you put it exactly. Thats how it spreads. Thats how people with underlying conditions that would otherwise still be with us - die.

Giantone 09-17-2020 09:44 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[quote=Chico23231;1259127]Fans belong in the stands period. It can be done correctly[/quote]

Coming from the same guy who wants to throw kids and teachers under the bus, .......that's pretty funny.

sdskinsfan2001 09-17-2020 09:57 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
Go no fans or full fans. These halfway things are just to save face. I've watched pretty much every Braves game this year and you get used to no fans. Don't even really notice anymore.

punch it in 09-17-2020 10:02 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1259158]Go no fans or full fans. These halfway things are just to save face. I've watched pretty much every Braves game this year and you get used to no fans. Don't even really notice anymore.[/QUOTE]



Hockey looked cool with whatever they had going on in the background, though there is nothing better than playoff hockey crowds. Did miss that. I like the fake noise of baseball and of football. Well its better than no noise. One thing I cannot get used to is the fake giant heads.

CRedskinsRule 09-17-2020 10:10 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[QUOTE=punch it in;1259147]Im trying to live my life, and the sooner everyone follows the “doctors” and “scientists “ advice the sooner I can do that. FACT is Covid has killed 200,000 people- regardless of underlying conditions - FACT is those people wouldn’t have died if not for covid. Does it make it better that they had an underlying issue and covid took it over the top? FACT is it is killing more people and infecting more people in this country than almost any other. How many people have you heard that survived it saying “it is no fuckin joke” that we’re talking about this like it is the flu BEFORE they got it?
Why doesn’t anyone have the regular flu? Because we are barely out of August. Lol. FACT is It hasn’t been flu season since the pandemic started. Get back to me in a few weeks on that one.[/QUOTE]

A portion of those 200,000 would have died from their conditions and likely a good percentage, but who can know since its all fluid. At 53 and somewhat overweight I got Covid. And guess what - I survived, didnt ever need to go to the hospital, and was feeling truly under the weather for 2 days. I was tired for about a week. That's it.

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rocnrik 09-17-2020 10:11 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
I actually maybe crazy .. but not having the fans in the stand last Sunday helped Washington!! Can you imagine the crowd down 17 ?? Although it could have been a eagles advantage based on last years home games ...

sdskinsfan2001 09-17-2020 10:12 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[quote=punch it in;1259159]Hockey looked cool with whatever they had going on in the background, though there is nothing better than playoff hockey crowds. Did miss that. I like the fake noise of baseball and of football. Well its better than no noise. One thing I cannot get used to is the fake giant heads.[/quote]

Crowds are definitely preferred. But they are not a requirement for the game to be played. So half assing it is pointless to me.

It's safe at 25K but at 25,001 people will die? That math doesn't check out.

Don't allow crowds at all or fill it up and let people who want to go take their chances. Genuinely fine with either option. No fans is the easier route.

CRedskinsRule 09-17-2020 10:15 PM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[QUOTE=rocnrik;1259161]I actually maybe crazy .. but not having the fans in the stand last Sunday helped Washington!! Can you imagine the crowd down 17 ?? Although it could have been a eagles advantage based on last years home games ...[/QUOTE]I felt this way for this year. The stands would be half or more fans of our opponents. Take this year to get some excitement in the fanbase, rebrand over the summer then fill the stadium next year.

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punch it in 09-18-2020 12:22 AM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1259160]A portion of those 200,000 would have died from their conditions and likely a good percentage, but who can know since its all fluid. At 53 and somewhat overweight I got Covid. And guess what - I survived, didnt ever need to go to the hospital, and was feeling truly under the weather for 2 days. I was tired for about a week. That's it.

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It affects everyone different. Luckily you were not one that it affected badly. Glad you are ok. Really glad.
That being said you have absolutely no idea if any of them would have died without getting it.

punch it in 09-18-2020 12:26 AM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[QUOTE=rocnrik;1259161]I actually maybe crazy .. but not having the fans in the stand last Sunday helped Washington!! Can you imagine the crowd down 17 ?? Although it could have been a eagles advantage based on last years home games ...[/QUOTE]



I firmly believe it helped them too. No doubt there would have been some B & G mixed in to a sea of green if it was filled with fans. Our home crowd is just the other teams away crowd. At least now they can imagine the seats full of their own fans.

sdskinsfan2001 09-18-2020 12:42 AM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[quote=punch it in;1259169]It affects everyone different. Luckily you were not one that it affected badly. Glad you are ok. Really glad.
That being said you have absolutely no idea if any of them would have died without getting it.[/quote]

And you have absolutely no idea they wouldn't have. That's the juxtaposition here. No one knows. This has never been seen before in our lifetimes.

That's why we all (myself as much or more than anyone) need to be more open to opinions that aren't in line with our own.

This whole if you don't think like X, you're an idiot helps nothing.

Note - I replied to your post but am not accusing you of doing this. Was more of a general statement that fit in line with your post.

calia 09-18-2020 03:17 AM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[QUOTE=punch it in;1259142]Come on man. Nobody is trying to scare anyone. 200,000 deaths should be scary regardless of who writes what about it. Our impatience and paranoia about this being some sort of fear tactic is why the virus is running rampant in this country unlike any other. Sometimes there is just a shitty situation. This is a terribly shitty situation. The longer we fight the protocol the longer it will go on. That is the ironic thing. It isn’t the person going to the game that I fear for, because like you said it is their choice. But after said event those 25,000 people go back into their communities. The rest of those people who chose not to go are now at risk that it could have been a super spreader event. It isn’t conspiracy or fear tactic it is just science. We keep fighting what the doctors and scientists tell us and we will keep dying at a higher rate than the rest of the world. If we all Follow their advice we will be done with this shit sooner, but instead we are fighting it.
Also when was the last time 200,000 people died in plane crashes in 7 months? Or car crashes? To your point though if that did occur you can bet your ass i wouldn’t be flying or fucking driving until they figured out wtf was going on.[/QUOTE]


This. If folks want to make this choice, then also choose not to get treated if you test positive. Transmission is preventable. Unless we keep acting stupidly.


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calia 09-18-2020 03:19 AM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[QUOTE=punch it in;1259147]Im trying to live my life, and the sooner everyone follows the “doctors” and “scientists “ advice the sooner I can do that. FACT is Covid has killed 200,000 people- regardless of underlying conditions - FACT is those people wouldn’t have died if not for covid. Does it make it better that they had an underlying issue and covid took it over the top? FACT is it is killing more people and infecting more people in this country than almost any other. How many people have you heard that survived it saying “it is no fuckin joke” that we’re talking about this like it is the flu BEFORE they got it?
Why doesn’t anyone have the regular flu? Because we are barely out of August. Lol. FACT is It hasn’t been flu season since the pandemic started. Get back to me in a few weeks on that one.[/QUOTE]


Fact - when the flu season hit we are going to be in a world of hurt. And it is possible to get flu and COVID.


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calia 09-18-2020 03:22 AM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[QUOTE=mooby;1259148]We've been saying that for 8 months and yet the numbers haven't exactly gone down to manageable levels. If only there was some sort of trusted expert we could all turn to for advice on how to stop the spread.

FYI, driving a car is more risky than flying in an airplane. Anyways, I really wouldn't have a problem with limited capacity at sporting events if we could all just agree the bare fucking minimum you can do is wear a mask in public places. But this country is so goddamn lazy and literally everything has to be politicized so goddamn much we can't even agree on that.[/QUOTE]


Because people haven’t followed the advice. In countries that took sheltering in place, social distancing, and masking wearing more seriously than we have, the numbers speak for themselves. They’ve been able to get back to normal or close to it while we languish. The numbers aren’t down to manageable levels because people aren’t exercising good judgment.


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sdskinsfan2001 09-18-2020 04:05 AM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[quote=calia;1259176]Because people haven’t followed the advice. In countries that took sheltering in place, social distancing, and masking wearing more seriously than we have, the numbers speak for themselves. They’ve been able to get back to normal or close to it while we languish. The numbers aren’t down to manageable levels because people aren’t exercising good judgment.

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A lot of people can and should be exhausted by government telling them what they are allowed or not allowed to do, while they get their guaranteed checks. Why we should all love government mandates perplexes me because this country was founded on telling the ruling class to go fuck themselves. Nowadays it seems like we worship government and fight freedom. All hail government!!

punch it in 09-18-2020 06:11 AM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1259177]A lot of people can and should be exhausted by government telling them what they are allowed or not allowed to do, while they get their guaranteed checks. Why we should all love government mandates perplexes me because this country was founded on telling the ruling class to go fuck themselves. Nowadays it seems like we worship government and fight freedom. All hail government!![/QUOTE]



Sorry SD cant let the inmates run the asylum. You might wind up with gun toting, racist, wanna be cops blowing people away in the streets.....
This country was founded over two hundred years ago. Things are a tad bit different today.....but let’s not act like we live in Russia or China. If Trump gets re elected we can probably act that way......

Giantone 09-18-2020 06:33 AM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[quote=punch it in;1259179]sorry sd cant let the inmates run the asylum. You might wind up with gun toting, racist, wanna be cops blowing people away in the streets.....
This country was founded over two hundred years ago. Things are a tad bit different today.....but let’s not act like we live in russia or china. If trump gets re elected we can probably act that way......[/quote]

amen! +1 !

irish 09-18-2020 06:36 AM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1259160]A portion of those 200,000 would have died from their conditions and likely a good percentage, but who can know since its all fluid. At 53 and somewhat overweight I got Covid. And guess what - I survived, didnt ever need to go to the hospital, and was feeling truly under the weather for 2 days. I was tired for about a week. That's it.

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I'm glad you got over it quickly. The people I know who had in were in their 30s, two of that group are marathon runners, they still have breathing and heart rhythm issues. One doesn't need underlying conditions to get this.

skinsfan69 09-18-2020 08:06 AM

Re: Fans at Fed Ex
 
[quote=rocnrik;1259144]Follow who’s advice ?? For every so called expert that says one thing I can show you other experts that Say different .. how come nobody has the regular FLU ?? There are more people that are gonna die because of non treatment of cancer and other serious health issues because they could not see a Dr.. so some guy had covid but was well enough to attend football game ??? My bet is over half the people on this forum would test positive ... even the test are suspect ... you do realize that out of the 200,000 thousand that died ..less than 10,000 died from covid only[B][/B] .. the rest of the deaths were other serious health issues that combined with covid resulted in death ... these are facts !! live your life ..[/quote]

you took the words right out of my mouth.


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