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sdskinsfan2001 04-27-2019 09:22 PM

Post Draft Thoughts
 
Favorite pick? Biggest steal? Least favorite pick? Any other thoughts?

Sweat/Harmon/Love

Love was a great player. But thought there were other picks. I really liked this draft, so this pick was really the only one I question.

Can't believe we got Harmon that late.

I hope we can bring in some UDFAs to compete at TE. Still want that surefire blocker.

Overall, I give this draft an A.

30gut 04-27-2019 09:23 PM

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Great draft all the way around.

McLaurin and Harmon could re-vamp the WR corps

MTK 04-27-2019 09:59 PM

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I honestly couldn’t be happier with a draft. Let’s see how it works out on the field of course but as of right now I think they did an outstanding job.


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sdskinsfan2001 04-27-2019 09:59 PM

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[IMG]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQIe2uI6kLIMKxoIsqAC8NXeMi07dBs3n1EZbnibteZCGy9zsy9[/IMG]

[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-2019-nfl-draft-grades-for-all-32-teams[/url]

SFREDSKIN 04-27-2019 10:19 PM

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FANTASTIC DRAFT!! Many steals, really like Martin, Moreland since no one knows much about them, especially Martin. Love the Love pick.

skinsfaninok 04-27-2019 10:19 PM

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Our PFF grades

Skins had a great draft on paper anyway [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190428/622045d965a5a6c1baa758863e5d3bf9.jpg[/IMG][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190428/9c19532abcbd368829203bf352a9a32f.jpg[/IMG]

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skinsfan69 04-27-2019 10:20 PM

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Outstanding on paper. A solid A. Hopefully a year from now it's still an A. Obviously the owners pick will have a huge impact on the success of this draft.

DYoungJelly 04-27-2019 10:29 PM

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FWIW

[url]https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status/1122288767027511296?s=20[/url]

I'm guessing Apke wasn't Smith's pick last year.

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Kope 04-27-2019 10:51 PM

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Solid A

Best draft top to bottom I can remember for sure. Even the Martin pick when you look deeper seems solid. Love the character, production, and speed.

Hope it stays this way.

SkinzWin 04-27-2019 11:04 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1222868][IMG]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQIe2uI6kLIMKxoIsqAC8NXeMi07dBs3n1EZbnibteZCGy9zsy9[/IMG]

[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-2019-nfl-draft-grades-for-all-32-teams[/url][/quote]

We were 1 of only 6 teams rated as having an excellent draft by PFF!

GridIron26 04-27-2019 11:34 PM

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I think Redskins did well in the draft although I still have my reserves. I think I have been burned too many times to a point where I'm going to wait and see..

I wasn't sure of Haskins but the more I watch his films and the more I like him. We really need to keep Oline intact, Haskins play really well when Oline gives him time to throw. The fact that we are likely going to have strong run game, it definitely will allow Haskins to come along well. The best scenario - Haskins becomes starter and helps Gruden save his job. Sweats looks like a great pick, he was widely considered as a top 10 player so giving up two 2nd round picks for a top 10 player is pretty good deal I think.

I think Perine is good as gone, unless we keep Love on PUP until middle of season or put him on IR if he still is not ready to play. This would give Love plenty of time to recover and learn. Perhaps a replacement for Thompson since I think this season is last year of his contract? I really like Wes Martin, granted I saw only 8 mins of his highlights but it's obvious he has pretty strong frame and anchors really well. I'm curious to see how well he pulls.

Kelvin Harmon looks like a gem although I wonder if it's just a clone of Doctson? Can jump and catch ball well but struggle to get separation... Our WR corp is kinda interesting - McLaurin, Harmon, Cam Sims, Qinn, and Richardson. And of course, our beloved Doctson.

los panda 04-28-2019 01:56 AM

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I did some more reading on our Alabama center, loved that one of my draft guides had him as the #1 center with a 2nd rd grade. Saying basically he's a lock to be a starter, could be a very good one, does everything very well but nothing special.

I'll take happily take that. 2 things that stood out to me were that they said he has gone full seasons without committing a single penalty, and that he was a 4 year starter at Alabama. Pretty impressive stuff, plus being one of 4 team captains for Alabama.

Solid A draft. Can't wait for summer!!! HTTR!

HTTR 04-28-2019 02:05 AM

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[QUOTE=Kope;1222879]Solid A



Love the character, production, and speed.
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This says it perfectly. There seem to be no knuckleheads in the group, and the picks just make sense as a whole. Some of these players won’t pan out, of course, but the FO did its job. Kyle Smith looks like the real deal.

KI Skins Fan 04-28-2019 07:47 AM

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[quote=los panda;1222884]I did some more reading on our Alabama center, loved that one of my draft guides had him as the #1 center with a 2nd rd grade. Saying basically he's a lock to be a starter, could be a very good one, does everything very well but nothing special.

I'll take happily take that. 2 things that stood out to me were that they said [B]he has gone full seasons without committing a single penalty[/B], and that he was a 4 year starter at Alabama. Pretty impressive stuff, plus being one of 4 team captains for Alabama.

Solid A draft. Can't wait for summer!!! HTTR![/quote]

Now that bothers me. Not even one finger poke in the eye? No biting in pileups? A tripping call? Nothing?! Conrad Dobler would be ashamed of him.

Buffalo Bob 04-28-2019 07:58 AM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1222876]FWIW

[url]https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status/1122288767027511296?s=20[/url]

I'm guessing Apke wasn't Smith's pick last year.

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I was excited about the 40 times of our new edge rusher and WR, then you have to bring up Apke and spoil it.

Chico23231 04-28-2019 08:42 AM

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What I loved:

1.First 2 picks went towards the most important/impactful positions in the game. 5 year contracts with low cap numbers

2. What made me happier, we threw 2 picks towards 2 area on the team which have been a problem for a couple years, WR and Interior Oline. 4 good prospects...not just nobodies...but 4 solid names. That’s got me satisfied overall with the draft.

3. Special teams and value not forgotten. Kid from UNC and WR from OSU have special teams impact within their value.

Where we missed.

1. Don’t like the Bryce Love pick. Don’t like the Injury nor the fact we wasn’t having a good year...I think we coulda gotten a better RB prospect. But in the 4th, it’s not a major deal and it wasn’t as bad as a Apke pick the year before.

2. You can’t get everything you need in the draft, but Free Safety and TE there were options but that just means we stuck to our board and didn’t reach which should be applauded. While we have some developing depth at TE, I’m not as worried....but at free safety I’m extremely concerned. We should sign someone there with the intention they could get a lot of work or start.

Overall A for me

mooby 04-28-2019 09:22 AM

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This team really made it hard for me to be unhappy with them after this draft. Initially I was down on the Haskins pick as the immobility seems to be a concern, but at the end of the day it's 50/50 odds as to whether it'll work out. And you gotta love the Sweat pick assuming the heart defect issues are a misdiagnosis. And one of my complaints about the Haskins pick was the fact we have a terrible WR corp here, so what do they do? Pick up 2 good guys (really like the McLaurin pick as the humility is something you gotta love in a player) and Harmon seems like a good candidate to develop into a possession guy, which we also need. Idk much about the o-line picks but having competition at o-line is never a bad thing, also everyone seems to be high on the Bama kid because he doesn't commit penalties (which is never a bad thing). The late round picks always seem to be hit or miss so I won't be surprised if they don't pan out, and if they do pan out then great. But overall it seems there's a lot to like about this class, and if we get 4-5 solid players out of it I'll be happy. If this class becomes a class to remember, it will go a long way in making Kyle Smith look great.

sdskinsfan2001 04-28-2019 11:24 AM

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Wes Martin looks like Scherff Lite. Big and nasty, with less athleticism. But considering Scherff is a bad ass and one of if not the best guards in the league, you aren't going to find someone that good.

Martin is a day 1 starter at LG imo.

Learning to remember how to spell the Alabama guys name should be a hoot. He will be the backup center and an option to backup either guard spot. Will be interesting to see him and Flowers battle for 1st guy up at either G spot if needed. I would try to get Flowers some work at right tackle so he can backup the guard spots and Moses.

I would have Christian work pretty much exclusively at LT. As he needs the work and Trent has got banged up the last couple seasons. Good chance Christian starts some games. He needs to be ready.

sevier2 04-28-2019 12:05 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1222891]What I loved:

1.First 2 picks went towards the most important/impactful positions in the game. 5 year contracts with low cap numbers

2. What made me happier, we threw 2 picks towards 2 area on the team which have been a problem for a couple years, WR and Interior Oline. 4 good prospects...not just nobodies...but 4 solid names. That’s got me satisfied overall with the draft.

3. Special teams and value not forgotten. Kid from UNC and WR from OSU have special teams impact within their value.

Where we missed.

1. Don’t like the Bryce Love pick. Don’t like the Injury nor the fact we wasn’t having a good year...I think we coulda gotten a better RB prospect. But in the 4th, it’s not a major deal and it wasn’t as bad as a Apke pick the year before.

2. You can’t get everything you need in the draft, but Free Safety and TE there were options but that just means we stuck to our board and didn’t reach which should be applauded. While we have some developing depth at TE, I’m not as worried....but at free safety I’m extremely concerned. We should sign someone there with the intention they could get a lot of work or start.

Overall A for me[/quote]

Have to agree with all of this here. The Love pick was the only one I was partially dissatisfied with.

Although, with C. Thompson's injury past and age catching up, this could turn out to be a valuable pick in a year or so.

5superbowls3wins 04-28-2019 12:18 PM

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I liked every pic except Love. I hoped they would have taken Samia (G) or Ridley (WR)

We’re STACKED at RB and could use more G and WR help.

Why take him when we have Peterson, Guice, CT, and Perine????


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calia 04-28-2019 12:25 PM

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1222910]I liked every pic except Love. I hoped they would have taken Samia (G) or Ridley (WR)

We’re STACKED at RB and could use more G and WR help.

Why take him when we have Peterson, Guice, CT, and Perine????


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Don't get me wrong, I really like Love (seen him play out here a few times, and he can take over games). But with Sumia available and given our needs, that would have been my preference. I also wonder whether Love might have been there at the next pick (we'll never know, of course).

But overall, I am pretty pleased with the draft. We won't know if it was good for a couple of years, really, but these decisions are surely defensible based on the information we now know. A few teams in our division -- NYG and DAL -- can't really say that, IMHO.

SFREDSKIN 04-28-2019 12:27 PM

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The Love pick was a great pick, he’ll come back strong after rehab even if it’s next year, AP is a year older and on the downside. Martin will probably win the LG position (watch the youtube video and decide for yourself) the Bama center is a solid player. Overall, a fantastic draft!

skinsnut 04-28-2019 01:21 PM

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Great draft overall with one major miscue.
Skins passed up a 5 year starter at left guard.
It was a no brainier to pick Samia, (or Michael Jordan)
It was a top 3 draft need. I understand if they stuck to the board but bypassing this and crossing your fingers on a possible backup future rb was a mistake. To me the 2 4th rounders is the difference between a B and an A in my mind.

PS. If we are counting on either of our 2 online picks to start, we are still in a bit trouble. Depth? Sure. Start immediately? Iffy and not recommended. Samia and Michael Jordan were rated far superior. Not to mention we could have gotten both Samia and the bama free safety in the 4th. Both would be considered likely/possible starters immediately and considered steals AND major needs

I was just hoping for a 3rd round (which turned into 2 4th round) starters I find it doubtful that either of our 4ths start based on who they picked. We chose potential over a sure thing guard and a potential starting safety. It's a shame we passed on such a gift

los panda 04-28-2019 01:47 PM

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[quote=skinsnut;1222916]Great draft overall with one major miscue.
Skins passed up a 5 year starter at left guard.
It was a no brainier to pick Samia, (or Michael Jordan)
It was a top 3 draft need. I understand if they stuck to the board but bypassing this and crossing your fingers on a possible backup future rb was a mistake. To me the 2 4th rounders is the difference between a B and an A in my mind.

PS. If we are counting on either of our 2 online picks to start, we are still in a bit trouble. Depth? Sure. Start immediately? Iffy and not recommended. Samia and Michael Jordan were rated far superior. Not to mention we could have gotten both Samia and the bama free safety in the 4th. Both would be considered likely/possible starters immediately and considered steals AND major needs

I was just hoping for a 3rd round (which turned into 2 4th round) starters I find it doubtful that either of our 4ths start based on who they picked. We chose potential over a sure thing guard and a potential starting safety. It's a shame we passed on such a gift[/quote]

Pierschbacher could start at LG immediately.

Irrefutable 04-28-2019 02:22 PM

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[quote=los panda;1222917]Pierschbacher could start at LG immediately.[/quote]

or RG in 2020.... there is no guarantee Scherff will be signed

punch it in 04-28-2019 02:26 PM

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Great draft. Would have liked to seen them take Jordan from OSU instead of Martin from IU, and also Gerald Willis in the 7th would have been superb. Anyway a ton left to be determined on the field and given our more than recent track record I really cannot get too excited until it translates to W’s (like more than 6-8 a year).

punch it in 04-28-2019 02:29 PM

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1222910]I liked every pic except Love. I hoped they would have taken Samia (G) or Ridley (WR)

We’re STACKED at RB and could use more G and WR help.

Why take him when we have Peterson, Guice, CT, and Perine????


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Peterson is on his very last leg, CT is always hurt and was not productive even when healthy last year, Guice has never taken a snap, and Perine is meh. Not the worst pick in the world even though he probably would have been there later.

skinsfan69 04-28-2019 02:34 PM

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I liked the Love pick because AP will only be here one more year. Guice is coming off an injury. CT is always hurt and obviously they think little of Perine. Love could be your #2 back in a year.

sdskinsfan2001 04-28-2019 02:35 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1222920]Peterson is on his very last leg, CT is always hurt and was not productive even when healthy last year, Guice has never taken a snap, and Perine is meh. Not the worst pick in the world even though he probably would have been there later.[/quote]

That's why this draft was so good, our "worst" pick is really not a bad pick and even liked by half of us. We crushed this draft.

los panda 04-28-2019 03:43 PM

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If Peterson stays healthy, we are golden at RB. That's not counting on anything from Guice or Love, while expecting Thompson to miss a handful of games.

Chico23231 04-28-2019 03:43 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1222921]I liked the Love pick because AP will only be here one more year. Guice is coming off an injury. CT is always hurt and obviously they think little of Perine. Love could be your #2 back in a year.[/quote]

Love is injured now and has ankle injuries in the past. So shit with our injuries with RB hell fit in.

skinsfan69 04-28-2019 04:21 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1222925]Love is injured now and has ankle injuries in the past. So shit with our injuries with RB hell fit in.[/quote]

Yeah he had some issues last year but hopefully he can get past it. He was literally the best back in the country in 2017.

skinsfan69 04-28-2019 04:24 PM

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I also hope this kid from NC Holcolm (sp?) can come in and start over Mason Foster right away. Apparently he ran a 4.45 at the combine, is a sideline to sideline tackling machine. Most importantly he can run, which is something Mason Foster simply can not do.

NYCskinfan82 04-28-2019 04:24 PM

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Truly a great draft. We need players to step up now.

SFREDSKIN 04-28-2019 04:52 PM

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Need I say more, we had the best draft of any team, check this link:
[url]https://twitter.com/jpfinlaynbcs/status/1122581396210507776?s=21[/url]

DYoungJelly 04-28-2019 04:57 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1222926]Yeah he had some issues last year but hopefully he can get past it. He was literally the best back in the country in 2017.[/QUOTE]The Love pick was the Smith and the scouts swinging for home run.

Elite potential and only risking a 4th. Think 2020, not 2019.

Great pick.

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5superbowls3wins 04-28-2019 05:18 PM

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SFREDSKIN 04-28-2019 05:22 PM

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Been saying since last year that Kyle ran the draft, Bruce and Doug get the credit. Last years draft was great, this year it was the best of any team. Kyle is our new Bobby Beathard, pay his ass and promote him.

skinsfan69 04-28-2019 05:45 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1222934]Been saying since last year that Kyle ran the draft, Bruce and Doug get the credit. Last years draft was great, this year it was the best of any team. Kyle is our new Bobby Beathard, pay his ass and promote him.[/quote]

Last years draft was great? Really? Our 3rd and 4th rounders got hurt and did absolutely nothing. Guice got hurt so the jury is still out on him. Settle and Payne were very solid picks.. Jury is still out on Hamilton and Stroman. Actually Stroman was garbage for the most part. The 2018 class is a incomplete. Oh yeah.. Quinn.. hurt. If you ask me so far that draft class are studs in the cold tub.

SFREDSKIN 04-28-2019 05:52 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1222935]Last years draft was great? Really? Our 3rd and 4th rounders got hurt and did absolutely nothing. Guice got hurt so the jury is still out on him. Settle and Payne were very solid picks.. Jury is still out on Hamilton and Stroman. Actually Stroman was garbage for the most part. The 2018 class is a incomplete. Oh yeah.. Quinn.. hurt. If you ask me so far that draft class are studs in the cold tub.[/quote]

So you think a talent evaluator can predict injuries? They will contribute this year, so will the new guys. I say Martin wins the LG starting job, McLaurin, Sweat impress.


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