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Schneed10 10-15-2006 10:46 PM

Starting Campbell Now Makes Cap Sense
 
This is a Campbell vs Brunell discussion, like so many others already on this board. But I wanted to take a salary cap angle at this situation, which I felt may be deserving of it's own thread.

With the team 2-4 and needing to go 8-2 from here on in order to make the playoffs, it doesn't make sense to let Mark Brunell continue to run the team.

Brunell will count $6.6 million against the cap if he's on the roster in 2007. If we cut him before June 1, he'll have a dead cap hit of 4.3 million in 2007, representing a savings of $2.3 million. If we cut him after June 1, he'll count only $1.5 million (approx) in 2007, a savings of about $5 million compared to the $6.6 million he'd count if on the roster.

Given the opportunity to gain cap space next season, and given his inability to lead the offense to victories, the Redskins would be wise to turn to Jason Campbell and allow him to learn the offense in the 10 remaining games this season. He'd hopefully be more prepared to run a more cohesive unit next year that can consistently threaten the deep and center seam portions of the field.

Brunell's career as a Redskin should end now. I'm officially off the Brunell bandwagon. Give me JC. And use Brunell's cap space for a CB who can cover worth a darn.

hooskins 10-15-2006 10:48 PM

Re: Starting Campbell Now Makes Cap Sense
 
Good point.

soccercycbk 10-15-2006 10:52 PM

Re: Starting Campbell Now Makes Cap Sense
 
I'd like to have Brunell as a number 2 quarterback next season. If Campbell were to start from here on out, i can see mark volunteering to take a salary cut.

Schneed10 10-15-2006 10:52 PM

Re: Starting Campbell Now Makes Cap Sense
 
PS Mods, feel free to merge this if you feel appropriate.

Beemnseven 10-15-2006 10:54 PM

Re: Starting Campbell Now Makes Cap Sense
 
Can you send this to Joe Gibbs? This'll make him change his ways.

Seriously, it's just not going to happen. It'll take two broken legs for Joe to pull Mark. We hear it all the time, but it's true -- putting Campbell in now would send the message to the team that the season is over.

As a fan, I want it to happen. But I have no financial interest in the team, nor have I spent every waking hour trying to make the best out of THIS year. And anyone who's given as much time and energy to this team as these coaches have isn't about to give up on 2006 the way fans are.

It will take a House page scandal for Gibbs to pull Brunell. And even then it still wouldn't matter.

skinsguy 10-15-2006 10:56 PM

Re: Starting Campbell Now Makes Cap Sense
 
If we end up 7-9 or worse, then the latter that you have mentioned would be the obvious best choice, however I believe Brunell would probably stick around next year, regardless as to who starts. I doubt we'd see Campbell next week, although stranger things have happened (take today's loss for example.)

I really don't see this coaching staff throwing in the towel at this point. Maybe after 6 losses though.

Schneed10 10-15-2006 11:01 PM

Re: Starting Campbell Now Makes Cap Sense
 
[quote=Beemnseven;229121]Can you send this to Joe Gibbs? This'll make him change his ways.

Seriously, it's just not going to happen. It'll take two broken legs for Joe to pull Mark. We hear it all the time, but it's true -- putting Campbell in now would send the message to the team that the season is over.

As a fan, I want it to happen. But I have no financial interest in the team, nor have I spent every waking hour trying to make the best out of THIS year. And anyone who's given as much time and energy to this team as these coaches have isn't about to give up on 2006 the way fans are.

It will take a House page scandal for Gibbs to pull Brunell. And even then it still wouldn't matter.[/quote]

You're right, good post. Benching Brunell for Campbell now does send a quitting type of message to the team. You don't want to send that message because it could linger with the players into next season and cause other problems. They want the coaching staff to believe in them and give them the chance to win.

Maybe Gibbs will make the move after we're mathematically eliminated. I can only hope.

PS Realistically I'm definitely not liking our playoff chances. Of course, just like the players, I hope we don't give up, and I'm holding out hope that we can actually go on the amazing 8-2 run we need, even if it's really unlikely.

saskin 10-15-2006 11:05 PM

Re: Starting Campbell Now Makes Cap Sense
 
[quote=Beemnseven;229121]Can you send this to Joe Gibbs? This'll make him change his ways.

Seriously, it's just not going to happen. [B]It'll take two broken legs for Joe to pull Mark.[/B] We hear it all the time, but it's true -- putting Campbell in now would send the message to the team that the season is over.

As a fan, I want it to happen. But I have no financial interest in the team, nor have I spent every waking hour trying to make the best out of THIS year. And anyone who's given as much time and energy to this team as these coaches have isn't about to give up on 2006 the way fans are.

It will take a House page scandal for Gibbs to pull Brunell. And even then it still wouldn't matter.[/quote]

Nonsense! I'm sure we could equip him with a wheelchair!

soccercycbk 10-15-2006 11:15 PM

Re: Starting Campbell Now Makes Cap Sense
 
[quote=Beemnseven;229121]putting Campbell in now would send the message to the team that the season is over.[/quote]

I disagree. The coaches are going to put in whatever qb gives us the best shot at winning, and the players recognize that so i don't think there would be any negative message other than to mark. Regardless of whose out there, the WR's are going to run their routes, the o-line is going to block just as hard, and the rb is gonna hit the holes just the same. It comes down to the qb making plays, and if Jason is in and can do that, it will re-energize this team.

railcon56 10-16-2006 12:12 AM

Re: Starting Campbell Now Makes Cap Sense
 
[quote=Beemnseven;229121]Seriously, it's just not going to happen. It'll take two broken legs for Joe to pull Mark. .[/quote]
And maybe a separated left shoulder too... before he pulls him

railcon56 10-16-2006 12:14 AM

Re: Starting Campbell Now Makes Cap Sense
 
[quote=saskin;229136]Nonsense! I'm sure we could equip him with a wheelchair![/quote]



:laughing-

Longtimefan 10-16-2006 12:50 AM

Re: Starting Campbell Now Makes Cap Sense
 
[QUOTE=soccercycbk;229144]I disagree. The coaches are going to put in whatever qb gives us the best shot at winning, and the players recognize that so i don't think there would be any negative message other than to mark. Regardless of whose out there, the WR's are going to run their routes, the o-line is going to block just as hard, and the rb is gonna hit the holes just the same. It comes down to the qb making plays, and if Jason is in and can do that, it will re-energize this team.[/QUOTE]



There was quite a bit of booing going on out there today. If we loose to Indy next sunday and turn in a simular effort against Dallas the following week (after the bye) there's going to be mutiny at Fed-Ex and JG is going to have to consider making some changes. The players on this team know what time it is, and they're not going to publicly criticize each other but they know where the real problems lye.

SmootSmack 10-16-2006 01:01 AM

Re: Starting Campbell Now Makes Cap Sense
 
[QUOTE=Longtimefan;229178]There was quite a bit of booing going on out there today. If we loose to Indy next sunday and turn in a simular effort against Dallas the following week (after the bye) there's going to be mutiny at Fed-Ex and JG is going to have to consider making some changes. The players on this team know what time it is, and they're not going to publicly criticize each other but they know where the real problems lye.[/QUOTE]

What makes you say that? Why do so many people think the players are all talking behind Brunell's back pointing to him as the sole problem?

mike340 10-16-2006 01:37 AM

Re: Starting Campbell Now Makes Cap Sense
 
I forget. How many points did Peyton Manning put up last week against the Titans?

[QUOTE=TAFKAS;229183]What makes you say that? Why do so many people think the players are all talking behind Brunell's back pointing to him as the sole problem?[/QUOTE]

JGisLordOfTheRings 10-16-2006 02:27 AM

Re: Starting Campbell Now Makes Cap Sense
 
[quote=mike340;229189]I forget. How many points did Peyton Manning put up last week against the Titans?[/quote]


And how bad did those SAME TITANS, SHIT kick us in the nuts today???


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