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Dave Butz Baby! 06-29-2004 01:25 PM

ESPN.com's 'Skins Offseason Report/Preview
 
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/features/story?page=overview/redskins2004[/url]

There it is... now discuss!

sonny-j-no9 06-29-2004 01:33 PM

[QUOTE=Dave Butz Baby!][url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/features/story?page=overview/redskins2004[/url]

There it is... now discuss![/QUOTE]

looks like they, gooned up our draft picks... I think that is the giants draft...

skins009 06-29-2004 01:46 PM

Passta belly is an idoit. He still thinks we should have taken windslow over tayler. Are you kidding me?

skinsfanthru&thru 06-29-2004 02:34 PM

[QUOTE=sonny-j-no9]looks like they, gooned up our draft picks... I think that is the giants draft...[/QUOTE]

yeah they fubbed that up

jthor99 06-29-2004 02:43 PM

i dont understand how they can say that Winslow would have been a better pick then Taylor. Winslow is a hell of a football player but, he comes with an attiude that i feel that would not mix well with the team. I think Taylor will prove this Passta Belly wrong this season.

skinsfanthru&thru 06-29-2004 02:47 PM

yeah plus he said in his writings that the h-back isn't gonna get massive numbers like winslow would want and he'd be a liability blocking. the skins made the right choice with taylor.
the other stuff in the overview seems pretty right on.

JWsleep 06-29-2004 02:49 PM

The article itself was pretty accurate. Why did they need to add that moron pastabelly into it? As ususal, he came up with some way to criticize the skins. In an article about next season's prognosis, he dwells on the draft. Hey, fatass! The draft is over! Don't you have any insight into how the skins might do WITH THE TEAM THEY ACTUALLY HAVE??? Oh, I forgot. You don't.

memphisskin 06-29-2004 03:11 PM

Pasquerelli definitely doesn't take into account the Sam Shades, Stanley Richardsons, Matt Stevens and Matt Bowens that we had to watch for way too long. No regrets, and K2 might go on to a Pro Bowl and HOF career. As good as he would have looked in that offense, I'd much rather have some defense and let Gibbs work in somebody else on offense. If the guy can win three SBs with three different QBs then he can probably plug me in the H back spot and win. It's about the team, not just the talent, love what Gibbs is bringing to us. RESPECT.

BrudLee 06-29-2004 03:36 PM

Curiously, he makes the same argument against drafting KWII I've made all along - the numbers aren't there in this offense for a TE. Unless you want to take away from the stud RB, the stud WR and the deep WR corps, you don't draft a guy who gets pissed when he doesn't get the ball.

illdefined 06-29-2004 06:43 PM

no surprises, and its consensus. only glaring missing piece...defensive line. hmm, Snyder it ain't too late to attend to that..why wait? lets hope miami is happy with Jason Taylor and let us pick up Ogunleye.

can't believe they didn't even mention Patrick Ramsey. huge oversight.

ugh what a nightmare it will be if Taylor holds out.. Gibbs's first taste of the new NFL.

overall good breakdown, with adequate worship of our highness Joe Gibbs.

Riggo44 06-29-2004 08:23 PM

[QUOTE=JWsleep]The article itself was pretty accurate. Why did they need to add that moron pastabelly into it? As ususal, he came up with some way to criticize the skins. In an article about next season's prognosis, he dwells on the draft. Hey, fatass! The draft is over! Don't you have any insight into how the skins might do WITH THE TEAM THEY ACTUALLY HAVE??? Oh, I forgot. You don't.[/QUOTE]


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SKINSnCANES 06-30-2004 12:44 AM

Hopefully Taylor is going to be great for us, but lets play devils advocate for a minute. All of you keep talking about Winslows attitude and how you dont want that, and before everyone kept saying how with the Postons wed never get him signed. Well, now lets make a few assumptions. Lets say Winslow does sign before camp, and Taylor holds out. Then doesnt that change everything. Didnt a lot of peopel say we took Winslow becuase we would be able to sign Taylor? He doesnt even have an agent yet. And Winslow doesnt complain when he doesnt get the ball, you guys should think that. The only time Winslow spoke out about wanting the ball is when teh game was on teh line he would say put the ball in my hands. He was the leader on that offense and that was his plaec to step up on 4th and long and want the ball. He had a coupel game strecth where all he did was block and didnt say anything because the team was winning.

The other point he does make, that was also made prior to the draft, is about the value of the safety position. I feel that if he was goign to make that argument he should have put more thought into it. Becuase us drafting a safety is with good logic. We are in a division with the best tight end in the league, and with one of the best scrambling QBs in the league. Plus now we have TO in our division, and Dallas has a very productive set of receivers.

This is an argument thats going to go on for years to come. If either one of them ever has a bad year they will second guess it. We did what the Eagles did a few years ago when they drafted a bunch of corners so they could beat the rams. we needed a safety to help win in our division more than a TE. Kellen might hvae been a more productive player for us but we got what we needed.

bedlamVR 06-30-2004 02:07 AM

Hate to say it also but Tatlor still doesn't have an agent could he be on his way to telling the world Football isn't what he wants to do anymore he might want to be a basket weaver in tibet or something... I dunno

skinsfanthru&thru 06-30-2004 02:35 AM

[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES] We are in a division with the best tight end in the league, and with one of the best scrambling QBs in the league. Plus now we have TO in our division, and Dallas has a very productive set of receivers.[/QUOTE]

when did tony gonzalez sign with one of our divisional foes? ;) j/k

I do agree about him being a good weapon against mcnabb when he scrambles and he will help out quite a bit against TO.

BrudLee 06-30-2004 07:29 AM

[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]And Winslow doesnt complain when he doesnt get the ball, you guys should think that. The only time Winslow spoke out about wanting the ball is when teh game was on teh line he would say put the ball in my hands. He was the leader on that offense and that was his plaec to step up on 4th and long and want the ball. He had a coupel game strecth where all he did was block and didnt say anything because the team was winning.[/QUOTE]

And that was on a team that lost [u]one[/u] game. In the NFL, a successful team can still lose five or six games and be considered the best in the league. Lots of players are great teammates when they are winning - the reality of the NFL is that you aren't going to win every game, so you'd better not rush to blame your coaches and teammates.

I don't doubt KWII is going to be a great player in this league for years - nor do I doubt it about Taylor. I know which one I wanted to be a Redskin, though - and I got my wish.


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