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saden1 01-19-2006 10:37 AM

Bitter Jets Fans?
 
Jets fans are talking and they are talking [URL=http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=29622&highlight=Moss]Moss vs Coles[/URL]. Some of them make sense, others make you scratch your head and say WTF? Here is the ultimate question though, will Moss have as good of a year next year?

Hog1 01-19-2006 10:41 AM

Re: Bitter Jets Fans?
 
Moss is an every down reciever who runs ANY route. They thought they were putting the wood to us on the deal. It worked out the opposite, and they don't like the taste of crow! Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!

Daseal 01-19-2006 10:42 AM

Re: Bitter Jets Fans?
 
To be completely honest, while Moss played outstanding this year, he doesn't even come close to breaking the layer for top tier receivers. If he can replicate a year like this then I'll start to feel a bit more confident about him. Seeing as how our offense as a whole would disappear in big games its hard to tell what of that can be pinned on Moss and what can be pinned on others.

I don't feel Moss will be able to play lights out next year like this year. He'll have a good season, but nothing amazing.

Mattyk 01-19-2006 10:45 AM

Re: Bitter Jets Fans?
 
[QUOTE=Daseal]To be completely honest, while Moss played outstanding this year, he doesn't even come close to breaking the layer for top tier receivers. If he can replicate a year like this then I'll start to feel a bit more confident about him. Seeing as how our offense as a whole would disappear in big games its hard to tell what of that can be pinned on Moss and what can be pinned on others.

I don't feel Moss will be able to play lights out next year like this year. He'll have a good season, but nothing amazing.[/QUOTE]

Not sure what you mean with Moss not being a top tier WR. Do you mean you need to see him do it again to believe? Because as of right now he finished #2 in the NFL in yardage, so you'd have to say right now he [b]is[/b] a top tier WR.

SmootSmack 01-19-2006 10:45 AM

Re: Bitter Jets Fans?
 
"The only thing I would add is that I am sick of people talking about how he has made such big plays, when every single one of them involved him simply beating his man. He never "makes" a play. Big plays happen to him. He catches balls downfield, and then finishes off with a TD because there is no one in front of him."

That may be one of the dumbest posts ever on a message board. He doesn't make a play, he just beats his man? Big plays happen to him?

Mattyk 01-19-2006 10:47 AM

Re: Bitter Jets Fans?
 
A year ago at this time I would have had a hard time believing that Moss was going to be so much better than Coles. But now it's quite obvious that all Moss needed was the chance to show what he could do. In NY they didn't fully utilize his talents, and of course he had some injury problems that didn't help. But since coming here he really took hold of the opportunity and now there's no comparing the two, Moss is clearly the better WR.

Redskins_P 01-19-2006 10:50 AM

Re: Bitter Jets Fans?
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS]"The only thing I would add is that I am sick of people talking about how he has made such big plays, when every single one of them involved him simply beating his man. He never "makes" a play. Big plays happen to him. He catches balls downfield, and then finishes off with a TD because there is no one in front of him."

That may be one of the dumbest posts ever on a message board. He doesn't make a play, he just beats his man? Big plays happen to him?[/QUOTE]

Seriously.....that has to be one the dumbest posts I've ever seen.

Mattyk 01-19-2006 10:51 AM

Re: Bitter Jets Fans?
 
[QUOTE=TAFKAS]"The only thing I would add is that I am sick of people talking about how he has made such big plays, when every single one of them involved him simply beating his man. He never "makes" a play. Big plays happen to him. He catches balls downfield, and then finishes off with a TD because there is no one in front of him."

That may be one of the dumbest posts ever on a message board. He doesn't make a play, he just beats his man? Big plays happen to him?[/QUOTE]

Wow, all I can say is wow.

All he does is beat his man??

Ummm, yeah that's the idea and what every coach wishes all their WR's could do.

I would love to know what this guy thinks making a big play is. Beating your man is the first step in any big play.

Daseal 01-19-2006 10:53 AM

Re: Bitter Jets Fans?
 
Exactly Matty -- I need to see that this wasn't a one year thing. Regardless of where he was in yards: When I toss out names like Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Tory Holt, Anquan Boldin, etc, etc. Take the personallity that you may like or dislike away from each of these and look at a skill level. Would you keep Moss over any of them? I wouldn't.

If I see Moss replicate a year ANYTHING even remotely close (top 10 receiving, 6-7+ TD, being a staple in our offense for 16 games) I'll feel more confident.

EEich 01-19-2006 10:54 AM

Re: Bitter Jets Fans?
 
All Alexander does is run for yardage and touchdowns. I mean it's not like he's any good.

Mattyk 01-19-2006 10:56 AM

Re: Bitter Jets Fans?
 
The Moss vs. Coles isn't even worth discussing with these bone-headed, ultra-homer Jets fans.

If they prefer Coles and his stellar 11.6 yards per catch more power to them.

Mattyk 01-19-2006 10:59 AM

Re: Bitter Jets Fans?
 
[QUOTE=Daseal]Exactly Matty -- I need to see that this wasn't a one year thing. Regardless of where he was in yards: When I toss out names like Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Tory Holt, Anquan Boldin, etc, etc. Take the personallity that you may like or dislike away from each of these and look at a skill level. Would you keep Moss over any of them? I wouldn't.

If I see Moss replicate a year ANYTHING even remotely close (top 10 receiving, 6-7+ TD, being a staple in our offense for 16 games) I'll feel more confident.[/QUOTE]

Well if we're talking about who's a better for this offense I'd have to take Moss. He's one of the best screen WRs in the league, and since that's a staple in this passing game you could mention him ahead of guys like Owens, Harrison, etc.

Moss didn't have a worthy compliment across from him either. Outside of TO all the guys you listed have pretty solid #2's and even #3's playing along with them.

jdlea 01-19-2006 11:01 AM

Re: Bitter Jets Fans?
 
[QUOTE=Daseal]Exactly Matty -- I need to see that this wasn't a one year thing. Regardless of where he was in yards: When I toss out names like Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Tory Holt, Anquan Boldin, etc, etc. Take the personallity that you may like or dislike away from each of these and look at a skill level. Would you keep Moss over any of them? I wouldn't.

If I see Moss replicate a year ANYTHING even remotely close (top 10 receiving, 6-7+ TD, being a staple in our offense for 16 games) I'll feel more confident.[/QUOTE]

I follow your logic, but I have to say that I would take Moss over Boldin. I just don't see enough from him to think that he's that much better. He had a very good year in spite of his injuries and that play against San Fran was crazy, but Fitzgerald ended up in the Pro Bowl from that team, so it wasn't a one man show. Like I said, I see what you're saying, but I have faith that Santana can have a similar season and I would take him over Boldin, but if we're only judging talent, he [B]might[/B] be the only one on that list. I can see where you're coming from, I don't know that I necessarily agree, but I do see where you're coming from.

diehardskin2982 01-19-2006 11:03 AM

Re: Bitter Jets Fans?
 
he'll have an even better year if we end up snatching al saunders!

dmek25 01-19-2006 11:17 AM

Re: Bitter Jets Fans?
 
i think those fans are related to eagle fans.payton manning didnt do anything but get the ball to the receivers,is this what is meant by moss didnt make plays,he just ran by his man?if those fans are so happy with coles,why the thread?ask any knowledgeable fan who they would want on their team and every one of them takes moss.the funny thing is coles was suppose to be the burner that moss is,coles would be a good possesion receiver for the skins


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