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skinsguy 12-06-2006 08:45 PM

What type of offense do you like to see?
 
Okay, maybe to better understand others' point of view as to what they expect from our offense, I was wondering what type of offense do you like to see on the field? An explosive offense that scores quickly with bombs on every drive or hard nosed time consuming offenses that maybe not score alot of points, but muscles their way over the defense?

I think I tend to be in between. I think football is about toughness and not finesse so much. I like offenses who run the ball down the defense's throat and once the defense is on the ropes, you hit them with the knock out punch ---- big play action pass to your WR on a go pattern! I like offenses who can chew up 8 or 9 minutes of the clock. To be honest, I wouldn't mind us winning 3-0 in every ball game as long as we win.

So tell me about your favorite offense?

SKINSnCANES 12-06-2006 09:11 PM

Re: What type of offense do you like to see?
 
I want an offense that tries to score on every drive. And dont say that every offense tries to score on every drive because I think thats crap. We try and milk the clock, hold onto the ball.

Yes, you need to run to control the clock, i agree, but you should make calls to try and score. I dotn car eif you are up by 28, you never know. The colts have the best offense, they can run or pass, but the point is they call plays to win. They dotn play any different with a lead, thats what i want. i want consistency

Beemnseven 12-06-2006 09:16 PM

Re: What type of offense do you like to see?
 
I just get tired of people who say we need to get back to "smashmouth" football -- as if we're supposed to have a 50-to-10 run to pass ratio.

Even with the Hogs and John Riggins at their peak, Joe Gibbs' teams were not the pre-Bill Callahan Nebraska Cornhuskers.

Good offenses can run at will, and pass when they need to. Give Campbell more time to learn, and try to instill in this offensive line that yes, sometimes they will be called upon to pass block (which apparently, they find repugnant), and Saunders will have this team in chemistry.

And I don't care what the score is -- if we get the ball back with a minute or so before halftime, enough of the draw plays -- TRY TO SCORE.

I always admired the '99 Rams -- they could do it all.

44_Riggins_44 12-06-2006 09:16 PM

Re: What type of offense do you like to see?
 
smashmouth football is the way to go, i like the offense we saw for the first 20 minutes of the falcons game. pound the hell outa them with the run then set up the pass. original skins ball baby!

RobH4413 12-06-2006 09:17 PM

Re: What type of offense do you like to see?
 
I love an exciting offense, but more importantly an unpredictable one. I wish we could come out each week and make the defenses clueless. Be able to smash a team in the mouth for 200+ rushing yards, yet the next game throw for 350+... it would be nice.

Mabye one day.... just mabye.

44_Riggins_44 12-06-2006 09:21 PM

Re: What type of offense do you like to see?
 
beem, i dont think it should be 50-10 as you said, but definitly a little more on the run side. i mean our line is built for it, not that little triple reverse, halfback pass stuff. if we run the ball consistantly right at them and pick up yardage, one itl set up the pass, to the defense will eventually just give out.

44_Riggins_44 12-06-2006 09:22 PM

Re: What type of offense do you like to see?
 
[quote=RobH4413;256841]I love an exciting offense, but more importantly an unpredictable one. I wish we could come out each week and make the defenses clueless. Be able to smash a team in the mouth for 200+ rushing yards, yet the next game throw for 350+... it would be nice.

Mabye one day.... just mabye.[/quote]

so basically a maddeon 07 offense?

hooskins 12-06-2006 09:23 PM

Re: What type of offense do you like to see?
 
[quote=SKINSnCANES;256838]I want an offense that tries to score on every drive. And dont say that every offense tries to score on every drive because I think thats crap. We try and milk the clock, hold onto the ball.

Yes, you need to run to control the clock, i agree, but you should make calls to try and score. I dotn car eif you are up by 28, you never know. The colts have the best offense, they can run or pass, but the point is they call plays to win. They dotn play any different with a lead, thats what i want. i want consistency[/quote]
Exactly, I am glad I am not the only one who thinks like this. Just running the ball a million times just eats up clock, BUT it keeps teams in the game. I kinda admire how Al wanted to finish off the Falcons last game, but unfortunately the plays could not be executed.

As the great Herm once said "You play to win the game" lol. Period, you dont play to hold your lead and milk the clock like a little baby. You go all out and try to destroy teams.

Back in the day Gibbs offense did run alot, but they passed too, and they always finished off teams(see the scores of games from those season, most are like 40-10). That doesnt seem like a team that just runs all the time.

44_Riggins_44 12-06-2006 09:27 PM

Re: What type of offense do you like to see?
 
one thing is for certain, we need an offense that averages over 21 points a game

hooskins 12-06-2006 09:31 PM

Re: What type of offense do you like to see?
 
[quote=44_Riggins_44;256846]one thing is for certain, we need an offense that averages over 21 points a game[/quote]
amen.

mike340 12-06-2006 09:56 PM

Re: What type of offense do you like to see?
 
I would like to see an offense that can take what the defense gives. In addition I would like Saunders to change one of the rules he has for selecting plays. Instead of never reusing a play in 6(?) games. He should allow plays that have high probability of success to be run multiple times until the opposing team shows they can actually stop it. The Falcons have the worst run defense in the NFL. In our first two series we only called two passes. In both series our worst 3 rushes would have netted us a first down. When he started calling other stuff (passes and razzle-dazzle plays starting with the reverse in the third series) I had the feeling he was calling other types of plays because he didn't want to "overwork" that part of the playbook. So I want an offense that can exploit mismatches with the defense and that gains yardage consistently enough so that it can score (a lot of) points.

Big C 12-06-2006 09:58 PM

Re: What type of offense do you like to see?
 
pounding running game that wears down defenses and sets up play action passing deep

JGisLordOfTheRings 12-06-2006 10:11 PM

Re: What type of offense do you like to see?
 
Destructive run game-between the tackles more than not. Lots of running but it all sets up PA. Go for the throat. We should've stepped on Atlanta like we did the 49's last year ( no offense Rexi). Swarming defense like that of last years playoff run. Good defense WILL WIN YOU GAMES! PERIOD! Couple that with a potent offense that controls the clock and gashes defenses in both ways, air and ground.

Perfect.

08 maybe??


HTTR!!

skinsfan69 12-06-2006 10:22 PM

Re: What type of offense do you like to see?
 
[quote=Beemnseven;256839]I just get tired of people who say we need to get back to "smashmouth" football -- as if we're supposed to have a 50-to-10 run to pass ratio.

Even with the Hogs and John Riggins at their peak, Joe Gibbs' teams were not the pre-Bill Callahan Nebraska Cornhuskers.

Good offenses can run at will, and pass when they need to. Give Campbell more time to learn, and try to instill in this offensive line that yes, sometimes they will be called upon to pass block (which apparently, they find repugnant), and Saunders will have this team in chemistry.

And I don't care what the score is -- if we get the ball back with a minute or so before halftime, enough of the draw plays -- TRY TO SCORE.

I always admired the '99 Rams -- they could do it all.[/quote]


This is a good point. I get so tired of all the Skins fans saying we must run to win. Run run run. I agree to a point. Sometimes teams will dare you to throw it by stacking the line. What if a team ( like Minnesota ) is tough against the run but weak against the pass? NE gave a blueprint on how to beat the Minn. defense. We sure did not try and throw on them at all. Are we just going to try and run, run and run some more??? Bottom line is we are not scoring enough TD's!!! Are we ever going to have an offense where we can spread teams out and throw? With the old Gibbs it was run first but you knew some deep passes were coming. New Gibbs? Sometimes I don't even know who this guy is anymore. I would like to see more passing. You pass to score and you run to win!

MTK 12-06-2006 10:49 PM

Re: What type of offense do you like to see?
 
More than anything, "smashmouth" is a mentality. It's tough guy football, it doesn't mean you can only run the ball, it's just the mentality of a tough team IMO.


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