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Redskins247 03-04-2021 04:41 PM

Re: Around the NFL: NFL Offseason
 
Chris Simms turning heads out there ranking Zach Wilson ahead of Lawrence, plus putting Mac Jones AND Kellen Mond ahead of Fields and Lance. He's been right in the last 3 years a lot more than he's been wrong...should be interesting.

skinsfaninok 03-04-2021 06:07 PM

Re: Around the NFL: NFL Offseason
 
[QUOTE=Redskins247;1278536]Chris Simms turning heads out there ranking Zach Wilson ahead of Lawrence, plus putting Mac Jones AND Kellen Mond ahead of Fields and Lance. He's been right in the last 3 years a lot more than he's been wrong...should be interesting.[/QUOTE]


Mond plays a lot like Kaepernick did. Great athlete, nice arm but isn’t the most accurate. He does have upside tho and I wouldn’t mind grabbing him

SkinzWin 03-04-2021 09:15 PM

Re: Around the NFL: NFL Offseason
 
[quote=Redskins247;1278536]Chris Simms turning heads out there ranking Zach Wilson ahead of Lawrence, plus putting Mac Jones AND Kellen Mond ahead of Fields and Lance. He's been right in the last 3 years a lot more than he's been wrong...should be interesting.[/quote]

I’ve been saying recently that I’m higher on Jones than Fields so I’m not surprised. Something just doesn’t sit well with me about Fields. I think he’s going to be with his drafting team for his rookie contract only like a lot of other highly touted QB prospects.

simbosargos75 03-05-2021 09:30 AM

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Disagree on Lawrence.

I'm with him on Fields for sure. I don't trust his arm strength and I really don't think he's that great of an athlete.

I like Mond and Trask more than most. I'd have them 4th and 3rd respectively.

Lawrence
Wilson
Trask
Mond
Jones
Lance
Fields

for me.

skinsfaninok 03-05-2021 09:35 AM

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QB Rankings always crack me up regarding the draft.. Its a crap shoot and for most of these guys it all depends on schemes

AnonEmouse 03-05-2021 10:20 AM

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I must admit, I do find myself wondering why more college's don't run pro style offensive schemes. Surely it would serve them and their players to be more NFL ready than other programmes?

MTK 03-05-2021 10:36 AM

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1278557]I must admit, I do find myself wondering why more college's don't run pro style offensive schemes. Surely it would serve them and their players to be more NFL ready than other programmes?[/quote]

I guess it comes down to why would a college coach care about getting a guy ready for the pros? How does it help him win his conference? Plus in college they just don't have the time with limited practice schedules to install complicated offenses.

Redskins247 03-05-2021 11:35 AM

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[quote=MTK;1278559]I guess it comes down to why would a college coach care about getting a guy ready for the pros? How does it help him win his conference? Plus in college they just don't have the time with limited practice schedules to install complicated offenses.[/quote]

This was actually one of the things against Lawrence by Simms...he said due to Clemson's talent, their offense was very basic...very few reads for the QB...Ohio State the same way. However, didn't seem to hurt Watson.

KI Skins Fan 03-05-2021 11:43 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1278538]Mond plays a lot like Kaepernick did. Great athlete, nice arm but isn’t the most accurate. He does have upside tho and I wouldn’t mind grabbing him[/quote]

It seems to me that accuracy is extremely important for an NFL QB. I don't like the idea of drafting an athletic QB who can't throw straight.

BaltimoreSkins 03-05-2021 01:44 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1278565][B]It seems to me that accuracy is extremely important for an NFL QB. [/B]I don't like the idea of drafting an athletic QB who can't throw straight.[/quote]

You should change your avatar to a bird picture. Going out on a limb?

SkinzWin 03-05-2021 07:43 PM

Re: Around the NFL: NFL Offseason
 
Per NFL Update @MySportsUpdafe

“BREAKING: #Dolphins quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick has retired from the NFL after an amazing 16 year career. Across 8 different teams, the one known as “Fitzmagic” has finished playing at the professional level”

This is why social media sucks. So much fake information out there.

mooby 03-05-2021 09:17 PM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1278384]I would rather him keep playing and see how many more SB wins he can rack up. Put that record out of reach...[/quote]

That record is already out of reach for our lifetimes. Think about the best qb's in the game today that still have enough of a career left to sniff 7, your Mahomes/Allens/Watsons (not including Wilson and Rodgers because they have one title each and I don't see them winning 6 titles in under a decade). Mahomes just lost and the other two haven't even sniffed a title game. It's unrealistic to think any of them could even get closer than 3-4 titles because Brady is the outlier in all of NFL history. What qb has the most rings behind Brady? It's Montana/Bradshaw with 4 each. I could write a short story on this but let's wrap it up. Brady is one title away from doubling up on the next closest guy in the entire 80 year history of the league. He's untouchable.

Chief X_Phackter 03-05-2021 09:37 PM

Re: Around the NFL: NFL Offseason
 
[quote=mooby;1278582]That record is already out of reach for our lifetimes. Think about the best qb's in the game today that still have enough of a career left to sniff 7, your Mahomes/Allens/Watsons (not including Wilson and Rodgers because they have one title each and I don't see them winning 6 titles in under a decade). Mahomes just lost and the other two haven't even sniffed a title game. It's unrealistic to think any of them could even get closer than 3-4 titles because Brady is the outlier in all of NFL history. What qb has the most rings behind Brady? It's Montana/Bradshaw with 4 each. I could write a short story on this but let's wrap it up. Brady is one title away from doubling up on the next closest guy in the entire 80 year history of the league. He's untouchable.[/quote]

History has shown though, that even records that seem impossible to break, get broken eventually. But yeah, probably not this one in our lifetimes.

SkinzWin 03-06-2021 11:56 AM

Re: Around the NFL: NFL Offseason
 
[quote=Scalper;1278590]They don't view themselves as farm leagues for NFL, LOL. They have a new starting QB every 3-4 years. You dumb down the system so it can be quickly and easily learned and mastered rapidly. Without talent over the field, as in NFL, also easier to exploit matchups which spread etc. makes way easier.[/quote]

A lot of NFL teams have new coaches/schemes/QBs every 3-4 years too. I still have never understood why the NFL hasn’t created a developmental team for each NFL franchise in smaller market cities. They would make a fortune in additional revenue.


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