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itvnetop 02-14-2017 12:37 PM

Wizards
 
Anyone follow hoops? These Zards look legitimate. John Wall has to be one of the top 3 pure point guards in the league right now- orchestrator on the offensive end and a pure beast defensively. Insane chemistry with Gortat. Porter has turned into the best 3 pt shooter in the league and Beal has started to look like a young Allan Houston. Markieff Morris may have been Ernie's best trade ever (not a tough bar to clear, let's be honest).

They've got to get some help off the bench, however. Backup point guard and instant offense are two needs right now for the second unit. Hopefully Mahinmi gets into playing shape soon.

Chico23231 02-14-2017 12:44 PM

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Dude, I wanted to make the thread bout a month ago, but nobody every really talks NBA and these ballers in DC.

Otto Porter and Morris have stepped their game up big time...but a healthy Beal is the difference. He is playing out of his mind.

Im thinking bout coming up for the Raptors game in a couple weeks.

itvnetop 02-14-2017 01:13 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1165089]Dude, I wanted to make the thread bout a month ago, but nobody every really talks NBA and these ballers in DC.

Otto Porter and Morris have stepped their game up big time...but a healthy Beal is the difference. He is playing out of his mind.

Im thinking bout coming up for the Raptors game in a couple weeks.[/quote]

Beal is looking so damn money nowadays. I don't remember feeling this confident every game, even when Agent 0 was here. If the Wiz stay in the top 3 seeds, I think they're making it to the ECF.

Chico23231 02-14-2017 01:21 PM

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[quote=itvnetop;1165090]Beal is looking so damn money nowadays. I don't remember feeling this confident every game, even when Agent 0 was here. If the Wiz stay in the top 3 seeds, I think they're making it to the ECF.[/quote]

Scotty Brooks deserves a ton of credit, offensively he opened them up...Gaaaawd that old coach Whitman was effing terrible...so glad they moved on from him. He seemed like such a downer to the team.

Brooks has them having fun...never seemed like the Wiz were having fun, even when they were winning a couple years ago.

mredskins 02-14-2017 01:47 PM

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Go Celtics!

Chico23231 02-14-2017 02:57 PM

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[quote=mredskins;1165093]Go Celtics![/quote]

they play ball like a bunch of ferries

mooby 02-14-2017 03:19 PM

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I will only be cautiously optimistic about the Wizards until Ernie Grunfeld is gone, but I'm happy to see them winning and taking the next step towards being dominant. Sadly thanks to my job my sports time has been cut back drastically (I can only watch games on the weekend) but me and my buddies were just talking about making it to at least one game before the season is over.

Amazing how little love Wall gets from fans and the rest of the NBA though, I can't even tolerate hearing that Kyrie is better and the fact that the fans didn't even vote him in as a starter for the All Star game is laughable. Yet another point that shows how nobody can take that game seriously in any sport (although I will admit I love the skills contests and I think the NBA does a way better job with the event than the NFL does).

itvnetop 02-14-2017 05:01 PM

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[quote=mooby;1165096]I will only be cautiously optimistic about the Wizards until Ernie Grunfeld is gone, but I'm happy to see them winning and taking the next step towards being dominant. Sadly thanks to my job my sports time has been cut back drastically (I can only watch games on the weekend) but me and my buddies were just talking about making it to at least one game before the season is over.

Amazing how little love Wall gets from fans and the rest of the NBA though, I can't even tolerate hearing that Kyrie is better and the fact that the fans didn't even vote him in as a starter for the All Star game is laughable. Yet another point that shows how nobody can take that game seriously in any sport (although I will admit I love the skills contests and I think the NBA does a way better job with the event than the NFL does).[/quote]

DC sports makes me cautiously optimistic all the way around haha. Can the Caps deliver in the playoffs after a dominating regular season?

Looks like Love is out six weeks after minor knee surgery. With the way the Cavs have been playing, it's not out of the question that they'd lose their top seed. Additionally, how much time will they need to get that chemistry back before the playoffs?

mooby 02-14-2017 05:10 PM

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[quote=itvnetop;1165105]DC sports makes me cautiously optimistic all the way around haha. Can the Caps deliver in the playoffs after a dominating regular season?

Looks like Love is out six weeks after minor knee surgery. With the way the Cavs have been playing, it's not out of the question that they'd lose their top seed. Additionally, how much time will they need to get that chemistry back before the playoffs?[/quote]

Yup, exactly. I'm sitting here reading RMNB and checking the post game recaps for the Caps and it seems like deja-vu all over again. They could score more goals than the Oilers with Gretzky and I still wouldn't be impressed until they handle their business in the postseason. But we can save that discussion for the Caps thread, I'm happy to see the Wizards get a little attention here.

As for the Cavs, I wish I had been able to catch that game a couple weeks ago. I was following the gamecenter religiously in the 4th, I can't believe the Wizards let Lebron make that shot at the end. I agree that with Love out for 6 weeks there is a shot they lose the top seed, but will it matter in the end? I hate LBJ but you gotta respect the talent and his ability to dominate a game when it matters. I'm not sure we'll ever see the Wizards win a series against LBJ as long as he's playing.

itvnetop 02-14-2017 05:43 PM

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[quote=mooby;1165108]
As for the Cavs, I wish I had been able to catch that game a couple weeks ago. I was following the gamecenter religiously in the 4th, I can't believe the Wizards let Lebron make that shot at the end. I agree that with Love out for 6 weeks there is a shot they lose the top seed, but will it matter in the end? I hate LBJ but you gotta respect the talent and his ability to dominate a game when it matters. I'm not sure we'll ever see the Wizards win a series against LBJ as long as he's playing.[/quote]

Agreed- it's not smart money to ever bet against Lebron. He took the Warriors to 6 with Matthew Dellavedova as his sidekick two seasons ago! You can tell he's getting a little angsty this season... he's playing way too many minutes as it is. If the Cavs are smart, just rest him and let the seedings fall where they may. They would probably still go to the Finals as an 8 seed with a rested Lebron and Kyrie. But it definitely isn't a shoe-in against this current Wiz iteration.

RedskinMike 02-14-2017 07:04 PM

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[quote=itvnetop;1165088]Anyone follow hoops? These Zards look legitimate. John Wall has to be one of the top 3 pure point guards in the league right now- orchestrator on the offensive end and a pure beast defensively. Insane chemistry with Gortat. Porter has turned into the best 3 pt shooter in the league and Beal has started to look like a young Allan Houston. [COLOR="Red"]Markieff Morris may have been Ernie's best trade ever[/COLOR] (not a tough bar to clear, let's be honest).

They've got to get some help off the bench, however. Backup point guard and instant offense are two needs right now for the second unit. Hopefully Mahinmi gets into playing shape soon.[/quote]

2nd best trade. Lets not forget about Kwame for Caron.

RedskinMike 02-14-2017 07:07 PM

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They look like an Eastern Conference Finals team. I don't know if they can beat the Cavs in a series but I am starting to be a believer. How unreal would a Wiz/Warriors finals be(I know its unlikely).

Chico23231 02-14-2017 07:31 PM

Re: Wizards
 
[quote=itvnetop;1165088]Anyone follow hoops? These Zards look legitimate. John Wall has to be one of the top 3 pure point guards in the league right now- orchestrator on the offensive end and a pure beast defensively. Insane chemistry with Gortat. Porter has turned into the best 3 pt shooter in the league and Beal has started to look like a young Allan Houston. Markieff Morris may have been Ernie's best trade ever (not a tough bar to clear, let's be honest).

They've got to get some help off the bench, however. Backup point guard and instant offense are two needs right now for the second unit. Hopefully Mahinmi gets into playing shape soon.[/quote]

We def need instant offense on the second unit...I think we need a shooter in a combo guard mold in that second unit. We don't have a floor stretcher there. We should be able to find one for a second round pick.

mooby 02-14-2017 08:05 PM

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[quote=RedskinMike;1165115]They look like an Eastern Conference Finals team. I don't know if they can beat the Cavs in a series but I am starting to be a believer. How unreal would a Wiz/Warriors finals be(I know its unlikely).[/quote]

It would be quite unreal but we can still dream. Gotta get past the Cavs first though, which is a tall order by itself.

Buffalo Bob 02-16-2017 09:14 PM

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They have played a disproportionate high amount of home games. They have a nasty mid March to early April road swing that is going to show if they are for real or not heading into the play-offs.

mredskins 02-17-2017 07:58 AM

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[quote=mooby;1165123]It would be quite unreal but we can still dream. Gotta get past the Cavs first though, which is a tall order by itself.[/quote]

And Celtics...

Chico23231 02-17-2017 08:06 AM

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I think we should go ahead and make an offer for Lou Williams...He is the sixth man and scorer we need off the bench. Send them the first or Trey Burke and a second

mooby 02-17-2017 12:12 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1165289]I think we should go ahead and make an offer for Lou Williams...He is the sixth man and scorer we need off the bench. Send them the first or Trey Burke and a second[/quote]

I heard that rumor a couple days ago. I'm in favor. Bench could definitely use some help.

mooby 02-22-2017 05:46 PM

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Losing out on Lou Will sucks but I didn't like the price the Rockets gave up for him so no biggie. Looks like we got Bogdanovic instead.

[url=http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18743061/washington-wizards-get-bojan-bogdanovic-trade-brooklyn-nets]Washington Wizards get Bojan Bogdanovic in trade with Brooklyn Nets[/url]

itvnetop 02-22-2017 07:02 PM

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[quote=mooby;1165601]Losing out on Lou Will sucks but I didn't like the price the Rockets gave up for him so no biggie. Looks like we got Bogdanovic instead.

[url=http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18743061/washington-wizards-get-bojan-bogdanovic-trade-brooklyn-nets]Washington Wizards get Bojan Bogdanovic in trade with Brooklyn Nets[/url][/quote]

Getting out from Nicholson's contract is huge... but wouldn't have even been necessary if Ernie hadn't freaked out after putting all the eggs in the KD basket.

mooby 02-27-2017 01:35 AM

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[quote=itvnetop;1165606]Getting out from Nicholson's contract is huge... but wouldn't have even been necessary if Ernie hadn't freaked out after putting all the eggs in the KD basket.[/quote]

I'm still amazed he did that without a plan b, there was never any indication from KD that he was even mildly interested.

Chico23231 02-27-2017 08:33 PM

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[quote=mooby;1165815]I'm still amazed he did that without a plan b, there was never any indication from KD that he was even mildly interested.[/quote]

[url=http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/kevin-durant-opens-up-on-why-he-didnt-sign-with-his-hometown-wizards-022717]Kevin Durant opens up on why he didn’t sign with his hometown Wizards | FOX Sports[/url]

He actually addressed it today and I totally respect where he is coming from.

mooby 02-27-2017 08:54 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1165853][URL="http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/kevin-durant-opens-up-on-why-he-didnt-sign-with-his-hometown-wizards-022717"]Kevin Durant opens up on why he didn’t sign with his hometown Wizards | FOX Sports[/URL]

He actually addressed it today and I totally respect where he is coming from.[/quote]

Yup. Stealing this from somewhere else but I think if we had been winning at the time he would've considered it at least. Other than that I have no issues with his decision. I just wish we had had a backup plan for when he inevitably didn't pick us.

Chico23231 02-28-2017 09:45 PM

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Nice win for them wiz tonight

skinsfaninok 02-28-2017 10:44 PM

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Wizards are playing well. Russ for MVP though

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RedskinMike 03-01-2017 09:59 PM

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Wiz!!

CooleyAsCanBe 03-10-2017 07:09 PM

Re: Wizards
 
This has been a fun season. Starters are money and the Bogdanovic trade has worked out brilliantly. Interested to see how Jennings plays for the rest of the year. Having those two and a healthy Mahinmi coming off the bench has turned a weakness into an actual strength. Sucks we won't have a pick next year, but I'll take it.

Chico23231 03-11-2017 08:00 AM

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2nd seed in the east!

mredskins 03-20-2017 10:20 PM

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Go Celtics!!!

Chico23231 03-26-2017 07:05 AM

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Message sent to Cleveland.

CooleyAsCanBe 03-29-2017 10:45 AM

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Although winning the Division Title isn't the ultimate goal, it sure is nice and was a long time coming. This is a fun team.

itvnetop 03-29-2017 06:46 PM

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[quote=CooleyAsCanBe;1168768]Although winning the Division Title isn't the ultimate goal, it sure is nice and was a long time coming. This is a fun team.[/quote]

Moving in the right direction feels good.

Check out the [URL="https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-nba-predictions/"]odds to win[/URL] the finals. Although this site has been known to be wrong once in awhile...

mooby 03-29-2017 08:38 PM

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[quote=CooleyAsCanBe;1168768]Although winning the Division Title isn't the ultimate goal, it sure is nice and was a long time coming. This is a fun team.[/quote]

Definitely glad to be rid of that record, but I ain't getting my hopes up for the playoffs. It'd be nice to be surprised but DC has left me very jaded over the years for never advancing past the second round.

Chico23231 03-29-2017 08:55 PM

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[quote=mooby;1168779]Definitely glad to be rid of that record, but I ain't getting my hopes up for the playoffs. It'd be nice to be surprised but DC has left me very jaded over the years for never advancing past the second round.[/quote]

Dude what is it about D.C. Sports teams? Capitals, wizards, redskins and the Nats? I the maybe the Maryland championship(04?) and the George mason final four run...I guess that's given the town a little relief sports wise?

It's tough being D.C. Sports fan...the caps have to be the most disappointing. Too good and the window is closing

mooby 03-31-2017 07:54 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1168780]Dude what is it about D.C. Sports teams? Capitals, wizards, redskins and the Nats? I the maybe the Maryland championship(04?) and the George mason final four run...I guess that's given the town a little relief sports wise?

It's tough being D.C. Sports fan...the caps have to be the most disappointing. Too good and the window is closing[/quote]

Yup. Caps definitely most disappointing, for having such a great team over the years. Even when they go up 3-1 in a series I still don't get my hopes up lol, they just can't close the deal. They were the 3-1 chokers before the Warriors ever came along. They probably have this year and possibly next before the window is closed. Ovi is starting to age this year (recent hat trick notwithstanding) and we have a good team around him, but they are going to have to shed some players this offseason.

We know the deal with the Wizards, I know they are a better team this year but playoffs is partially luck combined with skill. Sometimes you need the bounces to go your way to advance. Like I said I'd love to see them advance and break this DC curse of no major sports teams appearing in the conference finals since '01 but I won't get my hopes up.

Chico23231 03-31-2017 08:54 AM

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[quote=mooby;1168810]Yup. Caps definitely most disappointing, for having such a great team over the years. Even when they go up 3-1 in a series I still don't get my hopes up lol, they just can't close the deal. They were the 3-1 chokers before the Warriors ever came along. They probably have this year and possibly next before the window is closed. Ovi is starting to age this year (recent hat trick notwithstanding) and we have a good team around him, but they are going to have to shed some players this offseason.

We know the deal with the Wizards, I know they are a better team this year but playoffs is partially luck combined with skill. Sometimes you need the bounces to go your way to advance. Like I said I'd love to see them advance and break this DC curse of no major sports teams appearing in the conference finals since '01 but I won't get my hopes up.[/quote]

as wiz fans I completely understand. I really think this is finally our best team, but we def need a couple things to go our way. One would be Boston or Cleveland to lose in the first round.

itvnetop 04-06-2017 09:14 PM

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One of the voices of the Bullets/Wiz [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2017/04/06/end-of-an-era-phil-chenier-wont-return-as-csns-wizards-primary-game-analyst/"]isn't returning[/URL] next year... I can't remember ever listening to games without Phil.

mooby 04-07-2017 02:42 PM

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[quote=itvnetop;1169102]One of the voices of the Bullets/Wiz [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2017/04/06/end-of-an-era-phil-chenier-wont-return-as-csns-wizards-primary-game-analyst/"]isn't returning[/URL] next year... I can't remember ever listening to games without Phil.[/quote]

Not trying to mince words here, it's a goddamn shame. It sounds like the execs just want a new voice in the booth. Phil Chenier is as much a part of this team as Ted Leonsis. He's been doing games in the booth longer than I've been alive. They totally did him dirty too, if you wanted a new voice tell him before the season starts so he can enjoy a farewell tour. It's the least they could do after 33 seasons serving this team in the booth. It'd be like the CSN getting rid of Beninati.

Also how you gonna do this to the guy the year the team finally joins the cusp of being elite. The comments that I read from Chenier feel like he was blindsided by this.

itvnetop 04-07-2017 09:28 PM

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[quote=mooby;1169124]Not trying to mince words here, it's a goddamn shame. It sounds like the execs just want a new voice in the booth. Phil Chenier is as much a part of this team as Ted Leonsis. He's been doing games in the booth longer than I've been alive. They totally did him dirty too, if you wanted a new voice tell him before the season starts so he can enjoy a farewell tour. It's the least they could do after 33 seasons serving this team in the booth. It'd be like the CSN getting rid of Beninati.

Also how you gonna do this to the guy the year the team finally joins the cusp of being elite. The comments that I read from Chenier feel like he was blindsided by this.[/quote]

Totally. He stayed through the decades of misery and now that the team has a future, he's not able to enjoy it (minus the rare short seasons of success past). His insight when watching a replay is pretty rare for local analysts and I appreciate his non-homerism when calling things as they are. At least he's still got a gig in the studio, but it's not the same. I remember his voice way back when Ledell Eackles and Tom Gugliotta were playing.

I'm thinking Christy Winters Scott may be the replacement. It would be unfortunate if Antawn replaces Phil's chair.

mooby 04-09-2017 11:17 AM

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[quote=itvnetop;1169130]Totally. He stayed through the decades of misery and now that the team has a future, he's not able to enjoy it (minus the rare short seasons of success past). His insight when watching a replay is pretty rare for local analysts and I appreciate his non-homerism when calling things as they are. At least he's still got a gig in the studio, but it's not the same. I remember his voice way back when Ledell Eackles and Tom Gugliotta were playing.

I'm thinking Christy Winters Scott may be the replacement. It would be unfortunate if Antawn replaces Phil's chair.[/quote]

I loved him because of how impartial he was, he always gave credit where it's due, even if it was against the Wizards. You're right, at least he got a studio gig but it's really not the same. You talking about Jamison replacing him? I'd give him a shot but I ain't getting my hopes up. It's hard to replace the chemistry that he and Steve B. had.


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