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AnonEmouse 03-06-2021 12:53 PM

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[quote=Scalper;1278590]They don't view themselves as farm leagues for NFL, LOL. They have a new starting QB every 3-4 years. You dumb down the system so it can be quickly and easily learned and mastered rapidly. Without talent over the field, as in NFL, also easier to exploit matchups which spread etc. makes way easier.[/quote]

I'm not talking about an NFL playbook, at least not a full one. I've coached over here and with the amateur level of players, we manage at least some playbooks with a simple progressive read and/or receiver option routes. US college kids are not idiots and if they are they probably won't make it in the Pro's anyway (at least not at QB). I'm sure that they all go to play college ball with 2 main aims 1) get an education 2) get a chance at the NFL. I see no harm in at least making some effort to give them a better chance in the NFL. That's an education/job opportunity too.

calia 03-07-2021 03:02 PM

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1278588]History has shown though, that even records that seem impossible to break, get broken eventually. But yeah, probably not this one in our lifetimes.[/QUOTE]


There are a couple of records in sports that seem hard to imagine being broken. Bradyís is one (Ted Williams batting over .400 in a season might be another). Particularly given how hard it is for NFL teams to stay together, it seems incredibly unlikely.


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Chief X_Phackter 03-07-2021 07:59 PM

Re: Around the NFL: NFL Offseason
 
[quote=calia;1278607]There are a couple of records in sports that seem hard to imagine being broken. Bradyís is one (Ted Williams batting over .400 in a season might be another). Particularly given how hard it is for NFL teams to stay together, it seems incredibly unlikely.


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Agreed. Very unlikely.

GridIron26 03-08-2021 08:34 AM

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Per John Clayton from ESPN, Ryan Ftizpatrick is considering retirement.. If so, that's one QB less in the QB market filled with non-starter QBs and Dak.

MTK 03-08-2021 09:24 AM

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[quote=SkinzWin;1278598]A lot of NFL teams have new coaches/schemes/QBs every 3-4 years too. I still have never understood why the NFL hasnít created a developmental team for each NFL franchise in smaller market cities. [B]They would make a fortune in additional revenue[/B].[/quote]

No, they wouldn't. The bulk of the NFL's revenue comes from TV money. That kind of revenue just doesn't exist at the local level. The NFL would have to financially support a developmental league which would undoubtedly operate at a loss. That's why so many leagues come and go, without that TV money it's almost impossible for them to just break even.

EdmundDorf 03-08-2021 09:32 AM

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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
"A storyline to follow going forward: If the official salary cap number doesnít come today and soon, NFL will have to move back the deadline to franchise tag players from Tuesday. Itís a situation several GMs are bracing for and would further stall business for a bit."

Coincidence that Jerry Jones is on the finance committee that sets the cap number?

skinsfaninok 03-08-2021 09:34 AM

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[quote=MTK;1278634]No, they wouldn't. The bulk of the NFL's revenue comes from TV money. That kind of revenue just doesn't exist at the local level. The NFL would have to financially support a developmental league which would undoubtedly operate at a loss. That's why so many leagues come and go, without that TV money it's almost impossible for them to just break even.[/quote]

It's why the AAF and XFL folded.. I know the Rock thinks he can make it work but he won't... Nobody gives a shit about minor league football. In fact nobody really cares about that in any sport.

When was the last time you watched a Minor League baseball game?

SunnySide 03-08-2021 10:30 AM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1278636]Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
"A storyline to follow going forward: If the official salary cap number doesnít come today and soon, NFL will have to move back the deadline to franchise tag players from Tuesday. Itís a situation several GMs are bracing for and would further stall business for a bit."

Coincidence that Jerry Jones is on the finance committee that sets the cap number?[/quote]

I wish there was more reporting on this.

What is taking so long?
Who makes the decision?
What factors are considered?

Teams have to be cap compliant in 9 days ....

AnonEmouse 03-08-2021 11:29 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1278638]It's why the AAF and XFL folded.. I know the Rock thinks he can make it work but he won't... Nobody gives a shit about minor league football. In fact nobody really cares about that in any sport.

When was the last time you watched a Minor League baseball game?[/quote]

I must admit I always find it unusual how much of a difference there is between the US and other nations when it comes to tier 2+ sport. i.e. Lower league football over here is well supported, almost as well as the Premier League, and has the revenue to support quite good salaries in the 2nd tier (Championship) and at least enough in the next level (League 1) to live off. Lower divisions do tend to have more part time players, and the lowest levels are lucky if they get expenses, but between the top 3 tiers that's 68 teams, with many players in the PL earning similar if not more money to NFL players. They play more games here obviously, so a direct comparison doesn't really make sense. But is it more a case that there are other sports competing for the audience (baseball, basketball, CFB), that a spring league professional set up couldn't; make the revenue? Or is it that the players wouldn't accept more economic salaries for the risk etc.?

CRedskinsRule 03-08-2021 11:35 AM

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[quote=SunnySide;1278642]I wish there was more reporting on this.

What is taking so long?
Who makes the decision?
What factors are considered?

Teams have to be cap compliant in 9 days ....[/quote]

Don't be surprised if the NFL and NFLPA announce a "COVID Exception" to the Salary Cap this year, to be funded by later year adjustments.

The cap won't go down 20%, maybe 10% but I also would not be surprised for the two parties work out a deal to keep the cap neutral this year.

skinsfaninok 03-08-2021 11:53 AM

Re: Around the NFL: NFL Offseason
 
[quote=AnonEmouse;1278655]I must admit I always find it unusual how much of a difference there is between the US and other nations when it comes to tier 2+ sport. i.e. Lower league football over here is well supported, almost as well as the Premier League, and has the revenue to support quite good salaries in the 2nd tier (Championship) and at least enough in the next level (League 1) to live off. Lower divisions do tend to have more part time players, and the lowest levels are lucky if they get expenses, but between the top 3 tiers that's 68 teams, with many players in the PL earning similar if not more money to NFL players. They play more games here obviously, so a direct comparison doesn't really make sense. But is it more a case that there are other sports competing for the audience (baseball, basketball, CFB), that a spring league professional set up couldn't; make the revenue? Or is it that the players wouldn't accept more economic salaries for the risk etc.?[/quote]

The US has a problem that if you are not at the "Top level" of your field then nobody really cares about the rest..

skinsfaninok 03-08-2021 12:05 PM

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BaltimoreSkins 03-08-2021 12:07 PM

Re: Around the NFL: NFL Offseason
 
[quote=AnonEmouse;1278655]I must admit I always find it unusual how much of a difference there is between the US and other nations when it comes to tier 2+ sport. i.e. Lower league football over here is well supported, almost as well as the Premier League, and has the revenue to support quite good salaries in the 2nd tier (Championship) and at least enough in the next level (League 1) to live off. Lower divisions do tend to have more part time players, and the lowest levels are lucky if they get expenses, but between the top 3 tiers that's 68 teams, with many players in the PL earning similar if not more money to NFL players. They play more games here obviously, so a direct comparison doesn't really make sense. But is it more a case that there are other sports competing for the audience (baseball, basketball, CFB), that a spring league professional set up couldn't; make the revenue? Or is it that the players wouldn't accept more economic salaries for the risk etc.?[/quote]

The closest we have to this is baseball and hockey. Without knowing the set up of football over there, most players for baseball and hockey are drafted and signed by the major league club to either a major league or minor league deal. Most minor league baseball and hockey are big draws in attendance but no real tv revenue and only a small radio revenue. Not as many players are making what we would consider a livable salary unless they are a prospect or a role player that bounces back and forth to the major league club.


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