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Redskins_P 07-01-2004 01:03 PM

Len "Pasta Belly" Pasquarelli: Focus is on passing with more efficiency
 
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=1832562[/url]

skinsfanthru&thru 07-01-2004 03:29 PM

I'm guessing the 16th ranked qb league wide was mcnabb, but somehow he's still in one out of every 3 nfl commercials and was voted to the probowl when a player like matt hasselback should have been voted in ahead of him. I might in the minority on this, but I just don't get the mystique of a "qb" who has practically no accuracy and is virtually a running back with the capacity to throw occasionally. a lot of that is the redskin fan in me speaking, but as a fan of the nfl as a whole its not that hard to make that analysis.

Redskins_P 07-01-2004 04:26 PM

I totally agree. He's very overrated. I had him on my fantasy team last year, and I finished in last place. For some reason though he always plays well against the Skins. But then again our defense made Troy Hambrick look like a superstar.

itvnetop 07-01-2004 05:42 PM

i third the notion... it's like when you play fantasy, you get a true sense that the normal fan cannot vote for the pro bowl with any sort of knowledge.

Big C 07-01-2004 07:02 PM

as long as u dont use the rusch limbaugh reasoning behind mcnabb being overrated, im ok with it

Riggo44 07-01-2004 07:13 PM

[QUOTE=Redskins_P]I totally agree. He's very overrated. I had him on my fantasy team last year, and I finished in last place. For some reason though he always plays well against the Skins. But then again our defense made Troy Hambrick look like a superstar.[/QUOTE] :stop:

You guy's must be nuts! Mcnabb is one of the top 5 QB's in the NFL. I would take him in a heart beat over any QB on our roster!

Redskins8588 07-01-2004 07:58 PM

[QUOTE=Riggo44]:stop:

You guy's must be nuts! Mcnabb is one of the top 5 QB's in the NFL. I would take him in a heart beat over any QB on our roster![/QUOTE]

1.) Peyton Manning
2.) Brett Favre
3.) Steve McNair
4.) Daunte Coullpepper (SP)
5.) Trent Green
6.) Aaron Brooks
7.) Tom Brady

Not in any special order, but McNabb is NOT on of the top 5 or even top 7 by far...

Redskins_P 07-01-2004 08:47 PM

[QUOTE=Riggo44]:stop:

You guy's must be nuts! Mcnabb is one of the top 5 QB's in the NFL. I would take him in a heart beat over any QB on our roster![/QUOTE]



Are you serious? I would take Ramsey over Mcnabb anyday.

skinsfanthru&thru 07-01-2004 10:35 PM

[QUOTE=Riggo44]:stop:

You guy's must be nuts! Mcnabb is one of the top 5 QB's in the NFL. I would take him in a heart beat over any QB on our roster![/QUOTE]

so u want our team to lose even more than they have the past 8-9 years? almost a 5th of his total tds r on the ground and his career qb rating is only 79.3 while ramsey's coming into his 3rd year is already at 74.2 and brunnels career passer rating is 85.2.

I like redskins8588's list except brooks isn't in the top 8 and you forgot Pettington.

in my opinion the 10 best qbs at this time and their career ratings

1.) Manning=88.1
2.)Brady=85.9
3.)Pettington=95.1
4.)Culpepper=88.0
5.)Mcnair=84.1
6.)Favre=86.9
7.)Garcia=88.3
8.)Green=86.1
9.)Brunnel=85.2
10.)B.Johnson=84.1

those r all qbs I'd take over mcnabb if I needed to win one game or even the entire playoffs.

and if vick adapts to the west coast offense he'll be in this list as well and hasselback(matt) is a qb on the rise.

the thing people seem to do with mcnabb is confuse atheliticism for talent and one of these days his errent passes are going to get one of his teammates severely hurt and if he ever sustains a torn ligament, tendon, or muscle he will never be the same cuz he's shown he doesn't have the skills to be a pocket passer.

SmootSmack 07-02-2004 08:43 AM

Well is McNabb overrated or have his receivers simply sucked. Thrash is a hard worker and a good guy but by no means a no. 1 receiver. And neither are Pinkston or Mitchell. But then I guess to ask the question another way shouldn't the great quarterbacks make their receivers better?

skinsfanthru&thru 07-02-2004 09:04 AM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Well is McNabb overrated or have his receivers simply sucked. Thrash is a hard worker and a good guy but by no means a no. 1 receiver. And neither are Pinkston or Mitchell. But then I guess to ask the question another way shouldn't the great quarterbacks make their receivers better?[/QUOTE]

plus when other qbs have done crappola with practically no talent around them they are considered failures, but somehow it's different for mcnabb just cuz he can run and his teams defense has been better than other teams with crappy qbs and wrs. if the phili's didn't have the defense they've had for the past 4 or 5 years or so, the eagles' record would be vastly different. his career stats just don't match up too his praise.

memphisskin 07-02-2004 10:07 AM

[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]plus when other qbs have done crappola with practically no talent around them they are considered failures, but somehow it's different for mcnabb just cuz he can run and his teams defense has been better than other teams with crappy qbs and wrs. if the phili's didn't have the defense they've had for the past 4 or 5 years or so, the eagles' record would be vastly different. his career stats just don't match up too his praise.[/QUOTE]

Uh, last I checked they went to the NFC Championship three times in a row. You can't hold the Philly defense against him, and if the Philly wideouts were in Redskin uniforms we would have held a revolt. Thrash comes to Washington and he's the third or fourth guy, in Philly he was #1 until they brought in TO.

As a Skins fan I hate McNabb, he's averaged like 8 yds per rush on us and always seems to come up with a game breaking play against us. The guy isn't in the Pro Bowl every year because of his Chunky soup commercials, matter of fact he doesn't even get those commercials if he couldn't play. Fact is, he's only been in the league for five years so he's still got time improve.

Manning, McNair, Favre, Brady and maybe Culpepper. Pennington and Green have yet to even reach the conference championship game, and I'm going to assume that throwing Jeff Garcia in this conversation is some kind of joke.

The ultimate judgment is based on wins and losses. Laugh all you want about the Eagles losing three straight NFC championship games, meanwhile our team has a high of 8 wins during that streak. I'll also go ahead and assume that whoever said Ramsey was better than McNabb was joking as well.

Redskins_P 07-02-2004 02:40 PM

[QUOTE=memphisskin]Uh, last I checked they went to the NFC Championship three times in a row. You can't hold the Philly defense against him, and if the Philly wideouts were in Redskin uniforms we would have held a revolt. Thrash comes to Washington and he's the third or fourth guy, in Philly he was #1 until they brought in TO.

As a Skins fan I hate McNabb, he's averaged like 8 yds per rush on us and always seems to come up with a game breaking play against us. The guy isn't in the Pro Bowl every year because of his Chunky soup commercials, matter of fact he doesn't even get those commercials if he couldn't play. Fact is, he's only been in the league for five years so he's still got time improve.

Manning, McNair, Favre, Brady and maybe Culpepper. Pennington and Green have yet to even reach the conference championship game, and I'm going to assume that throwing Jeff Garcia in this conversation is some kind of joke.

The ultimate judgment is based on wins and losses. Laugh all you want about the Eagles losing three straight NFC championship games, meanwhile our team has a high of 8 wins during that streak. I'll also go ahead and assume that whoever said Ramsey was better than McNabb was joking as well.[/QUOTE]


I wrote that and I meant it. F-Mcnabb.

JWsleep 07-02-2004 02:41 PM

I agree, Memphis. Winning talks, the rest is just numbers. Mcnabb completed a crazy 4th and 26 to beat the pack, and Favre threw a crazy INT.

I'm not saying he's better than Frave, but in the last three years, he's made the hated iggles go. When he was hurt early last year, the iggles faltered. When he got healthy they won a bunch of games.

Hey, I'm all for crushing the guy, but until we do, it's just talk.


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