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Mattyk 02-12-2006 12:47 PM

Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?
 
[quote]Lewis on the block?
[i]<Feb. 11>[/i] According to the Baltimore Sun, associates and friends close to Lewis have said that he doesn't want to play in Baltimore for the 2006 season. Ravens General manager Ozzie Newsome said the linebacker hasn't informed the team of any such intention, but did admit that Lewis had a recent meeting with team owner Steve Bisciotti in Florida, and said Lewis asked to be traded before the start of the 2005 season. he seven-time Pro Bowl performer actually went into a self-imposed isolation from the team last season after the Ravens declined to restructure his contract, which still has three years left.

League sources have said the Ravens were sending out "feelers" in a possible trade for Lewis, [b]but they haven't gotten more than a second- round draft pick in exchange.[/quote]
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Doesn't look good for our chances to get a high pick for Ramsey if someone like Ray Lewis isn't drawing more interest than just a 2nd rounder.

steveo395 02-12-2006 12:49 PM

Re: Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?
 
i dont want him...hes overrated and will cost way too much

marshall is a good mlb, we dont need him anyway

maybe we'll get lucky with trading ramsey if a team is desperate

jamf 02-12-2006 12:57 PM

Re: Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?
 
Ray lewis was overrated in his prime, he is well past his prime.

Ramsey still hasnt reached his prime. there are many decent linebackers to take rays player, there arent many QB's with a talented upside.

Skins fan 44 02-12-2006 01:03 PM

Re: Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?
 
Ramsey may not reach his prime, or he is past his prime-which didnt last long.

diehardskin2982 02-12-2006 01:24 PM

Re: Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?
 
Ray Lewis isn't drawing much attention because he's old ~ 10 years in the league, comming off of injury who's gonna give a 1st for a player like that? nobody... Ramsey's gonna get more value. QB' s don't come along everyday. MLB's will apear on the team before a good QB will

jdlea 02-12-2006 01:26 PM

Re: Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?
 
Wow, what's really interesting about that is I was just telling my brother the other day that there have been a lot of NFL scouts on the Tulane Campus this week. Tulane only really has one guy that I could see garnering this kind of attention and his name is Anthony Cannon. He's a MLB. The teams that I've seen are the: Ravens, Colts, Jags and Cowboys.

I thought it was very strange that the Ravens would be here considering they have Lewis, but I figured maybe it was cause he's on the downside of the hill and they wanted a long term solution.

skinsfanthru&thru 02-12-2006 02:13 PM

Re: Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?
 
age and contracts r a big reason he probably isn't garnering much in trade talks and he's also coming off a somewhat serious injury after a pretty down year. and history has shown that the position most teams r willing to take a chance by giving up something maybe a little higher in value than they should is QB. I mean look at the Dolphins and AJ Feely :hitfan:

it's too bad the team didn't get rid of Ramsey when we still could have easily gotten a 1st rounder for him since the last 2 years his trade value has dramatically dropped.

Mattyk 02-12-2006 02:25 PM

Re: Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?
 
I wouldn't write off Lewis just yet, he was injured last year but the year before he had 146 tackles.

I think he's still got a few good years left, but you can't blame the Ravens for looking to get out from under his contract.

dmek25 02-12-2006 05:18 PM

Re: Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?
 
lewis is no longer amongst the elite linebackers in this league,especially considering the salary he is going to command.and until campbell is ready to go,ramsey isnt going anywhere

BrudLee 02-12-2006 06:07 PM

Re: Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?
 
The reason it's hard to trade Lewis is the same reason (well, almost the same) it's hard for the Eagles to trade TO. The contract you'd inherit is outrageous.

The fact that he's on the blocks indicates he might get cut, which means he'd be out there for nothing. The Ravens haven't (yet) given him permission to find a new deal, so whoever trades anything for Lewis may be forced to abide by the contract he has. Unless a team knew they could substantially reduce his salary, he isn't worth trading for at all.

onebum 02-12-2006 10:38 PM

Re: Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?
 
They tried to trade him before last season and couldn't get anything better than a 2nd round draft pick offered for him. It had nothing to do with the contract the team would be getting with him, its the fact he wanted "peyton manning type money" and no one is gonna pay him that at this time in his career.

He was great a few years ago, but in recent years he's an undersized middle linebacker with several injuries in recent years, and he isn't the highlight reel he used to be. Think about it, how often was he shown this season...and its not just because the ravens were losing. Folks still talk about him like he's the greatest, but they are talking about the Lewis from 3 or 5 years ago.

Well, thats my .02 but I think you got ripped off. Basically, he wants out because he wants huge money, and no one is gonna pay huge money to a guy they picked up for a 2nd round draft pick.


Da Bum

Schneed10 02-12-2006 11:24 PM

Re: Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72][/b]

Doesn't look good for our chances to get a high pick for Ramsey if someone like Ray Lewis isn't drawing more interest than just a 2nd rounder.[/QUOTE]

Of course, age and contract have everything to do with that. Ramsey is a heck of a lot younger than Ray. Of course, Ramsey is not even close to the level Ray Lewis is.

I still say 4th rounder sounds right for Ramsey, 3rd if we're fortunate.

70Chip 02-13-2006 02:12 PM

Re: Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10]Of course, age and contract have everything to do with that. Ramsey is a heck of a lot younger than Ray. Of course, Ramsey is not even close to the level Ray Lewis is.

I still say 4th rounder sounds right for Ramsey, 3rd if we're fortunate.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Third rounder would be a tremendous coup. The other opt ion might be to throw in extras with Ramsey (picks or players) to get a 2nd or late 1st, though we would probably get held up in this sort of deal.

Linebacker is a young man's position. Lewis would be well advised to take a decent offer and stay in Baltimore. He will not get the treatment that he is used to anywhere else. Those dumb SOBs in Maryland think he commands the dawn and they can keep him. Nobody else wants to deal with his bullshit.

TheMalcolmConnection 02-13-2006 02:18 PM

Re: Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?
 
And I don't wanna' see that dance. :doh:

onebum 02-13-2006 09:57 PM

Re: Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?
 
That dance...folks make a big deal because Moss, the randy not the Santana, acted like he mooned the crowd. Yet somehom lewis' dance is great, and shows his passion for the game? what crap...not suprising though, everything I see from the guy makes me think the only class he ever had included a teacher.


Da Bum


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