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SKINSnCANES 04-29-2004 02:14 PM

Trade for Ogunleye?
The more he speaks out about not wanting to play without a contract, then perhaps the less Miami would want to get him in a trade. I dont know if it would be worth giving our first rounder up for him, theres speculation hes only good when hes opposite double teamed Jason Taylor, but he would definitly be an upgrade for us.

Associated Press
MIAMI -- Miami Dolphins defensive end Adewale Ogunleye plans to miss a minicamp for the first time in his career this week, and he said he'll sit out the start of the season unless he receives a better contract offer.

Ogunleye, who led the AFC last year with 15 sacks and made the Pro Bowl for the first time, said he won't sign the one-year, $1.824 million tender the Dolphins extended to him. He's seeking a five- to seven-year deal after making a base salary of $375,000 last year.

"I'm coming off a Pro Bowl year," Ogunleye said Wednesday. `They've gotten basically a steal. They should be happy."

Ogunleye spoke from New York, where he's visiting family. He's not participating in the Dolphins' offseason program, and he said he'll be absent when the team opens its first mini-camp Friday.

If necessary, Ogunleye said, he'll sit out the first 10 games this year, then make himself available for the final six games so he can become a free agent after the season.

Training camp begins in July, and Miami opens the season Sept. 12. Ogunleye said he's not sure the Dolphins are convinced he's willing to hold out.

"I think it might come down to when I miss that first game," he said. "I think that's when it's going to be, `OK, he's serious.' And by then it might be too late."

Dolphins general manager Rick Spielman described such scenarios as "hypotheticals that we don't need to deal with right now."

Ogunleye is a restricted free agent but received no offers this offseason from other teams.

Two teams in the market for free-agent help at defensive end, Seattle and Philadelphia, signed Jevon Kearse and Grant Wistrom, respectively. Each received a signing bonus of at least $14 million.

"The market is set," Ogunleye said. "There should be no debate. Are you trying to stick it to me for some reason? That's the way I'm looking at it."

Spielman said the Dolphins consider Ogunleye an important part of the team.

"He played very well last year," Spielman said. "Where we're at right now is that he's a restricted free agent who had the highest tender placed on him, and as long as he has not signed that, he will not be at mini-camp because he's not under contract."

skinsfanthru&thru 04-29-2004 02:46 PM

i think he'd probably be too expensive contract wise and trade wise since we don't have a 2nd rounder next year and the dolphins wouldn't take anything less than that i would think unless this becomes a situation like TO in San Fran or Boston in San diego, when those teams were willing to give up said players as long as they got something in return. i've watched the dolphins quite a few times the past couple years and sure it doesn't hurt him to have taylor on the other end of the d-line, but Ogunleye is no slouch of a de by himself.

kingerock 04-29-2004 02:50 PM

I guess it would be great to have him, I think with Daniels on the other side they could make some big plays, but I don't really see Daniels as an everydown DE. If it was my decision to make I would probably not mess with trying to get him.

Carnage 04-29-2004 02:50 PM

Its too much of a risk. I doubt this guy has ever seen a double team, with Taylor on the other side.

skinsfanthru&thru 04-29-2004 02:58 PM

[QUOTE=Carnage]Its too much of a risk. I doubt this guy has ever seen a double team, with Taylor on the other side.[/QUOTE]

he saw his share of double teams when taylor was out of the game or when he was getting good pressure on a cosistent basis in a game, the dt sometimes got shifted to him.

skinsfanthru&thru 04-29-2004 03:01 PM

but he is kinda on the smallish side for a de.

Riggo44 04-29-2004 03:09 PM

No way! He has a good year and want's the world! I say put up the numbers for a few years in a row and then we will see.

skinsfanthru&thru 04-29-2004 03:10 PM

[QUOTE=Riggo44]No way! He has a good year and want's the world! I say put up the numbers for a few years in a row and then we will see.[/QUOTE]

he had 15 sacks last year and 10 the year before. ever since he was put in as a regular starter, he's lit up the backfield.

JWsleep 04-29-2004 03:57 PM

We don't have the cap space. Again, it looks like the only real trade we could make would be for Samuels. I don't like it, but if we could find some other way, he'd be a big upgrade at DT.

SKINSnCANES 04-29-2004 03:58 PM

yea its not like this guy had one year that he was good and now wants the big payday. Hes benn good ever sine he was put in, and he made 375000 last year, thast nothing for a probowl player. They should give him a new contract, or trade him. He woudl definitly be a force with Griffin and daniels, and if they double team him then we blitz lavar to his side, problem solved.

jasonskin 04-29-2004 03:59 PM

A he is better then anybody we got but we shoud not give a first round draft pick for him.

SKINSnCANES 04-29-2004 04:01 PM

I dunno, a probowl end, or the 32nd pick in the draft?!? kinda tempting.

diehardskin2982 04-29-2004 04:05 PM

I say wait for hugh douglas to get cut in June see how much he wants, that would be an awsome pick up

SKINSnCANES 04-29-2004 04:17 PM

he would be cheaper, or should be atleast. Hes old and wanst productive last year and is out of shape now. If by June 1st hes in shape and wants to redeem him self with a small one year deal, then id say get him.

jasonskin 04-29-2004 04:21 PM

I love the the skins but i do not think they going to when the superbowl this year.So that pic first round pick we can us.we need to stop trading picks we will save alot more money. we don't need a bigtime name we need people who love the game and plays hard

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