Grade Jason Campbell
 

vote and discuss, here are his numbers for his 7 starts this year

att: 207
comp: 110
%: 53.1
yds: 1297
TD: 10
INT: 6
rate: 76.5

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

50% is not going to get it done with the types of throws he attempts.
He throws too many grounders and has trouble on third downs.

Last night he was 16/18 at one point and made some great throws. But that was one quarter our of a few games.

I give him a D because he has missed too many simple throws and checks down too fast. and because im still mad about the game...

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

he gets an A from me because he gives us a chance to win

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

most of the throws he misses are timing throws that can easily be fixed. good poise, and moves well in the pocket. some issues with hurrying some throws( all footwork) that can easily be fixed. overall, pretty impressive for someone that has been sitting around as long as he has

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

I'm giving him a solid B.

Based on the fact he went from the #3 to the starter and had no meaningful work with the first team is really amazing considering what he accomplished in such a short period of time. The things I really like is he appeared to get more comfortable with each start, he likes to take his deep shots, and he's always cool under fire.

Just wait until he settles into this offense and develops some chemistry with his WRs, the sky's the limit for this guy.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[quote=jamf;265328]50% is not going to get it done with the types of throws he attempts.
He throws too many grounders and has trouble on third downs.

Last night he was 16/18 at one point and made some great throws. But that was one quarter our of a few games.

I give him a D because he has missed too many simple throws and checks down too fast. and because im still mad about the game...[/quote]

Pretty harsh man, for a guy making his first 7 starts what did you really expect? From your view I guess you don't see much promise in him?

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[quote=Mattyk72;265338]I'm giving him a solid B.

Based on the fact he went from the #3 to the starter and had no meaningful work with the first team is really amazing considering what he accomplished in such a short period of time. The things I really like is he appeared to get more comfortable with each start, he likes to take his deep shots, and he's always cool under fire.

Just wait until he settles into this offense and develops some chemistry with his WRs, the sky's the limit for this guy.[/quote]

Ditto, my man. Going from number three to starting is vastly different from going from number two to the starting QB.

He basically learned on the fly, and did darn good. I gave him a B.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

Missing the short throws bothers me. he short hops too many throws for a guy with a "strong arm".

I think he has a good future because he has all the intangibles.
But I'm not grading his future, I'm grading his past.
I can overlook the usuall rookie mistakes but I can't overlook his struggles on third down and his missthrows.
He really struggled with the must fundamental part of being a QB, Getting the ball to the WR.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[quote=jamf;265356]Missing the short throws bothers me. he short hops too many throws for a guy with a "strong arm".

I think he has a good future because he has all the intangibles.
But I'm not grading his future, I'm grading his past.
I can overlook the usuall rookie mistakes but I can't overlook his struggles on third down and his missthrows.
He really struggled with the must fundamental part of being a QB, Getting the ball to the WR.[/quote]

Those are all timing issues, which will be corrected with practice and experience.

Guys have practice speed and game speed, which they pointed out last night is why Campbell has such a good comfort level right now with Cooley. Cooley goes 100% in practice just like in games so the timing is already there between the two. The timing between Campbell and Moss is lacking right now and I think that's something that will be an easy fix as they work together more.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;265360]Those are all timing issues, which will be corrected with practice and experience.

Guys have practice speed and game speed, which they pointed out last night is why Campbell has such a good comfort level right now with Cooley. Cooley goes 100% in practice just like in games so the timing is already there between the two. The timing between Campbell and Moss is lacking right now and I think that's something that will be an easy fix as they work together more.[/QUOTE]

Not to take this thread off topic. But I didn't really understand that comment about Cooley last night. Because what I got out of it was that guys like El, Moss, Thrash, etc. aren't giving their all in practice. And it struck me as odd (and unfortunate) that that would be allowed to happen when there's a new QB here trying to develop a rythym with these guys.

By the way, I give Campbell a C. He's getting better though

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[quote=jamf;265356]Missing the short throws bothers me. he short hops too many throws for a guy with a "strong arm".

I think he has a good future because he has all the intangibles.
But I'm not grading his future, I'm grading his past.
I can overlook the usuall rookie mistakes but I can't overlook his struggles on third down and his missthrows.
He really struggled with the must fundamental part of being a QB, Getting the ball to the WR.[/quote]

That's a pretty harsh grading curve granted he's only been in for seven games.

Last night he out played Eli hands down. Heck, I think in the last few games, he's even had a better pctg than Phillip Rivers in San Diego. And he's thrown for a TD, in some very tight spaces, I might add, in nearly every start.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[quote=TAFKAS;265364]Not to take this thread off topic. But I didn't really understand that comment about Cooley last night. Because what I got out of it was that guys like El, Moss, Thrash, etc. aren't giving their all in practice. And it struck me as odd (and unfortunate) that that would be allowed to happen when there's a new QB here trying to develop a rythym with these guys.

By the way, I give Campbell a C. He's getting better though[/quote]

I don't think it's a negative shot at anyone, some guys just practice different than others. The comment about Cooley going full throttle is probably only half the story. Young QBs always tend to focus more on the TE, it's the safer throw and the underneath stuff is what they are more comfortable with early.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

Campbell gets a B- from me at this point.

Curve based on his youth and inexperience. If he had been starting all along making some of the mistakes he has made his grade would be around a C-.

I like the upside, I like the confidence, I like the arm strength, and the seemingly leadership abilities. Not to mention the way he steps up in the pocket.

I dont like some of the decision making, some of the accuracy issues, although I think these things can be fixed.

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

I give JC a B+. All he needs is more reps with the 1st team. He can make ALL the throws necessary to be a successful NFL QB, plus he has mobility. All in due time. He's only had 7 starts. I'm excited about next year's offense!

Re: Grade Jason Campbell
 

[quote=Mattyk72;265323]vote and discuss, here are his numbers for his 7 starts this year

att: 207
comp: 110
%: 53.1
yds: 1297
TD: 10
INT: 6
rate: 76.5[/quote]

Also:

23 rushes, 112 yards (4.89 ypc) -- know this isn't a primary stat and he's no Mike Vick, but it does give another dimension to the numbers. Note that last year Brunell had 42 rushes for 111 yards (2.64 ypc)

Projected to a full season, Jason's numbers would look like this:

ATT: 472
CMP: 251
PCT: 53.1%
YDS: 2964
TD: 22.8
INT: 13.7
(don't have a good rating calculator handy, but I assume it would remain consistent)
RSH: 52
YDS: 256

This puts him the Grossman-Rivers-McNair-Losman tier with regards to passing stats (though his % complete is down in Bruce Gradkowski territory). His rushing numbers would be on par with an Aaron Brooks or David Garrard. Again, not Vick-like (or even McNabb-like) numbers, but not a statue in the pocket either.