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I have heard some whispers, but no articles or news stories that the Redskins may seek to build a new 100,000 seat football only stadium at RFK after the Nationals leave for their new stadium in 08.

Again, I have neither seen nor read any news stories nor articles related to this subject, I have only heard rumors concerning the subject so I don't know how true it is.

Are there any thoughts from anyone concerning such a potential scenario?

I for one have very mixed feelings if this ever happens.

FedEx is just starting to finally gain slowly but surely that homefield advantage that has been badly missed since the days of RFK.

FedEx while not the fanciest and best located of football stadiums is modern, newer and in terms of capacity, luxury seats and club level attractions will allow the SKINs to financially top all teams in revenue for a long time to come. Why leave?

But if we know the Dan, he has high asperations. He seems like the type of guy that would want his own legacy and his own playpin, especially with the other area franchises either downtown (Wiz, CAPS) or heading downtown (NATS). He's going to want a piece of the action.

Once RFK is left, it will be interesting to see what happens.

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I can't see that happening with the relative "newness" of FedEx.

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Highly unlikely if you ask me.

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Yeah, I do not think that will happen either, hell the stadium was only built like 8 or 10 years ago!!! I sure hope stadiums get more than 10 years of use out of them because if they dont I am officially starting my very own Stadium building business!!!

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If anybody can afford it it's Snyder. I've always wondered what a Snyder built stadium would look like. One could only hope that he would avoid those obstructed view seats.:)

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I think without a doubt this rumor could be true. It's no secret that Snyder has been pissed about getting rejected for the Super Bowl because FedEx doesnt have a dome. Not only that it brings football back to "Washington" if you will.

I could totally see this, granted I wouldn't be the least bit suprised if it's fake.

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dont see this happening. i have grown to love fedex.

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I would like this scenario if nothing else because it would probably bump up a lot of us who are currently pretty deep on the season tix waiting list. How about it Danny-Boy?

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Yea right! And what will they do? Just sell Fed Ex to a Soccer team? The Redskins own all that property in Landover.They get all the parking $$ on top of the ticket & concession sales. Why would they go and lease the property RFK sits on? So the could share that $$ with somone else? Just look at the pic above, and tell me that's not a cash cow. It would be cool to have the Redskins back in "D.C." But It won't happen.

Nice pic Malcolm :goodjob:

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Fedex seats over 90,000 now so why would he spend all that money to add a few thousand seats. If Fedex was around 60,000 or so, I could see the need.

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I would think they would continue to renovate FedEx rather than building a new stadium. Fedex would only be 11 years old in 2008.

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Actually, the unconfirmed additional rumor that I heard was that Synder in doing this would sell FedEx to developers who are really pushing hard to develop in PG County and he in turn would buy RFK, the land and build the new stadium and demolish RFK out of his own pocket. Don't know if this is true either, just reporting what the rumor is.

But I agree, the purpose of these new stadiums is to boast team revenues and make teams competitive in free agency. How can the SKINs get any better of a revenue set up in terms of a "newer" stadium than FedEX. and after this baseball mess who the heck would want to give up this set up and deal with the D.C. Gov?

Jack Kent Cooke was brilliant. He realized that by using his own $ to build a stadium and buy land and design that stadium specifically around capacity and premium and luxury levels that the team would rake in all the cash and would have to share it with D.C.

Snyder added to this and this is why we are the top revenue team in the NFL and other than the Yankees in all of sports today.

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the team would rake in all the cash and wouldn't have to share it with D.C.


Sorry forgot the n't.

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Maybe this time they'll think to include digital support in the new stadium so the big screen is really big.

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat]Maybe this time they'll think to include digital support in the new stadium so the big screen is really big.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, using binoculars to see the "Jumbotron" is absurd.:laughing-

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I read in an old sporting news article that rated NFL stadiums that RFK was the best in the league, not only because the balconies rocked when people got excited but also because the seats were so darn close to the field that you could practically touch the players. FedEx is nice because of the large capacity and tremendous noise, but I don't think it will ever compare to RFK.

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UM, this has to be false.

first, danny doesn't own the land in DC, second, DC is terrible place to do business even if he pays all costs, and third [b]Dan is still something like 250 million in debt for the current stadium[/b]

there's no way you could plan buy approve and build a staduim in DC in under 4 years.

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i don,t forsee this happening either. rumor is what it is a rumor.

although if it were to happen i loved rfk but the times have a changed hasn,t it.

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While I doubt this will happen I would love to see it happen. Having the stadium out in Landover is about the same as having the stadium in Hagerstown, whenever there is a Monday night game there is absolutely no buzz or vibe in the city like there is in cities where the stadium is in town. I have been in Pit, Indy, StL on Monday nights when the home team is playing and the city is electric. I work in DC and there is none of that electricity because the stadium is so far away. I hope someday the skins come back home to DC.

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I think if anything there will be improvements to Fed Ex - like a retractable roof or something like that if it possible before they would build another stadium. Dan does want a Super Bowl and that stadium is perfect if they could get a roof on it TEMPORARILY!

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FedEx hasn't even been open for 10 years...not only that but Snyder invested a crap load of money renovating and adding to the Stadium. Last time I checked, the Skins debt ratio was atrocious. If Snyder is going to do anything with his money, he is going to pay down the money he already owes for buying the team and the stadium.

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Hey! I can see Waldo in that pic!

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[QUOTE=doxiechic12000]Hey! I can see Waldo in that pic![/QUOTE]
Very funny. :lol:

As to the rumor, that can only come up when we have nothing else to talk about. After watching the turmoil with the Nationals stadium, does anyone [i]really[/i] believe the DC Council will go thru that again, not to mention Mr. Snyder? (I call him "Mr." since he lured Joe Gibbs out of retirement.) RFK is in a pure residential neighborhood; no place for a 100,000 seat stadium, and the parking, and the crowd. This one ranks right down there with "TO is coming to the Redskins." Won't happen in your lifetime.

Besides, Fedex is a gold mine. No way will it go idle.

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a friend of mine works for fox sports said no way that fed ex hosts a super bowl because of the amount of camara stands and the poor sight lines.and there is no way to a new stadium

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Redskins use Fedex for 8 regular season games, 2 preseason games, draft day party, and the tent sale. I think Snyder let a few bands play there last season. But as a whole it sits there unused for most of the year. Fedex is defniitely a cash cow or they would have more events there. With the 10 home games times 93,000 people is $$$.
Just remember, We all love the redskins, but football is BIG BUSINESS. And theres a reason why the redskins are the most profitable.

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[QUOTE=REDSKIN2] Snyder added to this and this is why we are the top revenue team in the NFL and other than the Yankees in all of sports today.[/QUOTE]
redskins are the richest team in all of sports in the world [url="http://www.forbes.com/lists/2005/30/300925.html"]http://www.forbes.com/lists/2005/30/300925.html[/url]

#2 is the Manchester United Soccer Team [url="http://www.forbes.com/finance/lists/34/2005/LIR.jhtml?passListId=34&passYear=2005&passListType=Misc&uniqueId=340001&datatype=Misc"]http://www.forbes.com/finance/lists/34/2005/LIR.jhtml?passListId=34&passYear=2005&passListType=Misc&uniqueId=340001&datatype=Misc[/url]

the yankees are like $300 million behind us [url="http://www.forbes.com/finance/lists/33/2005/LIR.jhtml?passListId=33&passYear=2005&passListType=Misc&uniqueId=334613&datatype=Misc"]http://www.forbes.com/finance/lists/33/2005/LIR.jhtml?passListId=33&passYear=2005&passListType=Misc&uniqueId=334613&datatype=Misc[/url]

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[QUOTE=REDSKIN2]I have heard some whispers, but no articles or news stories that the Redskins may seek to build a new 100,000 seat football only stadium at RFK after the Nationals leave for their new stadium in 08.

Again, I have neither seen nor read any news stories nor articles related to this subject, I have only heard rumors concerning the subject so I don't know how true it is.

Are there any thoughts from anyone concerning such a potential scenario?

I for one have very mixed feelings if this ever happens.

FedEx is just starting to finally gain slowly but surely that homefield advantage that has been badly missed since the days of RFK.

FedEx while not the fanciest and best located of football stadiums is modern, newer and in terms of capacity, luxury seats and club level attractions will allow the SKINs to financially top all teams in revenue for a long time to come. Why leave?

But if we know the Dan, he has high asperations. He seems like the type of guy that would want his own legacy and his own playpin, especially with the other area franchises either downtown (Wiz, CAPS) or heading downtown (NATS). He's going to want a piece of the action.

Once RFK is left, it will be interesting to see what happens.[/QUOTE]

Come on chief. Whoever spread that rumor obviously doesn't live around here. Haven't you seen how inept the D.C. city council is??? I will grow a second head before that happens.

They can't even build a baseball stadium. D.C. can't respond to a 911 call in less than 15 minutes, how the hell are they going to rebuild RFK? Case and point, regarding the baseball stadium, the D.C. city council is claiming that they saved the city all of this money. What they fail to tell people is that if they had committed when the issue was first brought up, they would have saved millions of dollars in construction fees.

Absolutely no way.

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If Snyder is considering this, he should take a look at the nonsense that the DC City Council is engaged in with baseball and ask himself if that's how he wants to spend the next twenty years. Mr Cooke tried to build on the RFK site and he got consistent opposition fom the city, even though he was footing the bill. It's a quagmire. Besides, I thought FedEx really came into its own this year.

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cooke_jack.jpg"][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d5/Cooke_jack.jpg[/img][/url]

"By God stay clear of those damned DC politicians!"

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Fed Ex is where the Redskins will be for some time. I think it's easier access, safer, ridiculous amount of land and parking compared to the RFK site. I would love to see them do what Chicago did with Soldier Field. Resurrect and modernize and enlarge it while keeping some architectural original pieces. It would be awesome. But just because I witnessed the magic that was RFK. Gibbs is back in town and that's good enough for me don't care if we ever get a Superbowl or move back to DC. GO REDSKINS!!!

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Please recall that when JKC offered to build a new facility right next door to RFK with his own money, the DC govt (including two different incompetent mayors) couldn't find a way to let him do that. It took almost 7 years of negotiating before JKC took his team to the suburbs because he wanted to have a stadium built with his name on it before he died. That didn't quite work out for him.

Somehow, I don't see Danny Boy having the patience or the political acumen and charm to work with those incompetent boobs for more than about 3 months. And in 3 months, the DC City Council can't decide if it is raining or not.

The problem with Fed Ex is the way that it was built. It was built fast and on the cheap because they wanted to get it done before Good Old JKC went to that big League Meeting in the Sky. That didn't quite work out.

Be a bit analytical here instead of emotional:

Fed Ex is a VERY large stadium with all the beauty and all the atmosphere of a portable toilet farm. Even Giants Stadium - built in that horrid locale - has a superior ambience to Fed Ex. As long as the Vet was still standing - and it isn't anymore - Fed Ex couldn't be considered the worst venue in the NFC. Now, it is one of the strong contenders for that infamous title. Maybe SF is worse; maybe Minnesota is worse; at the moment, New Orleans is definitely worse.

As long as the Raiders play in whatever they call their stadium this week, the Skins will not have to worry about being in the worst stadium in the league, but if an earthquake takes out Oakland...

It shouldn't be long before the Skins start thinking about/ planning for/ moving toward building a new stadium. Fed Ex is living on borrowed time.

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SC, its good enough right now and danny is still paying off over 350mill in debt on the team, so i don't see it happening anytime remotely soon.

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Fed Ex isn't by any means the prettiest stadium in the NFL but it is the most profitable and this is the main reason why I can't see the SKINs leaving anytime soon.

When the SKINs are playing well and that place gets rockin it can be a great homefield advantage. My problem with it has always been it's location and lack of character.

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[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]... maybe Minnesota is worse; ....[/QUOTE]

Actually, the Minnesota Metrodome is a great stadium for fans. It's small size (65,000) means every seat has great sight lines and is close to the field, compared to a behemouth like FedEx. The dome protects from bad weather plus it holds in the sound, an advantage for the 12th man.

The problem with the Metrodome is that it's a drag on the economics of pro sports. For the Vikings, there are not enough corporate suites to raise the cash to compete with Washington, Dallas, or Chicago's new Soldier Field, for talent. For the Twins, the Dome is just too big. They only draw about 30,000 fans per game when they are winning. They can't affort the rent so lose money. (They've become specialists at developing young, unknown talent knowing they will lose them to a big market team some day.)

The things that make the Metrodome so good for fans are killing the teams that call it home. The things that make FedEx so poor for fans, makes it a money machine for the Redskins to attract talent. This is why there are intense discussions between owners of small market teams and owners of big market teams. That's holding up a new labor agreement with the players association.

It's the game between the seasons, and it's almost as interesting as what happens on the field.

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I really dont think there is a chance of moving to a new stadium. Look at the idiots now with the baseball team. They agree to one thing, then decide to start changing things, they are a bunch of idiots. Plus this place seats over 90K people and bring in crap load of money. Who cares about the ambiance of being downtown, who wants to see bums laying on the damn streets when you go in and leave the game. The stadium might be ordinary in design, but the 90K fans that scream there head off every game make it a very tough place to play for opposing teams. Plus, when we start winning on a regular basis, this place will be the WORST place for opposing teams. I went to the Dallas game, and it was so load I couldn't hear the guy next to me.

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If this is a wish list thread then.....

I'd like a Stadium in Northern Virginia closer to Redskins Park [and me]
I'd like it to hold 125,216 people
Retractable Roof to allow real grass, close for bad weather and Super Bowls and to help hold sound even with open.

If this happens I get FREE tickets for my ideas


peace

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Highly unlikely if you ask me.[/QUOTE]


agree with you