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amorentz 01-03-2006 02:44 PM

Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey
 
Does anyone else think that the Brees injury could increase the market for Ramsey a bit? Now I think there is no way SD can get rid of either guy (Brees coming off major surgery is now (a) bad trade value and (b) too risky to go an entire season with after trading Rivers)...they are going to have to franchise Brees again and see how he heals. I really feel for the guy, to be honest...

At the same time, this takes arguably the hottest QB off the market. Now Ramsey seems like the best young guy on the trade market.

Chris Mortensen said he thought the Skins could get a 3rd or possibly 2nd rounder for Ramsey a couple weeks ago, so Im hoping that Brees/Rivers coming off the market pushes that 3rd/2nd to a solid 2nd round pick.

Thoughts?

dmek25 01-03-2006 02:49 PM

Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey
 
i dont know enough about john abrahams to want him on our team.that seems to be the talk.the jets contact talks with him are nill right now.if he can play ,this would seem a better trade than an unproven second rounder

firstdown 01-03-2006 02:49 PM

Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey
 
[QUOTE=amorentz]Does anyone else think that the Brees injury could increase the market for Ramsey a bit? Now I think there is no way SD can get rid of either guy (Brees coming off major surgery is now (a) bad trade value and (b) too risky to go an entire season with after trading Rivers)...they are going to have to franchise Brees again and see how he heals. I really feel for the guy, to be honest...

At the same time, this takes arguably the hottest QB off the market. Now Ramsey seems like the best young guy on the trade market.

Chris Mortensen said he thought the Skins could get a 3rd or possibly 2nd rounder for Ramsey a couple weeks ago, so Im hoping that Brees/Rivers coming off the market pushes that 3rd/2nd to a solid 2nd round pick.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]That was a nasty looking play where Brees got injured. Don't be so fast to think Ramsey will be gone next year. His cap hit is not to bad and Gibbs likes two QB's with exp. and I think Ramsey is learning alot watching Brunell.

hooskins 01-03-2006 02:50 PM

Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey
 
I do not know if Ramsey would be a good starter at SD, I guess that is because I am not a huge Ramsey fan, but we will see.

amorentz 01-03-2006 03:34 PM

Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey
 
[QUOTE=hooskins]I do not know if Ramsey would be a good starter at SD, I guess that is because I am not a huge Ramsey fan, but we will see.[/QUOTE]

No, I wasnt suggesting that he be the starter there, just that the market for him might pick up a bit because none of the SD QBs are going to be on the market.

Mattyk 01-03-2006 03:39 PM

Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey
 
Word is the Chargers weren't going to part with Rivers even before Brees' injury unless they were to receive a killer offer.

This [i]could[/i] help the market for Ramsey, but I don't think it will change things much.

Who knows, as firstdown said Ramsey could be back next year. We'll have to wait and see.

Hog1 01-03-2006 03:49 PM

Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey
 
Look at the Pool of available QB's?????????? it's like the pool of PROVEN, GOOD, available head coach's. It doesn't exist. It is a SELLERS market. All demand, and very little supply. It can't get much better for us if we choose to deal him.

CrazyCanuck 01-03-2006 03:50 PM

Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey
 
Ramsey could be back next year. A lot will depend on Campbell's readiness and the market for PR. There's no way I see us simply giving Ramsey away. Gibbs already has QB paranoia so I don't see Ramsey moving unless we can find a really good deal.

12thMan 01-03-2006 04:15 PM

Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey
 
I've thought every since the Giants game that Gibbs would be very, very reluctant to let Ramsey go. It would have to be a really sweet deal.

Paintrain 01-03-2006 04:26 PM

Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey
 
Well I think the Saints getting the #2 pick hurts us because that was a perfect sutuation to send Ramsey to for a 2nd round pick but looking around the league I only see a few teams in need of a starting QB..

Arizona, though they will probably go after Culpepper in a trade
Detroit, Harrington is probably done
KC as a succesor to Trent Green
Minnesota if they deal Culpepper

memphisskin 01-03-2006 04:31 PM

Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey
 
Campbell is going to play at some point, might as well get what we can from Ramsey in a trade. Abraham seems too good to be true, adding a 10+ sack guy to our defensive line rotation makes put our defense over the top. Ramsey is not the guy here, so we may as well get something of value in return from him. I agree that he's as immobile as Bledsoe.

celts32 01-03-2006 05:01 PM

Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey
 
Once the season ends Ramsey will make public his desire to move on. He will not be happy being #2 again next year and as Gibbs proved with LC last year when a player makes noise they will be sent packing. Ramsey was a good soldier this year when he could have rocked the boat...he deserves his chance to move on ad try and start elsewhere. Some team needs to come up with some trade offeres though...he will not just be given away.

diehardskin2982 01-03-2006 05:16 PM

Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey
 
with the Saints in the #2 spot they will either take Lienarht or Young. If they hire Mike Martz they will get Leinarht. I wanted to trade for Darren Howard. But if the Abraham for Ramsey trade goes through, I'd take it in a heart beat. My question is what will they do with Arrington?

skinsttw 01-03-2006 10:41 PM

Re: Brees and Rivers and the Market for Ramsey
 
Maybe trade LA for a decent cornerback?


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