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MTK 10-24-2006 08:33 PM

Cap Sheets Update 10/18/06
 
Crazy Canuck's latest installment of his world famous cap sheets are now up for your cap crunching pleasure.

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm[/url]

Pocket$ $traight 10-24-2006 08:37 PM

Re: Cap Sheets Update 10/18/06
 
They could save 2.6MM by releasing Jansen. He may want to step it up...

They save by cutting Hall and Brunell (Thank you Jebus!)

Springs may be steep at 7MM too but he will probably restructure.

It looks like they can make some moves next year if they want to. <sigh>

This is definitely one of my favorite parts of the site.

hooskins 10-24-2006 08:54 PM

Re: Cap Sheets Update 10/18/06
 
[quote=Grim21Reaper;234046]They could save 2.6MM by releasing Jansen. He may want to step it up...

They save by cutting Hall and Brunell (Thank you Jebus!)

Springs may be steep at 7MM too but he will probably restructure.

It looks like they can make some moves next year if they want to. <sigh>

This is definitely one of my favorite parts of the site.[/quote]

I think changing our Oline is the last thing we need to do. Jansen hasn't been at the top, but he knows the line, better than bringing in a FA.

Pocket$ $traight 10-24-2006 08:58 PM

Re: Cap Sheets Update 10/18/06
 
[quote=hooskins;234056]I think changing our Oline is the last thing we need to do. Jansen hasn't been at the top, but he knows the line, better than bringing in a FA.[/quote]

Jansen, especially, has been a liability this year (he gets burned with tight ends chipping). I see a hundred posts a day on how the line play needs to improve.

I think we need to bring in young line talent through the draft to push these guys but I don't consider any of them irreplaceable.

Unless he turns it around, Jansen is definitely gone in '08 when it would save us 5MM.

hooskins 10-24-2006 09:01 PM

Re: Cap Sheets Update 10/18/06
 
[quote=Grim21Reaper;234060]Jansen, especially, has been a liability this year (he gets burned with tight ends chipping). I see a hundred posts a day on how the line play needs to improve.

I think we need to bring in young line talent through the draft to push these guys but I don't consider any of them irreplaceable.

Unless he turns it around, Jansen is definitely gone in '08 when it would save us 5MM.[/quote]

Jansen is getting blow on pass rush, as is Samuels(see Indy game), but removing them isn't gonna do us any good. If we go back to running a bit more, I think the complains about Jansen and Samuels will decrease.

I see how it would save money, but fresh people for the line won't make it better. Just look at 3-4 years ago, and before, when our Line sucked because of the lack of continuity.

Pocket$ $traight 10-24-2006 09:11 PM

Re: Cap Sheets Update 10/18/06
 
[quote=hooskins;234062]Jansen is getting blow on pass rush, as is Samuels(see Indy game), but removing them isn't gonna do us any good. If we go back to running a bit more, I think the complains about Jansen and Samuels will decrease.

I see how it would save money, but fresh people for the line won't make it better. Just look at 3-4 years ago, and before, when our Line sucked because of the lack of continuity.[/quote]


Hooskins, the line sucks now. They are just about as bad as they were 3 or 4 years ago.

The difference between Samuels and Jansen is one, Samuels cannot be cut with his cap number. Two, Samuels is getting beat straight up, Jansen is getting beat with help from a tight end.

Our bookends suck right now. I think that having more talent overshadows losing some continuity by cutting a player who cannot do his job.

RobH4413 10-24-2006 10:58 PM

Re: Cap Sheets Update 10/18/06
 
[quote=Grim21Reaper;234065]Hooskins, the line sucks now. They are just about as bad as they were 3 or 4 years ago.

The difference between Samuels and Jansen is one, Samuels cannot be cut with his cap number. Two, Samuels is getting beat straight up, Jansen is getting beat with help from a tight end.

Our bookends suck right now. I think that having more talent overshadows losing some continuity by cutting a player who cannot do his job.[/quote]
Yeah, I can say the line may need some room for improvement. My football knowledge curves down a little when talking about the line (which is a shame because they're so important) I simply know what I hear from others.

From those that I've talked to who know about our o-line, the general vibe has been that they're looking suspect, but then again what position hasn't? It's hard to judge they're talent IMO because of the total lack of production across the board on both sides. It's like some complex math equation with a million variables and theories...

Thank God I'm no coach.

jsarno 10-24-2006 11:42 PM

Re: Cap Sheets Update 10/18/06
 
When exactly are we going to cut that piece of crap Hall? He is useless! We need to go out and get a QUALITY kicker!

Springs will restructure, if not, bye, bye.

Jansen is a quality tackle. Sure he hasn't been his usual self, but I think we are jumping on the o-line unjustly. Brunell is making the o-line look bad by holding on to the ball too long.

hooskins 10-25-2006 12:23 AM

Re: Cap Sheets Update 10/18/06
 
[quote=jsarno;234115]When exactly are we going to cut that piece of crap Hall? He is useless! We need to go out and get a QUALITY kicker!

Springs will restructure, if not, bye, bye.

Jansen is a quality tackle. Sure he hasn't been his usual self, but I think we are jumping on the o-line unjustly. Brunell is making the o-line look bad by holding on to the ball too long.[/quote]

I think so as well.

SmootSmack 10-25-2006 12:26 AM

Re: Cap Sheets Update 10/18/06
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;234115]When exactly are we going to cut that piece of crap Hall? He is useless! We need to go out and get a QUALITY kicker!

Springs will restructure, if not, bye, bye.

Jansen is a quality tackle. Sure he hasn't been his usual self, but I think we are jumping on the o-line unjustly. Brunell is making the o-line look bad by holding on to the ball too long.[/QUOTE]

I thought the complaint was that he gets rid of the ball too quickly.

CrazyCanuck 10-25-2006 12:37 AM

Re: Cap Sheets Update 10/18/06
 
Note that I'm still missing signing bonus info for Rocky, Novak, and Vincent.

I also added a 2007 version of the totals at the bottom of the cap summary page. :rolleyes:

That Guy 10-25-2006 03:47 AM

Re: Cap Sheets Update 10/18/06
 
novak and vincent must be vet mins with nearly no SB. rocky i think would get 1-2mill...

dmek25 10-25-2006 07:00 AM

Re: Cap Sheets Update 10/18/06
 
hoo is right on the money. if the skins go back to running the football, both Samuels and Jansen play will look better to everyone. and so far, both of their play has been sub par

61cad 10-25-2006 11:55 AM

Re: Cap Sheets Update 10/18/06
 
[quote=jsarno;234115]When exactly are we going to cut that piece of crap Hall? He is useless! We need to go out and get a QUALITY kicker!

Springs will restructure, if not, bye, bye.

Jansen is a quality tackle. Sure he hasn't been his usual self, but I think we are jumping on the o-line unjustly. Brunell is making the o-line look bad by holding on to the ball too long.[/quote]


Why not draft a kicker?

Hall is done! (do I dare say "injury prone") LOL

BDBohnzie 10-25-2006 12:14 PM

Re: Cap Sheets Update 10/18/06
 
Why draft a kicker? there are like 14 Zendajas brothers out there, plus a Jose Cortez, and we could always go find Chip Lohmiller.

There will be some FA kickers available in the offseason. Plus most decent kickers actually don't get drafted, and will be available for cheaper after the draft.


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