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skinsfaninok 07-13-2021 10:59 AM

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 
[quote=MTK;1285826]Same here. I already enjoy kicking back on Sundays and watching redzone all day. Wouldn't really hurt me to not have a team.[/quote]

The easy choice for me would be the Saints or Bills since I've lived in both markets and both are not rivals of WSH but I just can't picture myself in another teams colors.. Its weird

skinsfaninok 07-13-2021 11:00 AM

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 
[url]https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/31051844/washington-football-team-line-controversy-comebacks-change[/url]

Today marks a full year BTW

CRedskinsRule 07-13-2021 11:01 AM

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 
Wright said there will be connectivity with the past. Certainly keeping the colors is part of it. Honestly Washington Wolves just seems so obvious, despite the resistance among some here. One article made a point about how Redwolves were native to the MidAtlantic for a long time, and how choosing Redwolves could tie to a ton of humanitarian causes. I don't see that part as a major rationale, but Washington Wolves with a tie in to the ferocity and pack nature would lead to a rebuild around the defense which will be the strength of the team for the next few years.

I will be shocked if it isn't some form of wolves.

Pervis_Griffith 07-13-2021 11:09 AM

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 
There's a loud local group of Skins' fans here in Louisville. I haven't attended a game watch with them for a while, but I doubt that much has changed with the loyalties of those in the group.

If you're gonna stick with them through the crap they've been the last couple of decades, why change now, when we're on the verge of truly being formidable?

I'd submit, it's easier to stick with your team in the age of fantasy football. While they may suck, you can get your winning-fix through your FF team.



As a city without a team, but surrounded by NFL markets, you can pretty much find local bars hosting a variety of NFL team fan bases here in Louisville.

The Bengals is probably the "local" team most rooted for, although the Colts have tried to claim Louisville as part of their territory. The Titans are about the same distance away to the south, but don't have much traction here.

For the odd fan bases, we have a size able Green Bay Packers fan base here (Paul Hornung's influence started that), as well as Cleveland Browns, Chicago Bears, and Minnesota Vikings (no idea why). And probably like a lot of cities, we have a very annoying Steelers contingent here ... and of course, those bastard Cowboys.

skinsfaninok 07-13-2021 11:12 AM

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1285830]Wright said there will be connectivity with the past. Certainly keeping the colors is part of it. Honestly Washington Wolves just seems so obvious, despite the resistance among some here. One article made a point about how Redwolves were native to the MidAtlantic for a long time, and how choosing Redwolves could tie to a ton of humanitarian causes. I don't see that part as a major rationale, but Washington Wolves with a tie in to the ferocity and pack nature would lead to a rebuild around the defense which will be the strength of the team for the next few years.

I will be shocked if it isn't some form of wolves.[/quote]

They can keep the W and add a Wolf head to it and yeah kinda corny but it would grow on us.

Giantone 07-13-2021 11:24 AM

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1285830]Wright said there will be connectivity with the past. Certainly keeping the colors is part of it. Honestly Washington Wolves just seems so obvious, despite the resistance among some here. One article made a point about how Redwolves were native to the MidAtlantic for a long time, and how choosing Redwolves could tie to a ton of humanitarian causes. I don't see that part as a major rationale, but Washington Wolves with a tie in to the ferocity and pack nature would lead to a rebuild around the defense which will be the strength of the team for the next few years.

I will be shocked if it isn't some form of wolves.[/quote]

Does anyone think there is a chance of the "Washington Senators"?

MTK 07-13-2021 11:25 AM

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1285830]Wright said there will be connectivity with the past. Certainly keeping the colors is part of it. Honestly Washington Wolves just seems so obvious, despite the resistance among some here. One article made a point about how Redwolves were native to the MidAtlantic for a long time, and how choosing Redwolves could tie to a ton of humanitarian causes. I don't see that part as a major rationale, but Washington Wolves with a tie in to the ferocity and pack nature would lead to a rebuild around the defense which will be the strength of the team for the next few years.

I will be shocked if it isn't some form of wolves.[/quote]

Maybe it's the obviousness that tells me it won't be the name. Or maybe I'm just tired of the people that hit you over the head with it all the time online like on Twitter. Either way I'm fine with it as long as it's well executed. Honestly some of the fan made logos are super cringe and look like some XFL shit.

irish 07-13-2021 11:31 AM

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 
[quote=Giantone;1285833]Does anyone think there is a chance of the "Washington Senators"?[/quote]

No. When that name was floated for the baseball team that became the Nationals the city officials were very against it. They said since Washington DC has no voting representation in Congress they have no Senators and that shouldn't be the name. I doubt their stance has changed.

skinsfaninok 07-13-2021 11:33 AM

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 
[quote=Giantone;1285833]Does anyone think there is a chance of the "Washington Senators"?[/quote]

I doubt they would go political, I think the "Veterans" or "Vets" is possible

irish 07-13-2021 11:34 AM

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 
[quote=MTK;1285834]Maybe it's the obviousness that tells me it won't be the name. Or maybe I'm just tired of the people that hit you over the head with it all the time online like on Twitter. Either way I'm fine with it as long as it's well executed. [B]Honestly some of the fan made logos are super cringe and look like some XFL shit.[/B][/quote]

That's why I really want them to keep some form of WFT, WFC, CCFC. I just feel like whatever they pick will feel like XFL or Major League Lacrosse shit and the WFT type name avoids that.

SunnySide 07-13-2021 11:51 AM

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1285836]I doubt they would go political, I think the "Veterans" or "Vets" is possible[/quote]

I could dig that, first name I dont instantly hate.

Schneed made a good point .. new name needs to be trademark protectable. I imagine Washington Veterans would be.

But .. there might be a group or affiliation already called that or closely to it .. im sure something could be massaged if thats the case.

MissouriSkin 07-13-2021 11:53 AM

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1285836]I doubt they would go political, I think the "Veterans" or "Vets" is possible[/quote]

Trust me, there are a ton of people who would complain about that name.

irish 07-13-2021 12:45 PM

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 
[quote=MissouriSkin;1285842]Trust me, there are a ton of people who would complain about that name.[/quote]

Count me as one of them. Plus, I can already he the "stolen valor" complaints.

MissouriSkin 07-13-2021 12:50 PM

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 
[quote=irish;1285843]Count me as one of them. Plus, I can already he the "stolen valor" complaints.[/quote]

And the “glorifying baby killers and war criminals” complaints.

Pervis_Griffith 07-13-2021 06:14 PM

Re: Come up with a new name for the Redskins
 
This guy is winning me over to this ...

Only 25 left in nature? Regardless of whether or not this becomes a name, something needs to be done to protect these pups.

The Duran Duran shit is lame though.


[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/7/12/22574658/why-washingtons-new-name-will-be-the-red-wolves[/url]



Earlier today, the Washington Football Team and team president Jason Wright dropped a video declaring what the team’s future name will not be: the Warriors.


Not surprisingly, after several focus groups - some centered on getting the specific input of Native Americans - the team recognized that any attempt to retain imagery or logos that harkened back to the team’s prior Native American connection were basically radioactive at this point. No feathers, no arrows, no cloaking “Redskins” as “Warriors.”

At this point, I think Wright and the team probably recognize that any attempt at linking the team’s identity to a group of people is probably fraught with sinkholes. It’s doubtful that even a team like the “Vikings” could be advanced in this day and age without running afoul of someone’s objection. No, better just to stick with animals in this climate.

Having watched the promotional video, my suspicion is, that’s exactly what Wright intends to do. There are three separate instances of “Red Wolves” logo imagery that appear in the video. Each one only appears for milliseconds in a short montage, but I’ve included screen shots of each instance below:

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These are presumably either multiple fan submissions, or multiple images from a single submission, that the team received over the course of the past year. There are also “Redspears,” “Arrows,” and “[Red] Hawks” submissions included in the video, but we know the first two are out because of the potential nexus with Native American iconography.

The third, “Red Hawks” is likely too close to “Seahawks,” not to mention the fact that there are already five different teams in the NFL named after birds (Eagles, Falcons, Ravens, Cardinals, and Seahawks). The NFL has four teams named after felines (Bengals, Lions, Jaguars, and Panthers), two named after horses (Colts, Broncos), Bears, Bills, Rams, and Dolphins, but no canines.

In fact, man’s best friend is notably absent from nearly all the top US pro sports leagues. There are only two dog-themed teams in the four major US sports: the Minnesota Timberwolves, created in 1989, and Arizona Coyotes initiated in 1996 (and formerly the Winnipeg Jets).

Was the inclusion of multiple Red Wolves graphics a simple coincidence or oversight? I tend to think not. A short piece like this was likely carefully edited, with close consideration given to the verbiage used as well as the imagery presented. My guess is, it’s a bit of a “Easter egg,” gently snuck in by the team to foreshadow a future announcement.

On his blog, and in an interview with the Post’s Nicki Jhabvala, Wright has laid out what the team - and fans - want from the new name and logo:

“There’s a commonality of who [fans] want us to be as an organization and what they want the name, logo, identity and ethos to represent,” Wright said in the interview. “It’s things like resilience, grit, tradition, a sense of fight, a sense of toughness, a sense of inclusiveness, of unity.”

Almost a year ago, to the day, I asked, “what would Washington’s next name be?” The three names I threw out were Warriors, Redwolves, and Red Tails. About the Redwolves, I wrote:

A recent up-and-comer is the “Washington Redwolves,” which satisfies the desire for an “R” name that will let the tem continue to play with “R” logos throughout its uniforms and designs, as well as keep alive the ever popular “HTTR” acronym. The Red Wolf (Canis rufus) has a historic range that covers the entire DMV, however the species is in peril, and was added to the endangered species list in 1967. It is one of the world’s most endangered wolves, but there’s the possibility that linking it to Washington’s football team could be just the profile builder the apex predator needs in order to make a comeback.

They’re social animals that hunt in packs of 5 to 8 - like our defensive front - and loyal creatures, pair bonding for life.

Even better, there is an opportunity for a regional charity tie-in to the name:

Red Wolf Recovery Coalition Partners - Five different organizations: The Animal Welfare Institute, the Center for Biological Diversity, Defenders of Wildlife, the Endangered Species Coalition, and the Wildlands Network are working, primarily in North Carolina, to help protect and restore wild red wolf populations. Estimates are that approximately 25 individuals remain in the wild at this point.

And, the game day promotional opportunities are nearly endless and amazing:

The Redwolves’ mascot, “Rufus,” could lead game day chants to Duran Duran’s classic “Hungry Like the Wolf,” timed carefully with critical defensive stands. It’s doubtful, however, that wolfpack members Chase Young and Montez Sweat will be satisfied feasting on rabbits and deer:

Against tremendous odds, red wolves have held on, resilient against the encroachments of human civilization creating fragmentation of their habitat. At this point though, they are the ultimate “underdogs,” their last remaining vestiges at risk without a miraculous intervention.

By naming Washington’s football team the “Red Wolves,” Wright and the Snyders immediately shine a light on the endangered animal’s dire situation, and simultaneously position themselves to be instrumental in its eventual recovery by catalyzing charitable efforts to protect habitat and re-introduce wolves into the wild.

What could be more unifying than the imagery of a wolfpack? Contrasted with the solitary predators listed above, canines depend on their cohorts to survive. But those individuals form a cohesive whole, working in concert. And, virtually everyone loves dogs. Dogs are the most popular pets in the US, with over 30% of Maryland households and 35% of Virginia households possessing at least one. In West Virginia, nearly 50% of households have dogs.

Finally, the retention of “Red” in the team name keeps a non-offensive shout back to the team’s past traditions. It is different, but in some respect, the same, bridging this tumultuous time in the team’s history and creating an important continuity.

At this point, I’m putting all my chips in on Red Wolves. How about you?


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