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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 06-12-2004 01:50 PM

We're Not Leading the League in Dead Money!

Wow! San Fran has $27 million in dead money and San Diego has $22 million in dead money. The Skins have about $6 million in dead money.

skins009 06-12-2004 05:46 PM

We will be in a couplel of years, just wait.

Hogskin 06-12-2004 05:54 PM

Don't sweat the "couple years" from now that some of the journalists keep harping on. They were saying the EXACT same thing 3-4 years ago when we signed Deion, Bruce and the others. It seems that one thing Snyder's front office team knows how to do VERY well is manage the cap. They know how to play the game. It is extremely unlikely we will get into SF's type of trouble. The Redskins will renegotiate some contracts and make one or two KEY trades each year starting 2 years from now. (Trades similar to the Bailey/Portis deal). Then the cap hits get shoved back a couple more years (again). This works, and some writers have not figured it out yet.

Oh yeah - and don't forget the TV contracts are going to be renegotiated (I think for 2006). Expectations are for a big revenue increase. This will, in turn, drive the cap up quite a bit. Nobody ever seems to mention that when they write about the 2006 demise of the Redskins. Joe Prisco of Sportsline is notorious for calling for the Redskin collapse in 2006. He also dissed the Patriots all through the season last year. Facts don't bother some of these guys.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 06-12-2004 06:48 PM

Excellent post HogSkin. The credit is all yours for pointing out the TV contract-salary cap link. Here's what ESPN reported awhile back.

"NFL officials confirmed Friday evening that the league will not reopen the $17.6 billion contract with its various television partners, which means the rights fees are set now through the expiration of the eight-year pact after the 2005 season.

Under the contract, negotiated in 1998, the NFL retained the option to essentially void the final three years of the deal and reopen negotiations with the networks. The deadline for such a move is Feb. 15, but that date will pass without the league exercising its option."

SmootSmack 06-12-2004 07:22 PM

If I remember right, in addition to the new TV contract, the Redskins themselves have a lot of corporate sponsorships that were set to expire at the end of this season. With Gibbs back in the fold FedEx now more than ever is the place to be in the DC area. So the Redskins can definitely drive up the fees for new sponsorships, whether with the current companies or new ones. That money can then be used for signing bonuses.

But regardless, I agree with Hogskins. I don't know what the benefit is of worrying about two years from now. Let's say the Skins win the Super Bowl this season, would we all be sitting around moping that "yeah we spent the money and got the title but what will it matter in two years" or if we spent conservatively and finished 8-8 would we all be sitting around saying "well at least we won't be in cap hell in two years. To paraphrase Herman Edwards "You spend to win the game"

SKINSnCANES 06-13-2004 02:14 AM

I wont care about two years from now for two years. When im watching the games this year all that will be going through my mind is win win win. I wont be sitting there thinking "this season doesnt matter because we are playing for two years from now." In this league its season to season, with free agency teams get broken up all the time which is why coachign is so important. I feel, as do most of you, we have the best coach in the league, and enough talent to go with it so lets freakign win this year. Yea we dont have a dline, but name a team that won a superbowl in the last 30 years that didtn have a weak spot in the begining of the season.

JWsleep 06-13-2004 12:32 PM

It will take some creative work by Danny-boy and co., a decent cap increase (which is going to happen; it's just a question of how much), and the restructuring or release of several important players, but I believe they'll be fine when it all comes down after 2006. Injuries are the real wild card, but everyone has that problem. I do think Danny is pretty into the cap stuff, and that he's not a bad business man when it comes to that sort of thing. Also, Gibbs claims it's a long-term plan, and he is not known to lie. But we'll see!

Drift Reality 06-13-2004 03:14 PM

For a while, I was fairly pessimistic about the situation 2 years from now; but one thing that Snyder has been fairly good at, is the business side of the NFL.

I have a feeling he will find a way to retain much of the young talent and renegotiate some of the larger contracts with the veterans.

That being said, I do think that at some point, we're going to probably be looking at Samuels or Arrington being cut or traded due to their respective salary situations.

Big C 06-13-2004 05:11 PM

snyder is a very intelligent man. He has increased the value of the redskins by at least 200 million dollars since his purchase of the team. Do not doubt his buisness skills and intelligence, he knows the cap system very well i have no doubt

Daseal 06-13-2004 11:10 PM

SNyder is one of the best owners in the NFL, in my opinion. He's willing to acquire talent and work hard with agents to get deals done. As everyone else has said he's a business guru and understands how to work things.

However, I'd rather worry about the future now, unlike some of you. I want a new Headcoach in grooming, along with some young guys ready to play. I don't want to piss PR of and be without a QB in two years, when his contract comes up. Things like that which we CAN control we should.

Hogskin 06-14-2004 12:09 AM

[QUOTE=Daseal]However, I'd rather worry about the future now, unlike some of you. I want a new Headcoach in grooming, along with some young guys ready to play. I don't want to piss PR of and be without a QB in two years, when his contract comes up. Things like that which we CAN control we should.[/QUOTE]

Fortunately, Snyder and Gibbs are not running the team based on doing whatever it takes to "not piss Patrick Ramsey off". As we already saw, that is pretty much impossible, anyway. I'm sure they will continue to do everything they can to keep him in a good frame of mind, but you can not make your personnel decisions based on the whims of one prima donna. You do what is best for the team in the short term AND long term. They seem to be doing that. If they were trying not to piss off Ramsey, we would not have Brunell.

Drift Reality 06-14-2004 09:47 AM

Don't know if I'd call Ramsey a prima donna. If the Dallas game last year showed anything, it was that he is one of the toughest s.o.b's in the league.

I think he wasn't complaining about bringing in someone to compete for the job so much as he was complaining about not being given a fair chance to earn the job.

As soon as Gibbs made it an open competition, he shut his mouth.

I hope Ramsey wins out and starts because I think he has the potential to be a top 5 guy in the NFL.

I'm also glad that if he goes down, we would have someone who could come in and run the offense.

MTK 06-14-2004 10:40 AM

Maybe the FO knows a little bit more about managing the cap then some of us want to give them credit for?

Hogskin 06-14-2004 10:43 AM

Well, maybe prima donna was a bit strong, but that term certainly does not imply that he is not TOUGH. I agree he is. It referred to his reaction to the Brunell situation. My recollection of that is different than yours. I remember it going on for a couple weeks, even after repeated statements that it was open competition. My impression also was that the only thing that quieted him down was a combination of the absolute statements that he was NOT going to be traded, and the massive negative feedback his comments were generating. I am concerned that there may be a renewed round of negativism if he does not win the job.

Matty, yes. I believe they are among the best in the NFL in that department.

Big C 06-14-2004 11:06 AM

start ramsey please

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