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FRPLG 01-20-2006 11:03 PM

When Gibbs is gone
 
I don't want him to go in any way but I was bored and started to look foward beyond next season and the thought occured to me:
Joe Gibbs is a winner. Everything he does seems to work out well. But one thing he had his hands on didn't turn out so well: his leaving the first time.

Now it is pretty much accepted that he had to leave for most of the same reasons that hard core coaches tend leave for. Over-worked, exhausted, health problems, more family time, etc.... All accpetable reasons for leaving. Especially after the success he had seen. But when he left the organization was stunned and left reeling. The team went into disarray and within two years every one of his assitants was gone. It was a disaster that has haunted the team since.

It seems to me that this time he is not only gearing up to get one more Lombardi but he is also gearing up to be gone again. A winner like him can't possibly feel right about how everything worked out the first time so this time he is doing everything he can to not only get quality people here now but to do everything to keep them for when he is gone.

It occurs to me that we have FOUR head coaches on this team. Gibbs, Williams, Saunders and Bugel have all been head coaches in this league and I have to wonder if that has ever happened before?

Anyways to end this ramble with something to discuss. I would like to honestly thank our stand up coach not just for his integrity and ability to put together winning footballs teams with character but also for doing a better job of looking out for the future this time. It is the only thing that can be looked upon with any semblance of negativity from his first tenure and it looks to me like he is making right on that. We truely do have a one of kind coach and I for one am grateful for the day the Ol' Ball Coach high-tailed it back to where he came from.

Pocket$ $traight 01-20-2006 11:07 PM

Re: When Gibbs is gone
 
Why are you worried about this now? He will be there at least one more year. Worry about the salary cap and this upcoming year.

FRPLG 01-20-2006 11:12 PM

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper]Why are you worried about this now? He will be there at least one more year. Worry about the salary cap and this upcoming year.[/QUOTE]
What's wrong with looking foward? And I'm not worried about it. That's the point. We have plenty of time to discuss the salary cap and the draft and all that stuff. It will be discussed in excess I can promise you. I don't think broaching something else like the distant future ad how we're preparing for it now is out of line considering I think it is obviously a cornerstone of what Gibbs is trying to do.

Schneed10 01-20-2006 11:46 PM

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Good point, FRPLG. He seems to be gunning for long-term sustainability this go round.

steveo395 01-21-2006 12:15 AM

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the team should be much better off this time gibbs leaves, there are plenty of good coaches on this team who can take over

70Chip 01-21-2006 12:19 AM

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The first time Coach left it was a "perfect storm" of bad events that caused the Skins to fall so fast:

1. The team was getting old.
2. Free Agency cost the team some valuable players e.g. Gary Clarke, Mark May, Mark Schlereth.
3. Nearly every player that Casserly brought in through FA was el busto e.g. Tim Mcgee, Al Noga
4. Desmond Howard (drafted in 1992) was el busto
5. Richie Petitbon was ill suited to the Head Coaching job.
6. Petitbon and Casserly did not get along.
7. Injuries
8. Offensive Coordinator - Rod Dowhower

It is unlikely that events would conspire in such a way the second time around.

htownskinfan 01-21-2006 12:30 AM

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I dont know if pettibon was not suited for a head coach or not,it might have been circumstances beyond his control,but i loved him as a def coord,his def were always good,its a shame he dissapeared after he was fired,i wonder what happened to him and where hes at now

skinsfanthru&thru 01-21-2006 12:38 AM

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I for one think this will definitely assist Gibbs in staying through his contract cuz this helps him spread out the duties/stress to 2-3 extremely capable coaches and is less likely to heap every single problem and issue onto his own shoulders to solve.

70Chip 01-21-2006 12:46 AM

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[QUOTE=htownskinfan]I dont know if pettibon was not suited for a head coach or not,it might have been circumstances beyond his control,but i loved him as a def coord,his def were always good,its a shame he dissapeared after he was fired,i wonder what happened to him and where hes at now[/QUOTE]

No doubt that Petitbon was a defensive genius. I seem to remember rumours about laxe discipline though. Maybe that was started by the Casserly camp.

Dirtbag59 01-21-2006 01:22 AM

Re: When Gibbs is gone
 
Gregg Williams will probably replace Gibbs after he leaves. Theres a clause in Williams new contract that pays him $1 million dollars if hes not offered the Redskins head coaching job when Gibbs retires.

bertoskins 01-21-2006 01:37 AM

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Even if Gibbs will stop coaching with the skins, he should act as president of football operations for Dan Snyder, at if this will push thru redskins will always be acondenter no matter who will be his successor as coach

saden1 01-21-2006 02:25 AM

Re: When Gibbs is gone
 
Lets not all forget why Gibbs came back. He came back to right a ship that has been on the wrong path for 13 years. I believe everything he is doing is to setup the Redskins to succeed not just now but in the future. Even if he retires once again I'm pretty sure he'll be part of the organization in some capacity.

EternalEnigma21 01-21-2006 10:28 AM

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[QUOTE=saden1]Lets not all forget why Gibbs came back. He came back to right a ship that has been on the wrong path for 13 years. I believe everything he is doing is to setup the Redskins to succeed not just now but in the future. Even if he retires once again I'm pretty sure he'll be part of the organization in some capacity.[/QUOTE]

Not only that, but he came back for his son. His son wants to coach, and I'm sure he'll get his shot. I wonder how he's progressing, and certainly being surrounded by williams and saunders, breaux and buges, (not to mention his dad) has to rub off a little.

I think (looking farther into the future) it will be interesting to see if the skins have a Coy Gibbs era sometime in the next decade or so.

dblanch66 01-21-2006 01:12 PM

Re: When Gibbs is gone
 
I think Gibbs will be here for the duration of his contract and if he doesn't win a ring, I can conceivably see him re-upping for 2 years. He wants a championship here badly. However, if the Redskins win the SB, I see G. Williams stepping in as HC with Saunders remaining as the OC and G. Blache moving into the DC position. I don't think any of the assistants will leave due to the fact that Snyder will compensate them handsomely to stay. Redskins are in good shape for the future.

SmootSmack 01-21-2006 01:21 PM

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When Williams re-signed, a lot of us thought that must have been what Gibbs was talking about when he had said a few weeks prior that Snyder made a decision that was going to cost him lots of money, but would be good for the team. Now I'm thinking maybe it was actually the decision to go after Saunders.


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