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MTK 02-17-2006 10:04 PM

Cap Sheets updated
 
Crazy Canuck's latest installment of his world famous [url="http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm"]cap sheets[/url] are now up for your number crunching enjoyment. :)

Defensewins 02-17-2006 10:44 PM

Re: Cap Sheets updated
 
Matt Bowen $2.4M salary but only $400K release fee.
Brandon Noble $2.6M salary but only $930K release fee.
Cory Raymer $1.1M salary but only $133K release fee.

The first two are logical cap saving cuts, they are as good as gone. Cory is most likely gone, but Buges may lobby to keep him.

44deisel44 02-17-2006 10:58 PM

Re: Cap Sheets updated
 
Does the entire release fee have to go on that year's cap (dead money) or can it be strung over multiple years like a bonus?

70Chip 02-17-2006 10:59 PM

Re: Cap Sheets updated
 
[QUOTE=Defensewins]Matt Bowen $2.4M salary but only $400K release fee.
Brandon Noble $2.6M salary but only $930K release fee.
Cory Raymer $1.1M salary but only $133K release fee.

The first two are logical cap saving cuts, they are as good as gone. Cory is most likely gone, but Buges may lobby to keep him.[/QUOTE]

Does Buges like him that much? I would classify cutting Raymer not as "logical", or "super-logical", but as "super-duper-logical".

70Chip 02-17-2006 11:03 PM

Re: Cap Sheets updated
 
[QUOTE=44deisel44]Does the entire release fee have to go on that year's cap (dead money) or can it be strung over multiple years like a bonus?[/QUOTE]

I think it's a one year thing. From Canuck's notes:

[i]2. ReleaseFees - lists each player's cap hit, followed by his "release fee" in that given year. The release fee represents the amount of dead money that would be incurred by releasing/trading the player prior to the year in question (before June 1st).[/i]

Gmanc711 02-17-2006 11:04 PM

Re: Cap Sheets updated
 
If we release a player AFTER June 1st, dosent it go onto next years cap?

MTK 02-17-2006 11:09 PM

Re: Cap Sheets updated
 
After Raymer's miserable postseason appearance against Seattle, I think it's obvious the Skins can be much better and for a lot less $$.

CrazyCanuck 02-17-2006 11:52 PM

Re: Cap Sheets updated
 
[QUOTE=Gmanc711]If we release a player AFTER June 1st, dosent it go onto next years cap?[/QUOTE]

The 2006 portion of the release fee would count against the 2006 cap, and the rest would go to 2007. But there's no June 1st rule this year unless there's a new CBA.

That's a good idea though. I'm gonna add a "post 6/1 release fee" column to my sheets in the next update.

Gmanc711 02-17-2006 11:55 PM

Re: Cap Sheets updated
 
I read this on ES and was wondering if anyone here actually knew....

What exactly do they do you if you dont get under the cap? Throw you in football jail? Not let you compete? I mean how would that work if we were just to say, "you know what, were good"?

That Guy 02-18-2006 01:19 AM

Re: Cap Sheets updated
 
[QUOTE=Gmanc711]I read this on ES and was wondering if anyone here actually knew....

What exactly do they do you if you dont get under the cap? Throw you in football jail? Not let you compete? I mean how would that work if we were just to say, "you know what, were good"?[/QUOTE]

you can't. the NFL has to sign off on every contract i believe, so you couldn't sign anyone else and i guess they could DQ you from every game until you're under the cap if they wanted...

saden1 02-18-2006 11:14 AM

Re: Cap Sheets updated
 
[QUOTE=Gmanc711]I read this on ES and was wondering if anyone here actually knew....

What exactly do they do you if you dont get under the cap? Throw you in football jail? Not let you compete? I mean how would that work if we were just to say, "you know what, were good"?[/QUOTE]

The NFL is bigger than any one team. A renegade owner will not be successful in the league (i.e. Al Davis). As it is currently structured the NFL is a business unit with its own power structure. It runs games on game day and does the administration work for NFL teams and that includes making sure all the teams play fair. If you don't get under the cap 1) you'll be finned to death, 2) lose draft picks, 3) forfeit games before you even step on the field.

djnemo65 02-18-2006 11:18 AM

Re: Cap Sheets updated
 
The Broncos were over the cap either last year or this year, and I seem to remember them only having to forfeit a second or third round pick. If I recall, some people in the media were upset that the penalty was not more severe. Does anyone else remember this?

saden1 02-18-2006 11:35 AM

Re: Cap Sheets updated
 
[QUOTE=djnemo65]The Broncos were over the cap either last year or this year, and I seem to remember them only having to forfeit a second or third round pick. If I recall, some people in the media were upset that the penalty was not more severe. Does anyone else remember this?[/QUOTE]

Indeed I do. [url=http://www.sportsbooks.com/news/sports_betting/68883.html]The punishment was BS.[/url]

That Guy 02-18-2006 02:01 PM

Re: Cap Sheets updated
 
i dont think the were ever officially over the cap, but they got people to take pay cuts by agreeing to pay them under the table and off the books (even if they got cut or retired, it was 2 players i think). It sucks that it took them 6+ years to figure it out though... unless they're allowed to monitor all financial accounts of all players coaches and owners, its hard to spot colusion (though looking at voluntary pay cuts is the most likely sign).

Pocono 02-18-2006 04:21 PM

Re: Cap Sheets updated
 
CC....IMO Albright doesn't qualify for the vet subsidy because he was under contract when he was re-signed so he probably counts 770K against the cap. They should have waited until after 3/1 to re-sign him.

[i]Qualifying Contracts (defined)[/i]

Player must have at least four credited seasons and must have either:

[indent](a) A new, one-year contract at the minimum signed after previous contract had either expired or been terminated; or
(b) A continuing, multi-year contract signed before December 1, 2001 that calls for payment of the applicable minimum in 2002.


Also those expecting a quick easy cut of Noble yeilding the full cut value may be disappointed because he's still under contract and not healthy enough to cut without an injury settlement. They probably hope he'll retire but why do that and give up the injury settlement?
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